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    Haha getting excited bout a second half score & stat. Too bad team won jack

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    Haha getting excited bout a second half score & stat. Too bad team won jack
    You were the one that brought it up. The son?

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    This team would be playing for ping pong balls without "Aldridge ball"

    I truly can't wait for the day we get the inevitable early playoff exit that we all saw coming the minute PATFO shat the bed in the offseason and this comes in bumping his like nostradumbass talking about "I told you so"

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    This team would be playing for ping pong balls without "Aldridge ball"

    I truly can't wait for the day we get the inevitable early playoff exit that we all saw coming the minute PATFO shat the bed in the offseason and this comes in bumping his like nostradumbass talking about "I told you so"
    But but..Everything will be awesome if we win 50 games and still have made the playoffs. In Pop we trust.

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    Aldridge is having a great year and he has clearly carried this poorly designed roster, but I don't know how anybody could believe that Aldridge ball can win anything, especially in today's NBA

    Not only is his scoring style questionable, but he's also horrendous at handling double teams and swarming defense..going from Duncan, Splitter and Diaw as passing bigs to Aldridge has been one of the most painful transitions into this era of Spurs basketball..

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    Yeah I got love for our Touches and mad respect but Harlem is correct as usual. Dude is fkn terrible with the double teams. He's actually a bad passer all around imo.

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    Aldridge is having a great year and he has clearly carried this poorly designed roster, but I don't know how anybody could believe that Aldridge ball can win anything, especially in today's NBA

    Not only is his scoring style questionable, but he's also horrendous at handling double teams and swarming defense..going from Duncan, Splitter and Diaw as passing bigs to Aldridge has been one of the most painful transitions into this era of Spurs basketball..
    of course aldridge ball isn't going to win a championship

    this team is designed to win around kawhi... but given kawhi's unavailability, its the only way this team is going to win games on a consistent basis. he's holding the fort, #3 seed, etc.

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    of course aldridge ball isn't going to win a championship

    this team is designed to win around kawhi... but given kawhi's unavailability, its the only way this team is going to win games on a consistent basis. he's holding the fort, #3 seed, etc.
    And who said anything about him not being able to hold the forth during the regular season? That's obviously not the type of "winning" I was referring to, and I think I stated that pretty clearly.

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    And who said anything about him not being able to hold the forth during the regular season? That's obviously not the type of "winning" I was referring to, and I think I stated that pretty clearly.
    because this is just beating the dead horse that the spurs without their best player, and over-relying on their second best player, aren't going to win anything in the postseason

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    because this is just beating the dead horse that the spurs without their best player, and over-relying on their second best player, aren't going to win anything in the postseason
    No. My point is that if the Spurs keep feeding LA close to 30 from 40 touches on the post (which is the idea according to both Pop and LA even when Kawhi comes back) we are never going to win , even with a 100% roster.

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    No. My point is that if the Spurs keep feeding LA close to 30 from 40 touches on the post (which is the idea according to both Pop and LA even when Kawhi comes back) we are never going to win , even with a 100% roster.
    yeah and if you think there's going to be no adjustment when kawhi comes back and he's just going to assume the kyle anderson role, then maybe you have a point

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    yeah and if you think there's going to be no adjustment when kawhi comes back and he's just going to assume the kyle anderson role, then maybe you have a point
    Why make something so ridiculous up? Why can't you argue like a normal person?

    Of course Kawhi is not going to assume the Kyle role, but if you think LA's touches will decrease substantially you are mistaken. It's not like we haven't seen two players with heavy usages on the same team before.

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    Why make something so ridiculous up? Why can't you argue like a normal person?

    Of course Kawhi is not going to assume the Kyle role, but if you think LA's touches will decrease substantially you are mistaken. It's not like we haven't seen two players with heavy usages on the same team before.
    LMA's usage always goes up when kawhi is out and goes down when kawhi plays. in the 9 games that kawhi played this year, even when he was clearly physically limited, he had a usage rate of 30.8. his usage last year was 31.1

    on the other hand, in a season without kawhi, LMA's usage is up from 24.5 to 28.4 (comparing last season to this year). obviously with kawhi out the team has gone all-in on LMA. there wasn't really another choice. i really dont understand your point. you like like high usage LMA. none of us do, but thats all we have with kawhi out

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    of course aldridge ball isn't going to win a championship

    this team is designed to win around kawhi... but given kawhi's unavailability, its the only way this team is going to win games on a consistent basis. he's holding the fort, #3 seed, etc.
    I disagree, this team wins because of Kawhi's talent and spurs system, but it was not built to maximize Kawhi Leonard

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    I disagree, this team wins because of Kawhi's talent and spurs system, but it was not built to maximize Kawhi Leonard
    floor spacing bigs to give kawhi room to operate in the post (LMA, Gasol, Bertans). defensive length on the perimeter to optimize ability to switch around (Dijon, Green, Kyle, Gay)...

    of course the spurs are limited to build an ideal roster because they can't attract names like GSW or LeBron are able to, but i think they've tried

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    LMA's usage always goes up when kawhi is out and goes down when kawhi plays. in the 9 games that kawhi played this year, even when he was clearly physically limited, he had a usage rate of 30.8. his usage last year was 31.1

    on the other hand, in a season without kawhi, LMA's usage is up from 24.5 to 28.4 (comparing last season to this year). obviously with kawhi out the team has gone all-in on LMA. there wasn't really another choice. i really dont understand your point. you like like high usage LMA. none of us do, but thats all we have with kawhi out
    How many times do I need to say that this thread has nothing to do with Kawhi? It's just a comment about Aldridge's game style and the success that a team can have with him being a high usage player.

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    How many times do I need to say that this thread has nothing to do with Kawhi? It's just a comment about Aldridge's game style and the success that a team can have with him being a high usage player.
    and how many times do i have to say this is an irrelevant point since this is kawhi's team? if lebron was out for the season, would it be worthwhile for cavs fans to discuss if Love-ball is winning ball? or if curry was knocked out a couple of years ago, for warriors fans to ask if thompson ball is winning ball. its just a useless point of discussion. tbh i wonder if rocketfans in the mid 90's were wondering if cassell-ball was winning ball when olajuwon missed games

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    Points have to come from somewhere. Certaintly they're not all going to come from Kawhi, so that means you're going to see plenty of mid-range post-up fadeaway jumpers from LA, and that's not going to give you a great shot against the best teams.

    Aldridge should become a more opportunistic scorer ala Old Timmy D, but that's just not who he is.

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    Points have to come from somewhere. Certaintly they're not all going to come from Kawhi, so that means you're going to see plenty of mid-range post-up fadeaway jumpers from LA, and that's not going to give you a great shot against the best teams.

    Aldridge should become a more opportunistic scorer ala Old Timmy D, but that's just not who he is.
    and with kawhi out, there isn't much in the way of reliable creators to give LMA those opportunistic looks

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    What's really sinking the Spurs' plan is that Gasol can't score in the post. It's amazing how soft Pau is down there. Because he can't overwhelm power-forwards, it allows teams to hide guys on him. You get someone like Cousins (obviously pre-injury, though he should probably be fine in the post once he recovers) instead, and they'd crush almost every front court. Pau definitely has his pluses on offense with his passing, but there's little point in playing big when your center plays like he's five inches shorter than he is. It also doesn't help that he's shooting threes way less this year.

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    What's really sinking the Spurs' plan is that Gasol can't score in the post. It's amazing how soft Pau is down there. Because he can't overwhelm power-forwards, it allows teams to hide guys on him. You get someone like Cousins (obviously pre-injury, though he should probably be fine in the post once he recovers) instead, and they'd crush almost every front court. Pau definitely has his pluses on offense with his passing, but there's little point in playing big when your center plays like he's five inches shorter than he is. It also doesn't help that he's shooting threes way less this year.
    Agreed one thing I have observed this year is that Gasol can't post up guys anymore. He struggles to back down guys in the post and usually settles for an ugly fade away jumper. To me that's amazing since Gasol used to be a great post up player when he was with the Lakers.

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    floor spacing bigs to give kawhi room to operate in the post (LMA, Gasol, Bertans).
    Not really, only Bertans is a floor spacing big. Gasol and LMA together is just the opposite of allowing penetrations from Spurs perimeter players.

    of course the spurs are limited to build an ideal roster because they can't attract names like GSW or LeBron are able to, but i think they've tried
    Some 3-points shooters were there...Eric Gordon was available two-three seasons a go. Others too.

    Also, if they would want to build around Kawhi..I wonder where's the perimeter playmakers/shooters. This team needed it desperately but they opted to sign Pau and Mills.

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    the truly amazing thing about pau is that he opted out and we gave him 3 years. i dont understand the rationale behind any of that. were the spurs so desperate to shave a few million off their payroll for this season?

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    Not really, only Bertans is a floor spacing big. Gasol and LMA together is just the opposite of allowing penetrations from Spurs perimeter players.


    Some 3-points shooters were there...Eric Gordon was available two-three seasons a go. Others too.

    Also, if they would want to build around Kawhi..I wonder where's the perimeter playmakers/shooters. This team needed it desperately but they opted to sign Pau and Mills.
    Spurs would never have signed Eric Gordon based on the fact that he was an sshole in New Orleans and no one knew if he was injured or faking it.

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    and with kawhi out, there isn't much in the way of reliable creators to give LMA those opportunistic looks
    Completely agree. This team needs playmakers baaaadly.

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