Faking this year wouldn't make any sense with him eligible for a supermax extension. Next year after signing the extension would make more sense if he was trying to force a trade, but not this year when it could cost him a lot of money.
People overthinking it with the most wild theory that could've existed in recent NBA history..
A nagging injury that's gotten mental for a guy who has shown low-pain tolerance threshold in the past..It is as simple as that, IMO.
The roster and the desire to seek greener pastures in more favorable and familiar market place are secondary issue, at least for now..
Honestly I don't even blame the Spurs medical staff for misdiagnosis of this injury. I have a friend whose a doctor and a uncle whose a doctor so I have talked to both of them about this injury. They have both said there is not much the Spurs could have done to diagnose this injury since nothing showed up on the MRI scans. They have also said that Kawhi should have been able to play by now. Unless there is an actual ruptured tendon then there is no easy way to diagnose this injury. It sucks this injury happened to Kawhi but it's not really anybody's fault. The injury has clearly mentally shaken him and his uncle has been able to take advantage of it.
Who cares? Hes a grown man. Tell his uncle to get with the pgm or shut up
Why are people thinking this is just black and white? Again, I'm going to put on my "mostly baseless speculation" cap for a second. Kawhi could both be injured and want out. If he doesn't trust the Spurs' medical staff and think listening to him will threaten his career, it makes some sense to not play for them again. Whether that's because of issues like with Tiago and Green and Mills (and Kawhi's own history with his ankle injury) or independent of them. The Spurs don't have a tremendous track of dealing with injuries. It's probably not their faults, but I wouldn't know more than people behind the scenes would. One IT-like complication is enough to permanently tank his value. So yes, sitting out could be better for his long-term stock if doing so avoids either a major injury or an extended period of time for other teams to see he's not healthy anymore.
For folks acting like SA would instantly honor a trade request, come the on. They would only move Leonard as a last resort. If one year of Kawhi is supposedly enough for Boston to give up everything they can (it's not, but for argument's sake), then having that penultimate season to try to win with Kawhi has more value than whatever decrease of trade value they can expect (ignoring all the reasons why it'd be better to wait, as I've been saying). They wouldn't entertain trading him until he rejected a contract. He could be jumping up and down right now for a deal (funny considering the injury), and they'd still hold him, hoping against hope he comes back to the court for another dark-horse run to a le. You can always blow it up, but once you do, you can't go back.
I still think the most likely way this plays out is Kawhi signing an extension and either staying long term or being traded in 2019. Kawhi has his cake and eats it too. The team gets a chance at a le run. Kawhi's future team (if not SA) gets him on a long-term deal. Win/win/win(?) for everyone. I don't think we've seen the last of Kawhi as a Spur, but there's not much else to talk about right now other than off-season scenarios, so what can you do?
Well you can ask the "star" of the team to man up and give up the real story.
I don't think anyone but fans want him to. It does the team no favors for Kawhi to say anything.
So few of the "GMs" here seem to realize that.
I agree. The only way I'd ever trade Kawhi is right at next year's deadline if he says he is 100% leaving and Boston offers a ton of young talent and picks (I can't think of another team that could make as good of an offer, and obviously Boston only makes that offer if Kawhi agrees to extend there). Even then I'm not sure I'd do it. But if he says he's out this summer you still have at least a year and a half to hopefully beef up the roster and change his mind the same way the Lakers did with Kobe and the Cavs are trying to do with LeBron. It'll probably be fifteen or twenty years before the Spurs could draft another Kawhi.
Over thinking it
"star". Why the quotations? Are you saying he's not a star of the team? I don't think he really needs to say anything.
I think in the very least, they could sell him on a supermax extension and then a trade if he still feels like he wants to go in 2019. He gets a bunch of money locked in, even if he gets injured. SA gets another year to convince him, and they'd probably get a ton of value in a trade with Kawhi under lock and key for five more seasons after the next one. Sure, maybe he wouldn't trust SA to trade him with a long-term deal. But if the downside is to get paid a quarter-billion to play for a city where you already have a house and teammates who already know how to work with you, then it doesn't seem like a nightmare.
I wouldn't make that offer myself. The Spurs would be taking a pretty serious gamble offering Kawhi supermax given no one can figure out his injury, so I'd only offer that if he says he is signing because he is happy here and wants to stay in a Spurs uniform.
No, but there were rumors of the Lakers getting him. It was especially true when he missed the first two years by serving in the navy. At the time, it was argued that bc he sat out, he could sign with the Lakers.
If the Spurs don't think they understand his injury, they should fire their doctors immediately. Supposedly, they think he's fine or should be fine. If that's the case, then they shouldn't be worried about him legitimately behind too hurt to play long-term. If the meta-theories about that are incorrect and the Spurs do believe he's injured, then that changes a lot of scenarios, including whether to offer the supermax at all. Again, one of the posters here said he heard that doctors described Kawhi's injuries as degenerative. That's hopefully extremely untrue. But if that's the case, it's irresponsible to give him a long-term deal. There's a difference between hoping for a storm to come in to water your crops and tilling a field in the sand and hoping for it to turn into soil.
It was more like Rick Barry's wet dream. I went to greet David and his family at the airport right after either the draft or the draft lottery (I can't remember which since it was 30 years ago) and he looked pretty happy to be in San Antonio.
LMA is live atm, all star interview
Yes the Spurs are not going to trade Kawhi because he’d like one, if he does. They signed him to a $90 million deal. So far he is getting paid $2 million a game this season. They are going to want something for all this money we can be sure. Again he has nothing to gain by not playing.
i think Spurs would trade Kawhi like the Jazz traded Williams. If the writing was on the wall, you trade him while you can get max value...
Given all the injury problems this team has had for the last 20 years I don't have a lot of faith in the medical staff one way or the other.
non-contact pro basketball teams all have injuries.
Which Spurs injuries were above-NBA-avg caused by, badly treated by Spurs docs?
The Spurs have never cared about getting value in their trades. Utah got a great nominal haul for that deal, but it ended up being pretty terrible for them all things consider.
I definitely think PATFO has been low-key ty when it comes to how they handle players. But they either need to have confidence in their staff or not. No point in keeping doctors you don't trust.
I wish Holt would have gotten on his knees, pulled out his checkbook, and begged Phoenix's staff to come here after they gave Grant Hill his career back. And then Nash, damn he was a s of himself and always banged up to with the Lakers' team doctors.
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