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    - endorsement money would outweigh taxes
    - cost of living is pretty lol-worthy if you're making NBA max dollars
    - a lot more things to do than san antonio
    - great weather, location, oceans, etc
    - different political leaning...
    Leonard is not a guy who is going to get endorsements in LA to overtake tax loss unless his character changes.

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    The Super Max was designed to make it extremely hard for stars to leave them team that drafted and developed them.

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    Leonard is not a guy who is going to get endorsements in LA to overtake tax loss unless his character changes.
    any superstar in LA would fall backwards into massive endorsements

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    This endorsement bull ... wtf, you can only get those in LA, NY, or Miami??

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    This man is simply soft. So much for him replacing the great Duncan. Here I thought we were so lucky to have another franchise player right after Tim retired. I guess not.

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    San Antonio Spur Kawhi Leonard produces, stars in movie

    https://www.mysanantonio.com/enterta...e-11025311.php

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    This endorsement bull ... wtf, you can only get those in LA, NY, or Miami??
    or if you're lebron.

    just look at which stars get national commercials.

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    San Antonio Spur Kawhi Leonard produces, stars in movie

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    If Kawhi is starring in the movie, I hope he has mastered the 50s style dribbling and shooting to be convincing.

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    This whole situation reeks of cover up. Kawhi has been forced to be another Timmy and I believe he doesn’t care much about being “under the radar” or to continue like Timmy..... and I can see family telling him to go get his.

    unfortunately this league has become about self promotion and everyone is out to get theirs


    Go get his what?? He gets the most money from the Spurs, this makes zero sense

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    If he takes the max, how does that affect them signing him help?
    What Dre said is correct. I think it's important to note that the only way kawhi can get super-max money from a different team is if he is signed to that contract by the spurs and then traded. I don't mean like in a sign and trade situation though, I mean as in signing him and keeping him until the moratorium is lifted. In this case I believe either December or January would be the 1st eligible date he could be moved. If I were kawhi and I wanted out then I'd try and work with the spurs to make that happen.

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    What Dre said is correct. I think it's important to note that the only way kawhi can get super-max money from a different team is if he is signed to that contract by the spurs and then traded. I don't mean like in a sign and trade situation though, I mean as in signing him and keeping him until the moratorium is lifted. In this case I believe either December or January would be the 1st eligible date he could be moved. If I were kawhi and I wanted out then I'd try and work with the spurs to make that happen.
    Whyin the world would you help someone who has defrauded their contract?

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    Whyin the world would you help someone who has defrauded their contract?
    Defrauded a contract?

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    Defrauded a contract?
    He is under a contract to play with a player’s option in 19/20, Why give the supermax to someone just so they can play for someone else. Why would we give a supermax contract to someone leaving in December or January. Just trade him.

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    He is under a contract to play with a player’s option in 19/20, Why give the supermax to someone just so they can play for someone else. Why would we give a supermax contract to someone leaving in December or January. Just trade him.
    Trade deadline has passed. The ship has sailed. That was our best chance to land someone even remotely close to his value. Now we wait for another year and try to trade him next year (or worse, let him go for nothing).

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    I’m not suggesting he is being deceitful in not fulfilling his contract. I’m suggesting if a person is not fulfilling their obligations and wants to leave, that would be a supermax dealbreaker. What would the Spurs motivation be?

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    I’m not suggesting he is being deceitful in not fulfilling his contract. I’m suggesting if a person is not fulfilling their obligations and wants to leave, that would be a supermax dealbreaker. What would the Spurs motivation be?
    If they do a deal it's probably based on perception. They don't want to be seen as a FO that lets go of the only talent they have. They did the same with LMA and Gasol. They know SA is not a preferred FA destination, so they always try their best to retain talent. Problem is deciding which talent is worth paying up for (ex. Mills over Simmons).

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    Trade deadline has passed. The ship has sailed. That was our best chance to land someone even remotely close to his value. Now we wait for another year and try to trade him next year (or worse, let him go for nothing).
    Yes this year has passed. I meant if he wanted out, trade him next year for the best you can get. We are the only team that can offer him the supermax and I’d think he would need to be staying with the team to receive that. It was mentioned there would be a moratorium on trading him if he gets the supermax. I don’t know why we would offer it if he wanted to be traded.

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    If they do a deal it's probably based on perception. They don't want to be seen as a FO that lets go of the only talent they have. They did the same with LMA and Gasol. They know SA is not a preferred FA destination, so they always try their best to retain talent. Problem is deciding which talent is worth paying up for (ex. Mills over Simmons).

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    Yes this year has passed. I meant if he wanted out, trade him next year for the best you can get. We are the only team that can offer him the supermax and I’d think he would need to be staying with the team to receive that. It was mentioned there would be a moratorium on trading him if he gets the supermax. I don’t know why we would offer it if he wanted to be traded.
    Sadly next year he becomes a rental, a la Paul George. And not even as good as George, as he would be risky with that stupid injury (unless he is faking it and comes out gangbusters). Then he would be max, worth a 2nd tier star + pick, like Dame Dolla + a 2nd.

    I staill maintain if we would have traded him this year he would have fetched 2 2nd tier guys like Dame + McCollum (with a throw in from our side like a 2nd rounder or Green/Murray). Next year he's worth about half that.

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    Sadly next year he becomes a rental, a la Paul George. And not even as good as George, as he would be risky with that stupid injury (unless he is faking it and comes out gangbusters). Then he would be max, worth a 2nd tier star + pick, like Dame Dolla + a 2nd.

    I staill maintain if we would have traded him this year he would have fetched 2 2nd tier guys like Dame + McCollum (with a throw in from our side like a 2nd rounder or Green/Murray). Next year he's worth about half that.
    I get it. I’m still hoping he gets over this mysterious injury and comes back wanting to prove himself and get paid the supermax next summer. We’ve already lost quite a bit this year. I hope this nightmare doesn’t continue.

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    I get it. I’m still hoping he gets over this mysterious injury and comes back wanting to prove himself and get paid the supermax next summer. We’ve already lost quite a bit this year. I hope this nightmare doesn’t continue.
    Problem is, if he does that and gets re-injured/shut down due to pain again, it could be a sandwich. "His uncle" blaming the Spurs, for "rushing him back" etc. It could be really bad for the franchise's rep if it's mis managed. Almost not worth the risk if the Spurs slip to 6/7 spot in a month anyway.

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    The poor bas cant even wipe his own ass much less have an uncle that wants him in LA

    Fake news

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    He is under a contract to play with a player’s option in 19/20, Why give the supermax to someone just so they can play for someone else. Why would we give a supermax contract to someone leaving in December or January. Just trade him.
    We would do it to get back value. If we trade him this summer he can opt out next summer with his new team, therefore his value is based on what a team will give you knowing they could lose him after 1 year and if everyone thinks he wants to be in LA then really only one team is your trade market. If you sign him for 5 years and trade him later the team you trade with knows they control his destiny for 5 years and his value will be based on that. In the latter scenario you literally have the whole NBA as a trade possibility instead of just the Lakers. This greater market should increase the return we'd get if we move him.

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    RELAX! Some people want to cry over everything; let the story unfold properly. Some of you speak so reckless and will probably have to end up eating crow........

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    We would do it to get back value. If we trade him this summer he can opt out next summer with his new team, therefore his value is based on what a team will give you knowing they could lose him after 1 year and if everyone thinks he wants to be in LA then really only one team is your trade market. If you sign him for 5 years and trade him later the team you trade with knows they control his destiny for 5 years and his value will be based on that. In the latter scenario you literally have the whole NBA as a trade possibility instead of just the Lakers. This greater market should increase the return we'd get if we move him.
    Thanks! As phxspurfan was saying he’d be a rental. It seems like if he does sign a supermax deal with him we would want something pretty sweet before we’d let him go. It’s like Pop told LMA ‘sure get me Durant’ and no problem.

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