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Yes some russian contractors seem to have been killed
That plus Israeli attacks are just taking thing there a few notches
Who knows hoe many american contractors have also been killed by Syria/Turkey
MOSCOW — Four Russian nationals, and perhaps dozens more, were killed in fighting between pro-government forces in eastern Syria and members of the United States-led coalition fighting the Islamic State, according to Russian and Syrian officials.
A Syrian military officer said that about 100 Syrian soldiers had been killed in the fighting on Feb. 7 and 8, but news about Russian casualties has dribbled out only slowly, through Russian news organizations and social media.
Much about the attack and the associated casualties has been obscured in the fog of war. For reasons that remain unclear, Syrian government troops and some Russian nationals appear to have attacked a coalition position, near Al Tabiyeh, Syria.
The attack occurred in the vicinity of Deir al-Zour, a strategic, oil-rich territory that is coveted by the Syrians. Most of the fatalities were attributed to an American airstrike on enemy columns that was called in by American-backed Kurdish soldiers who believed they were under attack.
At no point, an American military spokesman said, was there any chance of direct conflict between United States and Russian forces.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/13/w...yria-dead.html
Yes some russian contractors seem to have been killed
That plus Israeli attacks are just taking thing there a few notches
Who knows hoe many american contractors have also been killed by Syria/Turkey
Russian "contractors".
"contractors" in the Ukraine all just happened to belong to the same Russian army paratroop unit, totally coincidentally.
Russian government tried to cover it up, but the coffins and burials, and weeping mothers were too hard to ignore.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26532154
Russia officially has long denied organized presence of their military units in Ukraine. Nevertheless, evidence of its soldiers' involvement is rampant.[383]
- On 25 August 2014 ten Russian paratroopers were captured in Ukraine, the Russian Ministry of Defense maintained that the men were lost and crossed the border into Ukraine by accident.[384][385]
- In May 2015 two suspected Russian GRU agents (Military intelligence) were detained by Ukrainian forces, Russia's Ministry of Defense stated the men were former soldiers who were not on active duty at the time of capture. The two men were later exchanged for captured Ukrainian pilot and politician Nadiya Savchenko[386]
- In July 2015 a Russian major was detained near Donetsk as he drove an ammunition truck into a Ukrainian checkpoint, the Russian military maintained the man was not involved with the Russian military and fought for local separatists. The major was later exchanged for captured Ukrainian soldiers.[387][388]
- In September 2015 Ukraine's border guards detained 2 Russian internal troops when they crossed the border in Ukraine's Luhansk oblast, the Russian servicemen stated they were lost and crossed the border by accident, with the Russian Military of Defense accusing Ukraine's forces of crossing into the nearby Russian village and abducting the servicemen.[389][390]
- In October 2015, Russian Ministry of Defence admitted that "special forces were pulled out of Ukraine and sent to Syria" and that they were serving in eastern Ukraine on territories held by pro-Russian rebels.[391]
- On 17 December 2015 when asked about the two detained Russian citizens in Ukraine who were being accused of being military intelligence officers President Vladimir Putin responded: "We never said there were not people there who carried out certain tasks including in the military sphere." This was generally taken as an admission that Russian military operatives were deployed to Ukraine.[392] Before that declaration there had been a large amount of cir stantial evidence that confirmed the presence of Russia's military.[35][393][394][395][396][397][398][399][400]
- Large part of the evidence are military vehicles and weapons that are unique to Russian armed forces and never present in Ukraine before the conflict. The OSCE monitoring mission has also noted the presence of troops declaring themselves as Russian servicemen in DPR-controlled territory.[401] As the rest of the post-Soviet republics every Russian military equipment has a hull number (bortovoi nomer). However equipment in possession of the LPR and DPR has all hull number painted over to conceal its relation to the Russian Armed Forces.[citation needed]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia...%80%93present)
http://www.newsweek.com/over-2000-ru...okesman-434295
Somebody goofed, and admitted that about 2000 Russian troops have died in Ukraine.
The U.S. Is Permanently Occupying Northern Syria, and That’s Trouble
How did the United States get tangled up in another Mideast quagmire?
with the Islamic State on the ropes,
the Trump Administration has announced that some 2,000 U.S. troops will stay permanently in the Kurdish region of northern Syria.
Ostensibly, the troops will fight Islamic State remnants and combat Iranian influence.
In reality, the United States seeks to remove President Bashar al Assad, or
failing that, dismember Syria into zones controlled by outside powers.
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2...-thats-trouble
Damascus warns Israel of 'more surprises' in Syria
Israel will face “more surprises” should it again attack Syrian territory, Damascus said on Tuesday,
after Syria’s air defenses shot down an advanced Israeli warplane during the fiercest flare-up between the old foes in 36 years
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-m...2F+Top+News%29
4? I read as many as 200-300
Both US and Russia have thousands of contractors in the middle East. They are there for the money. Mercenaries basicallyRussian "contractors".
"contractors" in the Ukraine all just happened to belong to the same Russian army paratroop unit, totally coincidentally.
Russian government tried to cover it up, but the coffins and burials, and weeping mothers were too hard to ignore.
Are you denying US has thousands of contactors in the middle east?
Not at all. The US contractors though are actual private citizens.
Russian "contractors" tend to be active duty military personnel, under orders from their government.
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Russian "contractors" tend to be active duty military personnel, under orders from their government.[/QUOT
US colonel on npr this morning said Russian mercenaries are paid $3k /month, many are ex-military, which is a ton of money for rural hole russians, said usa in constant deconfliction contact with Syrian and Russian military who did not object to the asskicking
tend to be. Any proof of this BS?
Regardless it was a mistake for Syria and Russian contactors to be parading through Eastern Syria knowing the terrorist can call their American airforce at will.
IMO they will learn their lesson or keep dying
Its obvious US wants to keep Eastern Syria for themselves to squeeze assad. And now Israel is coming from the West
Turkey doing their own thing in the anorth
Its a cluster so if s start dying left and right from all sides it should not come as a surprise
Right wingers are morally bankrupt, left leaning media is the only credibile media, American mercenaries are private citizens but the Russian ones are Russian military, are you noticing a pattern here? RG has zero credibility at this point, he’s is a pseudo intellectual full of himself hack. He preemptively declares victory for himself on every subject and resides in his own reality. The best way to deal with him is ignore him and let him self qauarantine. He’s like a ghost he only exists in a different dimension and you’ll only catch a glimpse of him if you focus hard enough. Just let him amuse himself and pay him no mind, he’s not an influential force.
Saddest thing is there are many thousands idiots that think just as him
Pretty sad but its the result of US propaganda brainwashing its own citizens. I still believe this will come back to bite us, all of us.
You cant keep a nation going with a population of mostly re ed brainless regurjitators
US state believes its militaristic oligarchy SYSTEM is going to keep things running but that has already been proven wrong in 2008 and will soon again
Already provided above, sporto.
The link had no proof Russian active military are also contractors Einstein
•On 25 August 2014 ten Russian paratroopers were captured in Ukraine, the Russian Ministry of Defense maintained that the men were lost and crossed the border into Ukraine by accident
I say "tend" because some are genuine mercs. Russians don't like their troops involved in foreign wars anymore than we do, less probably.
You can lie about whether they are there or not, but the bodies, graves, and mothers of the missing and dead aren't so silent.
New East network
They were never there: Russia's silence for families of troops killed in Ukraine
The Kremlin denies sending troops into the conflict in east Ukraine, but Russian relatives of those who have served and died across the border tell a different story
growing body of information about Russian soldiers killed in Ukraine has started to reveal a damning picture of Moscow’s intervention in the separatist conflict there, despite Kremlin denials of involvement.
As fighting continued to flare in the east particularly around Donetsk airport, an online organisation has catalogued more than 260 people reportedly killed in eastern Ukraine. The Open Russia organisation , started by the Kremlin critic Mikhail Khodorkovsky, has also published a map showing where the dead are from.
The official denial of Russian military participation in Ukraine has pressured the relatives of those who served and died there to keep silent, and could deprive many of them of the benefits to which they are en led. But some have started to speak out.
There is credible right leaning media.
American mercenaries are universally private citizens.
Russia uses a mix of active duty troops and mercs.
If you want to lie about what I think, you are welcome to do so in the confines of your head.
(Shrugs)The link had no proof Russian active military are also contractors Einstein
Families demand answers over deaths and disappearances of troops thought to have been fighting in neighbouring Ukraine. RFE/RL reports
In early spring, Russian president Vladimir Putin deployed soldiers without insignia into the Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea to ensure a quick annexation of the territory.
After a month of denying their existence, the Russian president acknowledged that the thousands of well-armed fighters, who had previously been referred to as “little green men”, were in fact Russian troops.
Decried in the west, Russians gave the move near unanimous support. A territory was won through military might – and an overwhelming referendum vote that has not been recognised in the west – but without a fight.
Now, as Moscow apparently reinvigorates a flailing pro-Russian separatist insurgency with a barely concealed incursion into south-eastern Ukraine, indications are that Russian military men are dying. And as captured Russian paratroopers are paraded on Ukrainian television and servicemen are buried in secrecy, some Russians are asking a seemingly simple question: “are we at war?”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ine-war-asking
tate media did not cover the funerals and independent reporters who had come to inspect the paratroopers’ gravestones were accosted by unidentified men.
“It was more like a threat than any sort of demand,” Ilya Vasyunin, a journalist for the online Russian Planet news site, told RFE/RL’s Russian Service. “They wanted to make sure we understood that there was no need to visit the cemetery or dig any deeper into the situation.”
The names on the gravestones, which showed the dates of death as 19 and 20 August, have since reportedly been removed.
Still no proof that active russian military soldiers are also mercenaries
And of course Russia has soldiers in Ukraine. Just as US soldiers have soldiers in Syria and Niger and other places in Africa. US also tries to cover the casualties of their covert operations as they tried in Niger
Can we talk about stuff we dont agree on?
yudmila Malinina’s voice trembled as she described the secret funeral she witnessed on a recent night in her small town of Sudislavsky in the Kostroma region of central Russia. At about 8pm, a truck parked at the cemetery a few yards away from her wooden house. The truck’s headlights stayed on to illuminate the ground for several men to hurriedly dig the grave, “as if they were thieves hiding something”, Luydmila says. More neighbours popped out of their windows and doors to watch and discuss the strange scene, wondering why anybody would bury a relative at this hour. Besides, that part of the graveyard was reserved for the deceased in war, as somebody pointed out.
Russian army wives have a special term for dead soldiers returning home from the front lines in zinc coffins: they are called “cargo 200” – a phrase that has echoed like a curse to a Russian ear since the days that a tide of zinc packages came in from Afghanistan during the Soviet war of 1980s. The secrecy around their husbands’ deployments “was like a trap created by a schizophrenic”, one of the Kostroma paratroopers’ wives says.
http://www.newsweek.com/2014/09/19/r...ar-269227.html“When we were on the train to Rostov last month, I had no idea we were to go to Ukraine; we all believed they brought us to a base for the usual routine exercises. If I knew it was for war, I’d have quit back in Kostroma, as I have two little children at home,” the paratrooper of the 331st regiment of Russia’s 98th Guards Airborne Division, says.
Plenty of proof that active duty troops in the Russian Army were ordered into Ukraine.Still no proof that active russian military soldiers are also mercenaries
And of course Russia has soldiers in Ukraine. Just as US soldiers have soldiers in Syria and Niger and other places in Africa. US also tries to cover the casualties of their covert operations as they tried in Niger
Can we talk about stuff we dont agree on?
I am sure it is a mix of mercs and active duty personnel in Syria, not merely one or the other. It is both.
Still no proof Russian active military are also contractors
Oh and
Johnson was hit as many as 18 times by enemy rifle and machine gun fire, likely killing him during the attack, according to the Associated Press. On Sunday, The Associated Press first reported preliminary details of the ongoing U.S. military investigation into the Niger incident.
The soldier’s remains were discovered two days after the battle in thick underbrush some distance from the site of the ambush.
Jones-Johnson told CNN she learned about the leaked results of the investigation on Facebook last night. She said the family has had her son’s autopsy since Nov. 12, but she's still seeking "the truth" from the U.S. government.
"If they would've just told us the truth behind the situation from day one, we won't even be sitting here because we would have closure and we can move on from this," Jones-Johnson said. "But there's no closure because it's like my mom always used to tell us. If you tell one lie, you have to tell so many lies to cover up that one little lie."
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