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The Spurs just need to release some real info. If Kawhi's camp is holding back information on where he is at progression wise, get the NBA to step in and ask what is going on.
This looks like two different threads here, one about his health and one about him being traded and for what. Either way it’s bad news...extremely so. I do like the idea of getting on with it, meaning do what ya gotta do. Hayward's horrible situation comes to mind. Everyone knew he was out for the season and mentally prepared for that.
The Spurs just need to release some real info. If Kawhi's camp is holding back information on where he is at progression wise, get the NBA to step in and ask what is going on.
You people are really bored aren't you?
I never heard Woj saying Kawhi wants out.
I guess he says something like "Kawhi's rehab creating chilling effect with the team" but Woj never said Kawhi doesn't feel comfortable with the roster construction nor he wants to go to LA. That's BS, just lies.
"Months of discord centering on elements of treatment, rehabilitation and timetables for return from a right quadriceps injury have had a chilling impact on the relationship"
What Woj said is right. Of course Kawhi and Spurs medical staff have issues. At this point, after the 2nd opinions, the different approaches to the injury, the whole "summer non-treatment", it's not a secret anymore.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...oming-strained
IDK...I re-read the article. Woj never talks about a possible Kawhi's departure.
Why they would bother leaking the info to Woj?
Well, one part feels the other made a big mistake in the summer about his injury. On other hand, the team is doing damage control in public about this.
Both parts are frustrated, Kawhi is frustrated because he's having a lost season and Spurs are frustrated that he doesn't trust them after mishandeling the injury.
"Chilling impact" doesn't mean a broken relationship, right? If the Spurs offer the supermax Kawhi will sign the extension, without doubts.
After 6 season people should know that Kawhi loves stability more than anything. In his private life, in his job...
He also wants lifetime financial security. Growing up in a poor and violent place like Moreno Valley, being the younger son of a single mom, things like these made an impact on Kawhi.
But if the Spurs don't give him the max or they thought Kawhi would take a paycut in his just 2nd max contract, or his injury whatever...That's the only scenario where I can see Kawhi being traded.
Last edited by YGWHI; 02-19-2018 at 07:35 AM.
How fast people forget that Utah didn't give Hayward the max extension in 2014 then they just matched the offer he got. That's when they already lost him, not in 2017.
One of the most common reasons why teams lose their stars is when FOs are reluctant to pay big money to them. Plain and simple.
Spurs use to offer TD two contracts. One was the max. The other was less than but they would then explain what their plan was to use the cap space. TD started taking less than the max.
This is all true and well said. Jalen and SAS are the ones that said he wants out. Who knows where they got that from.
Not full-time.
He loves to train there in the summer, he loves to go to SDSU JAM -in fact this ASG weekend he was working there- but not living full time.
He wants stability and he won't find it in LA for multiple reasons.
Right.I won't ask what those family issues are, but if he were to leave, it wouldn't be for LA, right?
But I doubt Kawhi would have a word in a trade.
PG13 didn't choose OKC, Thomas didn't even want to be traded...Players without non-trade clause can't take any decision about it.
Last edited by YGWHI; 02-19-2018 at 08:23 AM.
And you know that Tim was unique, right?. Tim and Pop were like family. Kawhi had his own tragedies in his life to feel PATFO are the coach and the general maganer of a team while family is just his mom and his daughter.
That's why Jabari Young said Spurs could alienate Kawhi. He's not the best friend of Spurs FO like Tim was. He's not Tim. PATFO/Tim relationship is impossible to repeat.
For example, Kawhi has his own trainer and friends who help him in his workouts in SD. These guys have been working with him since his freshman year at SDSU, almost 8-9 years ago...But some people on Spurs' team expected they work in SA esp after Tim's retirement.
Well, they shouldn't force Kawhi to do things just because "Tim did it". Kawhi wants greatness in his own way because there was only one TIM DUNCAN, no one can be or will be like him.
Last edited by YGWHI; 02-19-2018 at 09:07 AM.
Both are ESPN b*tches. They could have heard just what Woj heard about the "chilling impact on the relationship" but they added drama "Quiet Kawhi wants leave SA...One of best NBA franchises will lose the best player...Ohh Ahh..." because their morbid and unwatcheable shows need all that BS.
Last edited by YGWHI; 02-19-2018 at 08:51 AM.
Damn we should have just tanked this year which would explain the roster moves this past off-season but for some reason Pop and the team haven't been able to execute the tank plan.
Problems always occur when family members become agents. Why? They are not professional agents and know they have this one big chance at good money--the limits of juniors career. If they can persuade a player to take a bigger offer, then they make more money during the lifetime of the contract. When a player retires or gets older or has an injury that limits or reduces his income, the family member's income is reduced. So their advice is always to get the big money while you can, bro.
Which may not be bad advice. Going to a bigger more glamorous market where name recognition builds nationally can drive income up in other ways than salary--movie deals (attack of the mute zombies), advertising name brands (if you are a name brand), accessories, businesses. How many really really fine players who stayed in small markets for most of their careers made lots of outside income.
I don't remember what the max was for TD 10+ years ago but it wasn't like TD was taking massive paycuts in his mid 20s. It wasn't until his mid 30s that he took a paycut (it was still 32% of the cap and only slightly less than what Kawhi will make this season) but he was still making relatively good money. To put it into perspective TD averaged around $10 M a season during his final 5 seasons which is about the equivalent of $17 M in the current era, just as a comparison Kawhi would make slightly less than $19 M this season.
If anything Tony and Manu are much better examples of guys who could have likely made significantly more elsewhere. I don't know if it's revisionist history or what but I don't know why anyone would expect a player in his prime to take a paycut, whether it's Hayward, Kawhi or anyone else.
I wish I could get paid millions to sit on my ass like Kawhi tbh.
So true. So damn true.
Grow to 6 foot 6 or taller, have absurdly large hands and wing span, then work your ass off for years to become a talented basketball player. Should be pretty simple, feel free to send me a check when you get it done.
Not asking anyone to buy anything.
People will believe what they want to.
I wouldn't make a thread if I didn't believe my source or if I didn't think my source was credible.
Fair enough. Just find it funny that a source would talk to a message board poster but not anyone else in the media. Just seems weird, that's all. I don't trust people online that claim they have sources after the whole Pau/T Spence situation.
Tspence is legit; I don't believe in anything until he or Wojtek reports it.
I know this may sound crazy, but there's some people here that are more than just message board posters.
Obviously. I am just saying, something that juicy would be made into a story. If someone reports it, then it will have some legs.
Wojtek! Legend!
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