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[phxspurfan]

Nando's problem wasn't hitting shots it was taking shots. His second year was just passing up shot after shot.

That’s the frustrating part. He had flaws here and has obviously worked on his game since his stint on the Spurs. He shoots it now in Euroleague. Imagine if he didn’t waste his time here and listened to the great coaching we had back then (Pop/Bud/Brett/Engelland)

[SpursforSix]

You can't just be good on the Spurs. You have to prove yourself by running through Pops mental gymnastics gauntlet: you play you don't play, you play 2 minutes and turn the ball over then you sit for 4 weeks, you play good for 3 games then sit the bench for the next two weeks, you have a great first half, then don't see a minute in the second, I pull you when I want because I just want to with your head and show you I'm the boss.

Some good players just can't handle that .

X2

This is what happens when a coach isn't flexible in how he treats players. Sometimes, you need to be flexible enough to recognize the differences in players mentalities. Sure, it'd be great if you can just turn them all into good little soldiers with an unyielding hard ass approach. But it doesn't work that way. Especially when you don't have prime Timmy, Manu, and Tony to fall back on.

[Jules_Winnfield]

my bad. spanish league mvp.

but lets look at some recent euroleague mvp's... nando de colo (), nemanja bjelica (), sergio rodriguez (), vassilis spanoulis (), juan carlos navarro

not that they're awful players... but mvp caliber? guys could barely make NBA rotations

That's just dumb and ingnorant, considering that the best Euros play in the NBA.


It's a totally different game: slow pace, no defensive 3 seconds, shorter three point line etc.. There isn't much room in the paint for drives. Ben Simmons would probably struggle and a guy, like Kelly Olynyk would be a top3 bigman in the Euroleague.


You usually need to be physically gifted, to succeed in the NBA, top tier international/euro players are either black or white bigs. It's especially hard for white euro guards, for some reason they all have some major physical flaws like strength/quickness/size (Sergio Rodriguez, Milos Teodosic, Nando de Colo, Rudy Fernandez, Vassilis Spanoulis..) or don't have the IQ/skill/ballhandling (Mario Hezonja, Tomas Satoransky,..). They're talented basketball players who are more suited for FIBA ball and are definetely not scrubs.

The only white euro guards who made nice NBA careers in the last 20 years are probably Manu Ginobili and Goran Dragic. Tony Parker and Dennis Schroder have the exact same body type as Sergio Rodriguez, but they both have/had some of dat black quickness. Sergio Rodriguez's skill + Mario Hezonja's body is an All Star.




CSKA Moscow would easily beat that garbage Suns team, especially if they play under FIBA rules. What's so special about them? They're young, no system and have a 21-year-old stat padder who plays no defense as a first option. Dimitrious Itoudis is a boss coach btw.


NBA w/o international/euro players would be boring AF.

[DAF86]

This.

I love how folks that probably have never seen a minute of euroball assert these kind of things so confidently.

Dude, you will be ashamed of yourself if you knew how ignorant you are being, tbh.

[spurraider21]

That's just dumb and ingnorant, considering that the best Euros play in the NBA.


It's a totally different game: slow pace, no defensive 3 seconds, shorter three point line etc.. There isn't much room in the paint for drives. Ben Simmons would probably struggle and a guy, like Kelly Olynyk would be a top3 bigman in the Euroleague.


You usually need to be physically gifted, to succeed in the NBA, top tier international/euro players are either black or white bigs. It's especially hard for white euro guards, for some reason they all have some major physical flaws like strength/quickness/size (Sergio Rodriguez, Milos Teodosic, Nando de Colo, Rudy Fernandez, Vassilis Spanoulis..) or don't have the IQ/skill/ballhandling (Mario Hezonja, Tomas Satoransky,..). They're talented basketball players who are more suited for FIBA ball and are definetely not scrubs.

The only white euro guards who made nice NBA careers in the last 20 years are probably Manu Ginobili and Goran Dragic. Tony Parker and Dennis Schroder have the exact same body type as Sergio Rodriguez, but they both have/had some of dat black quickness. Sergio Rodriguez's skill + Mario Hezonja's body is an All Star.




CSKA Moscow would easily beat that garbage Suns team, especially if they play under FIBA rules. What's so special about them? They're young, no system and have a 21-year-old stat padder who plays no defense as a first option. Dimitrious Itoudis is a boss coach btw.


NBA w/o international/euro players would be boring AF.

I didn’t say euro players aren’t good enough to make the nba. I’m comparing the rosters of euro teams to the roster of nba teams.

[Jules_Winnfield]

I didn’t say euro players aren’t good enough to make the nba. I’m comparing the rosters of euro teams to the roster of nba teams.

Yep, just comparing names.

[Jules_Winnfield]

...and you made fun of Euroleague MVPs based on how they did in the NBA.

[DAF86]

Yeah, that's re ed too. If a guy didn't make it in the NBA everybody assumes it was because his game wasn't good enough. As if everything in life was always so clear cut. As if weren't different factors, both in and out the court, that weigh in into that kind of stuff.

[spurraider21]

Yeah man. Nando didn’t fail the nba. The nba failed him

[DAF86]

Yeah man. Nando didn’t fail the nba. The nba failed him

No, but there are many different things that come to play when succeded or failing somewhere. Not just talent or hability.

[sananspursfan21]

I love how folks that probably have never seen a minute of euroball assert these kind of things so confidently.

Dude, you will be ashamed of yourself if you knew how ignorant you are being, tbh.

watch as much as I can here in the states. Maybe not as much as you, as I typically catch it on firstrow or whatever it gets changed to. You’re calling someone out on “ignorance” when your ignorance is in your assumptions. Pardon me for agreeing with someone...

[gospursgojas]

Nah the best Euro team is the Lithuania Big Baller Brands

[sananspursfan21]

Yeah, that's re ed too. If a guy didn't make it in the NBA everybody assumes it was because his game wasn't good enough. As if everything in life was always so clear cut. As if weren't different factors, both in and out the court, that weigh in into that kind of stuff.

Ahhhhh makes perfect sense now. You’re just mad and looking to take it out on whomever you see post something you don’t agree with. Well, have fun

[DAF86]

Ahhhhh makes perfect sense now. You’re just mad and looking to take it out on whomever you see post something you don’t agree with. Well, have fun

What?