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It wouldn't surprise me, but it would be a dumb move.
Not because Paul is anything great, but because Hilliard isn't any better. Cut Paul and sign a big.
Lowe did call it a good deal or something similar, but that's because like the rest of the media he's months and years behind on having a clue with the Spurs.
These guys all praised the Parker extension (especially Simmons) when it was obvious the Spurs would be better off letting him expire. The smart people on this board could see Parker falling apart and what a dumb deal that was. I was so thrilled at the prospect of being able to let Parker walk.
But that's how it is with those guys. They watch the Spurs, but they don't see.
It wouldn't surprise me, but it would be a dumb move.
Not because Paul is anything great, but because Hilliard isn't any better. Cut Paul and sign a big.
I agree with you, and several other perspectives you have posted... and yet we see Pop call up Hilliard from the gleague and benching let's say Kyle for him.. but he's not meantime calling a gleague big from anywhere, or calling up Costello... and he's praising Hilliard a lot too... so really I have no idea what's going on there.
I don't see them feeling any pressure getting a real rim protector. Perhaps it's bc it would mean Pau losing minutes and they don't want to do that.
good lord
Kyle has disappointed me. I loved the way he started playing in the playoffs last year. He was taking open shots. I was shocked that he started doing that in the playoffs after passing them up for most of the regular season, but he's now gone back to passing up shots.
Too many players on this team are scared to shoot. They up the offense by passing up shots and on top of that, they don't have anyone who can consistently break down the defense and get to the rim. Too many stupid passes around the perimeter to guys that won't or don't want to shoot the ball. Manu is trying to get to the rim, but they don't have much else.
The freaking offense is terrible.
spurs should be pitching la + whatever CLE wants besides kawhi for lebron.
la, murray, tony, draft picks for lebron and jr smith to make it more fair. spurs buy out jr.
He had 1 bad play... he passed up one shot that ended on a TO for him. When he passed up on that shot, he was guarded by Jerebko who is a true big close to 7 feet tall and the man was within 3 feet of him. He was passed the ball by Mills in a spot where he wasn't open and he didn't have a path to the basket, basically no lane. He was put in tough spot. He could have chucked up a contested shot that would have been a miss and the result basically the same, it would just not look as bad. He got benched for the rest of the game from that point, but in reality could have played more. He did some good things in the game... just that moment stands out. Hopefully he learns from it, better to chuck up a contested shot like a prayer than to pass up on the jumper if no one is open (and he wasn't)... it is what it is. Game wasn't lost on that play.
Considering they likely tried that for Irving, doubtful they'll be able to get LeBron with a similar package.
Lebron already said he's not waving his no trade clause so any trades involving him should be disregarded immediately.
I'm talking about the majority of the season. He's just not a willing shooter. Davis is the opposite, he shoots too many bad shots.
What does that mean? He won't accept a trade to anyone? Not even the Warriors or Rockets?
Correct. He said he'll re-evaluate his position in the offseason but his top priority is to win another NBA championship with the Cavs. He won't allow the Cavs to trade him even if they wanted to.
Last edited by Hoops Czar; 02-04-2018 at 11:04 PM.
OK, cool. Thanks for the explanation. I figured he would accept one if they traded him to a team he wanted to go to, and also if that team didn't give up many assets to get him, I thought he might be open to a trade. The Cavs are screwed. If he walks, they likely get nothing. What a terrible spot for them to be in. Losing both Kyrie and and possibly Lebron in a one year window, I don't know how far back that would put them.
you are right......The king can accept/force a trade if it's to a team he wants to go to.
Rolo available.
On the play right before the one you described, Kyle passed up an open look near the end of the shot clock and passed it off last second to someone (can't remember if it was Mills or Forbes) who basically shot up a prayer. So that play didn't register as a TO but essentially Kyle's unwillingness to shoot (on two different scenarios) led to two empty possessions.
The permanent benching I thought may have been too much.
I think that's a BIG deal right now. It's why teams like Orlando have made Gordon available. They don't want to pay the money to keep him. I believe there are a few deadline deals that can be made by a GM with a little creativity to really shake things up this year.
If I am Gilbert, I'm trading LBJ now to Phila for draft picks...and if I'm Phila I immediattely accept the trade so instantly becoming a contender. It makes sense for both teams, considering Cleveland sans LBJ (taht's gonna happen next year) is out of play offs and that Phila has the assets and just need the third star (with Embid and Simmons) to became compe or for th le...
He can't trade LBJ. He has a no trade clause that he has said he will not waive.
This is why some of us here didn't want to overpay for crappy players. How in the F did the Spurs FO screw this up? They're normally the ones that don't overspend on marginal talent.
I missed the play you mentioned. Thanks for bringing it up. I have no problem with teaching guys lessons but I think you’d have to be consistent.
I also didn’t like that he got benched in the 2nd Q after he fouled I think it was Rubio. It was his only foul on 20 minutes of play, he had picked up Rubio in transition bc Tony did not (no surprise right?), he prevented a layup and ended up uncharacteristically biting on a pump fake. Not even that much but just enough to give that foul. Meantime Pop was allowing Firbes, Dejounte, Manu, Danny, Tony, a whole lot of perimeter players to be fouling left and right without a short hook. It’s a double standard. Pop ought to be that strict with everyone else.
Sucks for the guys who are due to get paid this summer. Meantime there are so many overpriced roleplayers...
It also makes me think Spurs are keeping Mills and Gasol or at least find it very difficult to trade those contracts. It will cost picks.
Spurstalk will end up being disappointed this summer IMO.
Last edited by SAGirl; 02-05-2018 at 12:49 PM.
good question
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