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    And the Spurstalk Double Dumbass Award goes to...

    Blake!

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    Looks like he's just showing how jumps to conspiracy happen.

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    Looks like he's just showing how jumps to conspiracy happen.
    Lol CC

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    These s can't keep their stories straight. It's no longer Papadopoulos that kick started the investigation, it's now Brennan.

    How CIA Director John Brennan Targeted James Comey

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    Brennan has himself previously taken credit for initiating the inquiry. While on Meet the Press, Brennan suggested that the British sent their intelligence on to the FBI, in his May testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, he indicated it came from him directly.

    “I was aware,” Brennan said in May, “of intelligence and information about contacts between Russian officials and U.S. persons that raised concerns in my mind about whether or not those individuals were cooperating with the Russians, either in a witting or unwitting fashion, and it served as the basis for the FBI investigation to determine whether such collusion—cooperation occurred.”

    Brennan continued: “I wanted to make sure that every information and bit of intelligence that we had was shared with the bureau [FBI] so that they could take it. It was well beyond my mandate as director of CIA to follow on any of those leads that involved U.S. persons. But I made sure that anything that was involving U.S. persons, including anything involving the individuals involved in the Trump campaign, was shared with the bureau.”

    In other words, the FBI investigation didn’t start when the Australians, according to the Times—or the Brits, according to Brennan’s most recent version of the story—contacted the FBI after the Papadopoulos-Downer meeting. No, it started when the director of the CIA decided to start an investigation, when Brennan passed on information and intelligence to the FBI, and signaled that the bureau better act on it.

    The former CIA director has some questions to answer, then. What precisely was his role in initiating the FBI probe into the Trump team’s possible ties to Russia? Will he disclose where the intelligence actually came from? Was it volunteered by one of America’s closest allies, or did U.S. officials request to search allies’ databases for the communications of American citizens? If so, under what authority were American allies being used to help an American intelligence agency spy on a domestic political campaign?

    http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news...ed-james-comey

    rest of article worth the read

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    These s can't keep their stories straight. It's no longer Papadopoulos that kick started the investigation, it's now Brennan.

    How CIA Director John Brennan Targeted James Comey

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    Brennan has himself previously taken credit for initiating the inquiry. While on Meet the Press, Brennan suggested that the British sent their intelligence on to the FBI, in his May testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, he indicated it came from him directly.

    “I was aware,” Brennan said in May, “of intelligence and information about contacts between Russian officials and U.S. persons that raised concerns in my mind about whether or not those individuals were cooperating with the Russians, either in a witting or unwitting fashion, and it served as the basis for the FBI investigation to determine whether such collusion—cooperation occurred.”

    Brennan continued: “I wanted to make sure that every information and bit of intelligence that we had was shared with the bureau [FBI] so that they could take it. It was well beyond my mandate as director of CIA to follow on any of those leads that involved U.S. persons. But I made sure that anything that was involving U.S. persons, including anything involving the individuals involved in the Trump campaign, was shared with the bureau.”

    In other words, the FBI investigation didn’t start when the Australians, according to the Times—or the Brits, according to Brennan’s most recent version of the story—contacted the FBI after the Papadopoulos-Downer meeting. No, it started when the director of the CIA decided to start an investigation, when Brennan passed on information and intelligence to the FBI, and signaled that the bureau better act on it.

    The former CIA director has some questions to answer, then. What precisely was his role in initiating the FBI probe into the Trump team’s possible ties to Russia? Will he disclose where the intelligence actually came from? Was it volunteered by one of America’s closest allies, or did U.S. officials request to search allies’ databases for the communications of American citizens? If so, under what authority were American allies being used to help an American intelligence agency spy on a domestic political campaign?

    http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news...ed-james-comey

    rest of article worth the read
    That completely jibes with the dates I gave you yesterday.

    This stuff isn't too hard to keep track of if you're not trying to make a conspiracy out of everything you see.

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    Probably not.

    http://www.tabletmag.com/about

    TSA pushing unbiased Jewish news

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    Bush was in on it. Duh.
    i wouldn't doubt it.

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    Probably not.

    http://www.tabletmag.com/about

    TSA pushing unbiased Jewish news
    antisemitism good now

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    Probably not.

    http://www.tabletmag.com/about

    TSA pushing unbiased Jewish news
    Religion notwithstanding they're still trying to push the Obama Cinton email text conspiracy TSA recently failed with.

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    i wouldn't doubt it.
    To the surprise of no one

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    That completely jibes with the dates I gave you yesterday.

    This stuff isn't too hard to keep track of if you're not trying to make a conspiracy out of everything you see.
    Weren't you recently saying it was Papadopolous that started the investigation?

    How did the investigation start?

    Brennan
    Papadopolous
    Steele

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    Weren't you recently saying it was Papadopolous that started the investigation?
    No.

    You asked when the investigation started and I answered with the date and two links you didn't read.

    Yesterday.

    In this thread.

    Why do you demand answers and links to questions when you don't read any of them, TSA?

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    To the surprise of no one
    why do you believe he(that family) wasn't part of it? i don't trust the bush's, the clinton's, nor the obama's. they're all crooks, liars, and worse.

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    From TSA's article

    it began after a meeting between Papadopoulos and the Australian ambassador to the United Kingdom, Alexander Downer, in a London bar, back in May 2016.


    Todd asked Brennan if the intelligence on Papadopoulos came “through the C.I.A. via the Five Eyes thing,” referring to the intelligence-sharing relationship between the five English-speaking powers, the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom, Australia, and New Zealand. Brennan’s response, though, went off-script.

    He wasn’t “going to get into details about how it was acquired,” he explained. “But the F.B.I. has a very close relationship with its British counterparts. And so the F.B.I. had visibility into a number of things that were going on involving some individuals who may have had some affiliation with the Trump campaign.”

    how the is this disputing the claim that papadopolous started the investigation? the only thing brennan discussed is how they got intel regarding the papadololous meeting

    brennan was asked if the info came via the Five Eyes, including the UK, and Brennan confirmed that they have a close relationship with the british. considering this was a meeting with an ambassador to the UK, and it took place in London, i think that's a sensible thing to say

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    why do you believe he(that family) wasn't part of it?.
    Why should i?

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    you don't have to blake... i just don't see how questioning most things in this world is seen as bad. bush lied to get us into war, bush lied to get us "out" of war, bush and bush sr. lie like a mother er. that's why i don't believe anything they say nor do i put anything past them including being in on 9/11.

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    Weren't you recently saying it was Papadopolous that started the investigation?

    How did the investigation start?

    Brennan
    Papadopolous
    are these mutually exclusive?

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    No.

    You asked when the investigation started and I answered with the date and two links you didn't read.

    Yesterday.

    In this thread.

    Why do you demand answers and links to questions when you don't read any of them, TSA?
    Board Republicans might have to wait until after the holidays to be told how to react to this.
    You've got a little wiggle room

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    you don't have to blake... i just don't see how questioning most things in this world is seen as bad. bush lied to get us into war, bush lied to get us "out" of war, bush and bush sr. lie like a mother er. that's why i don't believe anything they say nor do i put anything past them including being in on 9/11.
    Whatever 9/11 questions about the incidents and people involved you have can be answered sufficiently on the internets if you really want to find out these things. I've done that.

    But you don't have to.

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    From TSA's article




    how the is this disputing the claim that papadopolous started the investigation? the only thing brennan discussed is how they got intel regarding the papadololous meeting

    brennan was asked if the info came via the Five Eyes, including the UK, and Brennan confirmed that they have a close relationship with the british. considering this was a meeting with an ambassador to the UK, and it took place in London, i think that's a sensible thing to say
    Yeah, the dates pretty much line up perfectly with the precipitating events when you allow for handoff time between all the agencies involved.

    Informal investigation of Russian interference, April 2016:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/poli...127231799.html

    Official FBI investigation into Russian interference, July 2016:

    http://www.latimes.com/politics/wash...htmlstory.html

    Now I'm waiting on your explanation how collusion isn't interference and the links for the dates you have failed to provide.
    The official investigation began after getting the Papadopolous information.

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    You've got a little wiggle room
    It's was all laid out for you yesterday.

    Your attempted conspiracy article actually confirms the real timeline.

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    From TSA's article




    how the is this disputing the claim that papadopolous started the investigation? the only thing brennan discussed is how they got intel regarding the papadololous meeting

    brennan was asked if the info came via the Five Eyes, including the UK, and Brennan confirmed that they have a close relationship with the british. considering this was a meeting with an ambassador to the UK, and it took place in London, i think that's a sensible thing to say
    Because it was reported that it was Australian officials who passed on the intel to their American counterparts, not the Brits.


    "But two months later, when leaked Democratic emails began appearing online, Australian officials passed the information about Mr. Papadopoulos to their American counterparts, according to four current and former American and foreign officials with direct knowledge of the Australians’ role.

    The hacking and the revelation that a member of the Trump campaign may have had inside information about it were driving factors that led the F.B.I. to open an investigation in July 2016 into Russia’s attempts to disrupt the election and whether any of President Trump’s associates conspired."


    So is the NYT article incorrect?

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    are these mutually exclusive?
    Brennan kept handing off the information he got from foreign services because US citizens were involved.

    As is required.

    It's so weird how we're discovering just how by the book this all went.

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    Whatever 9/11 questions about the incidents and people involved you have can be answered sufficiently on the internets if you really want to find out these things. I've done that.

    But you don't have to.
    i was told from kindergarten through high school that columbus discovered america and that native americans sat at a picnic table with the bag for thanksgiving. i don't put much trust in the powers to be to tell me the truth.

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    Brennan kept handing off the information he got from foreign services because US citizens were involved.

    As is required.

    It's so weird how we're discovering just how by the book this all went.

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