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    2 weren't related to Trump campaign. 1 was a perjury trap that will probably get dismissed/pardoned. The 4th has no criminal charges pending as of right now. 13 Russians electing to use their free speech on social media is what Robert Mueller has.

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    Russians have free speech?

    lol Chris

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    Russians have free speech?

    lol Chris
    It's really pathetic at this point. He can keep spinning all he wants. The fact remains that with each passing day, Trump has still not been cleared of any criminal wrongdoing.

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    https://www.dailywire.com/news/27248...mpaign=dwbrand

    BOMBS : Special Counsel Says No American Knowingly Involved In Russian Interference

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    https://www.dailywire.com/news/27248...mpaign=dwbrand

    BOMBS : Special Counsel Says No American Knowingly Involved In Russian Interference
    "In this indictment" . Keep grasping at straws.

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    Didn't say "In this investigation". Lordy!

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    "In this indictment" . Keep grasping at straws.

    Another strawman of trump s shot down.

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    2 weren't related to Trump campaign. 1 was a perjury trap that will probably get dismissed/pardoned. The 4th has no criminal charges pending as of right now. 13 Russians electing to use their free speech on social media is what Robert Mueller has.
    They were on the Trump campaign. Which begs the question to as why Trump would hire criminals?

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    why Trump would hire criminals?
    They are The Best People.

    Mueller is FAR from finished, so assholes saying "see, told ya, no collusion" that is no collusion YET.

    I'm betting AT VERY LEAST Trash and his mafiya were told what the Pootin was doing (Pootin wanted payback in lifting of sanctions, still does) to trash Hillary and elect Trash, but did not report the Pootin crimes to the IC, so that's knowledgeable, passive collusion.

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    They are The Best People.

    Mueller is FAR from finished, so assholes saying "see, told ya, no collusion" that is no collusion YET.

    I'm betting AT VERY LEAST Trash and his mafiya were told what the Pootin was doing (Pootin wanted payback in lifting of sanctions, still does) to trash Hillary and elect Trash, but did not report the Pootin crimes to the IC, so that's knowledgeable, passive collusion.
    They are nervous. Mueller is dropping indictments when we least expect it and somehow they think he is finished. Wishful thinking.

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    This is what Mueller did. Establish the basis that a crime relating to the election, was committed.

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    Ex-intelligence chief: Trump’s ‘indifference’ to Russian election meddling is ‘so disturbing’

    Intelligence community veteran James Clapper on Friday warned that

    President Donald
    Trump’s “singular indifference” to Russian meddling in the American election may pose more danger to the country

    than any potential collusion he had with the Kremlin.

    Discussing special counsel Robert Mueller’s indictments of more than a dozen Russian nationals and organizations on CNN,

    the former director of national intelligence said the highly-detailed report was a “compelling reinforcement” of what the intelligence community has been warning about since before Trump was even elected.


    Clapper noted that he and
    other intelligence chiefs briefed the president in January 2017 on their findings,

    but as host Anderson Cooper pointed out,

    the Justice Department and other agencies tasked with protecting America from foreign threats have not yet “manned the barricades” to prevent the same thing from happening in 2018.

    “That’s what’s so disturbing about this,” Clapper mused.

    “The threat that the Russians are posing and which they’re going to continue to pose to our basic system.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/ex-...ng-disturbing/


    duh, of course Trash/Sessions/Repugs do nothing to harden US election against foreign corruption, for the same reason Repugs refuse to help states pay for new, hardened election computer systems:

    the Repugs BENEFIT from Pootin's assistance and from Repugs' counting fraud enabled by ty, old computer systems, many sourced from Repug vendors.

    Last edited by boutons_deux; 02-17-2018 at 10:48 AM.

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    Ex-intelligence chief: Trump’s ‘indifference’ to Russian election meddling is ‘so disturbing’

    Intelligence community veteran James Clapper on Friday warned that

    President Donald
    Trump’s “singular indifference” to Russian meddling in the American election may pose more danger to the country

    than any potential collusion he had with the Kremlin.

    Discussing special counsel Robert Mueller’s indictments of more than a dozen Russian nationals and organizations on CNN,

    the former director of national intelligence said the highly-detailed report was a “compelling reinforcement” of what the intelligence community has been warning about since before Trump was even elected.


    Clapper noted that he and
    other intelligence chiefs briefed the president in January 2017 on their findings,

    but as host Anderson Cooper pointed out,

    the Justice Department and other agencies tasked with protecting America from foreign threats have not yet “manned the barricades” to prevent the same thing from happening in 2016.
    “That’s what’s so disturbing about this,” Clapper mused. “The threat that the Russians are posing and which they’re going to continue to pose to our basic system.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/ex-...ng-disturbing/


    duh, of course Trash/Sessions/Repugs do nothing to harden US election against foreign corruption, for the same reason Repugs refuse to help states pay for new, hardened election computer systems:

    the Repugs BENEFIT from Pootin's assistance and from Repugs' counting fraud enabled by ty, old computer systems

    "But Putin said he didn't do it "

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    Darrinbot angry.

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    Trump ex-aide Manafort accused of bank fraud in bail offer: do ent

    By Reuters on Sat, Feb 17th, 2018 at 10:47 am

    Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort has drawn a new accusation of bank fraud from U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller's office, according to court do ents.

    The new accusation, related to a property Manafort owns in the Washington suburb of Fairfax, Virginia,

    comes on top of the

    indictment against Manafort last October for money laundering and

    failure to register as a foreign agent.

    In a court filing amid legal wrangling over Manafort’s $10 million bail package,

    prosecutors from Mueller’s office said

    Manafort submitted false information to a bank for a mortgage on one of three properties he is now proposing to pledge as security for his release.

    “The proposed package is deficient in the government’s view,

    in light of additional criminal conduct that we have learned since the court’s initial bail determination,”

    the prosecutors said in the filing, which disputes Manafort’s latest bail offer.


    That criminal conduct includes

    a series of bank frauds and bank fraud conspiracies,

    including criminal conduct relating to the mortgage on the Fairfax property,

    which Manafort seeks to pledge.”

    https://www.politicususa.com/2018/02...iticus+USA+%29

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    Trump ex-aide Manafort accused of bank fraud in bail offer: do ent

    By Reuters on Sat, Feb 17th, 2018 at 10:47 am

    Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort has drawn a new accusation of bank fraud from U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller's office, according to court do ents.

    The new accusation, related to a property Manafort owns in the Washington suburb of Fairfax, Virginia,

    comes on top of the

    indictment against Manafort last October for money laundering and

    failure to register as a foreign agent.

    In a court filing amid legal wrangling over Manafort’s $10 million bail package,

    prosecutors from Mueller’s office said

    Manafort submitted false information to a bank for a mortgage on one of three properties he is now proposing to pledge as security for his release.

    “The proposed package is deficient in the government’s view,

    in light of additional criminal conduct that we have learned since the court’s initial bail determination,”

    the prosecutors said in the filing, which disputes Manafort’s latest bail offer.


    That criminal conduct includes

    a series of bank frauds and bank fraud conspiracies,

    including criminal conduct relating to the mortgage on the Fairfax property,

    which Manafort seeks to pledge.”

    https://www.politicususa.com/2018/02...iticus+USA+%29

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    Manafort commits financial fraud in his offer for bail to the Feds? holy


    Yeah. Gates gave up more info and manafort is looking at going to jail until his trial.

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    Trash's very own NatSec advisor

    National Security Adviser: Evidence Of Russian Election Meddling ‘Now Really Incontrovertible’

    the president’s national security adviser said that it Russia meddling was abundantly clear.

    “As you can see with the FBI indictment,

    the evidence is now really incontrovertible and available in the public domain,

    whereas in the past it was difficult to attribute for a couple of reasons,” National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster said at the Munich Security Conference on Saturday.


    He added,

    “Whereas in the past, it was difficult to attribute for a couple of reasons.

    First, technically it was difficult.

    But then also you didn’t want to divulge your intelligence capabilities.

    Now that this is in the arena of a law enforcement investigation,

    it’s going to be very apparent to everyone.”

    https://www.mediaite.com/online/national-security-adviser-evidence-of-russian-election-meddling-now-really-incontrovertible/


    Trash and his mafiya will now switch from "hoax", "witch hunting", and "Dem sour grapes after losing" to the only remaining defense of "we had no knowledge, no collusion"

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    DID RUSSIA AFFECT THE 2016 ELECTION? IT’S NOW UNDENIABLE

    The refrain has become: “There is no evidence that Russian efforts changed any votes.”

    this information makes it increasingly difficult to say that the Kremlin's effort to impact the American mind did not succeed.

    3. Who or what was the operation targeting, and what did it aim to achieve?

    The indictment mentions that the Russian accounts were meant to embed with and emulate “radical” groups.

    The content was not designed to persuade people to change their views, but to harden those views.

    Confirmation bias is powerful and commonly employed in these kinds of psychological operations (a related Soviet concept is “
    reflexive control”—applying pressure in ways to elicit a specific, known response).

    The
    intention of these campaigns was to activate—or suppress—target groups. Not to change their views, but to change their behavior.

    4. What impact did it have?

    We’re only at the beginning of having an answer to this question because we’ve only just begun to ask some of the right questions.

    But Mueller’s indictment shows that

    Russian accounts and agents accomplished more than just stoking divisions and tensions with sloppy propaganda memes.

    The messaging was more sophisticated, and some Americans took action.

    For example, the indictment recounts a number of instances where events and demonstrations were organized by Russians posing as Americans on social media.

    These accounts aimed to get people to do specific things.

    And it turns out—some people did.


    Changing or activating behavior in this way is difficult; it’s easier to create awareness of a narrative.

    Consistent exposure over a period of time has a complex impact on a person’s cognitive environment.

    If groups were activated, then certainly the narrative being pushed by the IRA penetrated people’s minds.

    And sure enough, The themes identified in the indictment were topics frequently raised during the election, and they were frequently echoed and promoted across social media and by conservative outlets.

    A key goal of these campaigns was "mainstreaming" an idea—moving it from the fringe to the mainstream and thus making it appear to be a more widely held than it actually is.


    This points to another impact that can be extracted from the indictment: It is now much more difficult to separate
    what is “Russian” or “American” information architecture in the US information environment.

    This will make it far harder to assess where stories and narratives are coming from, whether they are real or propaganda, whether they represent the views of our neighbors or not.


    This corrosive effect is real and significant.

    ...

    https://www.wired.com/story/did-russ...ow-undeniable/

    Trash won the EC with MI, OH, PA and less that 0.1% of the votes there.

    btw, 75K votes in BLACK Flint MI were not counted by MI Repugs, aka, Repug counting fraud.




    "Of the more than 120 million votes cast in the 2016 election,

    107,000 votes in three states effectively decided the election."



    Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania account for 46 electoral votes.

    This election was effectively decided by 107,000 people in these three states. Trump won the popular vote there by that combined amount.

    That amounts to 0.09 percent of all votes cast in this election.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/2016-election/swing-state-margins/

    Those 3 states, according to Silver, show significant movement to Trash after Comey's letter to Congress about mail on Huma's PC was released by ... Nunes.

    While Comey kept secret that his FBI was investigating Russian connections to Trump and his mafiya.

    ============

    Here's great article by Toobin on Comey's "October Surprise" to Repug Congress AND the Repug leaks that followed

    James Comey’s Letter and the Problem of Leaks

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-...oblem-of-leaks

    Don the Con Trash is an ILLEGITIMATE PRESIDENT




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    New White House security clearance policy could put ‘bull’s eye’ on Kushner

    White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly announced Friday that beginning next week,

    the White House will no longer allow some employees with interim security clearances access to top-secret information

    — a move that could threaten the standing of Jared Kushner, President Trump’s son-in-law.


    Kushner, a senior adviser to the president, has been able to see some of the nation’s most sensitive secrets even as his background investigation has dragged on for more than a year.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...nl_most&wpmm=1

    Way too ing LATE, you sycophantic, ass-sucking Marine PRICK. That policy should have been in place on DAY ONE of your WH CoS job in July '17.





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    Trump lawyer is super excited about Russia indictments, and also full of crap

    Daily Beast got a comment from Trump lawyer John Dowd:

    The criminal complaint, Dowd said, “speaks for itself,” adding that,

    “I think the special counsel found the culprits.

    I think he did a good job. I think he did a of a job.”

    [...] Dowd said he was confident the president would be pleased with the news.

    “I’m sure he is happy,” he said.

    “We’ve had a lot of faith in Bob Mueller and his team and

    it makes you feel good when they do a good job.

    They got these bas s who tried to hurt the country.”

    Ha ha ha ha ha.

    Which is funnier?

    The notion that yes, that’s it, all done,

    those 13 Russians were the only story and

    Mueller’s indictments of Paul Manafort and Michael Flynn are just sort of a little side note that’s not going anywhere?

    Or the

    “We’ve had a lot of faith in Bob Mueller and his team” part?

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/16/1742042/-Trump-lawyer-is-super-excited-about-Russia-indictments-and-also-full-of-crap?detail=emaildkre


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