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    I didn't bring it lightly, tbh, the NRA pretty much single-handedly destroyed gun-violence research (you know, science, the stuff we use to solve complex problems) through the ey Amendment.

    Even ey regrets being part of that, but too late now, and it would take a fairly massive movement to bring research back in that area. Without that kind of research, offering any 'solution' is shooting in the dark (pun intended).

    You gotta look at the history of why we came to this point, otherwise, we're bound to repeat the same mistakes.
    Yeah but the CDC has an agenda. Just like climatologists. Most scientists are flaming Liberals trying to take his guns and lie about the earth's temp. Every scientist is brought up believing the Earth is round and never questioning it. A good conservative should be frightened of a globe immediately as they walk into elementary school.

    Learning about gun violence thru much better stats is the first step to taking guns so Celibate can't do battle with the Feds when that hour inevitable comes. Bundification is alive, Clive.

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    Donald Trump Jr. embraces smear campaign against students who survived Parkland massacre

    He has reportedly been advising his father on gun policy since the shooting.

    Donald Trump Jr.

    expressed his approval on Tuesday morning for a
    far-right smear campaign against students

    who survived last week’s massacre at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.

    On his Twitter account, Trump Jr.

    “liked” a story suggesting one of the surviving students, David Hogg, is “running cover” for the FBI.

    The underlying article liked by Trump Jr. is
    a cesspool of conspiracy theories, concluding that Hogg’s advocacy is

    an FBI plot “only looking to curb YOUR Cons utional rights and INCREASE their power.

    We’ve seen similar moves by them many times over.

    This is just another disgusting example of it.”

    Trump Jr. also liked a similar article on TruePundit.com.

    “The kid who has been running his mouth about how Donald Trump and the GOP are teaming to help murder high school kids by upholding the Second Amendment

    is the son of an FBI agent,”

    states the article, which does not have a byline.

    https://thinkprogress.org/donald-tru...-3ca5eb03f50c/


    Trash spawned trash.

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    Yeah but the CDC has an agenda. Just like climatologists. Most scientists are flaming Liberals trying to take his guns and lie about the earth's temp. Every scientist is brought up believing the Earth is round and never questioning it. A good conservative should be frightened of a globe immediately as they walk into elementary school.

    Learning about gun violence thru much better stats is the first step to taking guns so Celibate can't do battle with the Feds when that hour inevitable comes. Bundification is alive, Clive.
    bootlicker

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    Florida shooting: West Point admits murdered hero

    A reserves trainee who died helping other students escape a Florida school shooting has been posthumously accepted to a prestigious US military school.

    Peter Wang, 15, who was one of 17 killed in the 14 February attack, was admitted to the class of 2025 at his dream school, West Point Academy.

    He was a member of the US Army Junior Reserve Officers' Training Corps (JROTC), a school programme for potential US military officers.

    His funeral took place on Tuesday.

    The school will confer a letter of admission and honorarium tokens to his family, local West Point alumni Chad Maxey told the Sun Sentinel newspaper.

    Florida Governor Rick Scott also reportedly directed the state's National Guard to honour Peter and two other members of the JROTC at their funerals.

    FWIW.



    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43132215

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    Part and parcel of living in the United States

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    We are children. You guys are, like, the adults. Take action, work together, come over your politics, and get something done.”

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    Unless you are going to do something about gun control so no one else experiences what my school has, shut the up.

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    The Students Who Survived the Parkland, Florida, Shooting Aren’t Interested in “Thoughts and Prayers”

    "Students who survived the Parkland, Florida, shooting on Wednesday are vocalizing their grief and outrage on Twitter, where they are flatly refusing to accept the usual empty condolences, thoughts, and prayers from pundits, legislators, and Donald Trump. At least 17 people died at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School after a 19-year-old former student carrying an AR-15 opened fire outside and inside the school. The attack marks what is now the 18th school shooting in America so far in 2018—and the teens who have inherited a world in which mass shootings and their casualties have increased so dramatically, with no signs of adults doing anything about it, are refusing to be silent."

    https://www.vogue.com/article/parkla...vivors-respond

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    So co-worker comes over this afternoon with a tweet going around for a walkout at noon tomorrow at schools. Her daughter says "Noon? Sorry that's lunchtime - couldn't they have had it during class time?" Sounds like whoever planned this wasn't a student.

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    Background checks become more stringent and do that "something" people are mistaking as a quick fix solution to rectify this issue. Then a kid, whom the background checks can't do anything from preventing, takes a parent's weapon from home and this happens again, maybe few less casualties because more automatic killing machines get banned, but what happens when this happens again after the background checks and potential bans happen?

    It's foolhardy to think that background checks on adults will stem the issue of children getting access to guns and committing these crimes. A few less people die, great, but problem not solved.

    When do we start to indict ourselves as a society? These are atrocities that have increased in alarming rates the last 20-30 years. Society, regardless of anyone's particular feelings, has shifted in values and morals and because of the volume increase, it's truly, and sadly, a "sign of the times". When do we start to blame the culture and the social structure of the culture that is begetting this many mass murderers at such young ages?

    I think it naive to believe stronger background checks and banning military grade killing machines will prevent school shootings beyond decreasing the number of casualties on average. I empathize with the anger, my brother was murdered by gunfire, but the real answer is something the generation perpetrating these crimes probably isn't wired to accept and they're incapable of understanding.

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    So co-worker comes over this afternoon with a tweet going around for a walkout at noon tomorrow at schools. Her daughter says "Noon? Sorry that's lunchtime - couldn't they have had it during class time?" Sounds like whoever planned this wasn't a student.
    Conspiracy!

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    Background checks become more stringent and do that "something" people are mistaking as a quick fix solution to rectify this issue. Then a kid, whom the background checks can't do anything from preventing, takes a parent's weapon from home and this happens again, maybe few less casualties because more automatic killing machines get banned, but what happens when this happens again after the background checks and potential bans happen?

    It's foolhardy to think that background checks on adults will stem the issue of children getting access to guns and committing these crimes. A few less people die, great, but problem not solved.

    When do we start to indict ourselves as a society? These are atrocities that have increased in alarming rates the last 20-30 years. Society, regardless of anyone's particular feelings, has shifted in values and morals and because of the volume increase, it's truly, and sadly, a "sign of the times". When do we start to blame the culture and the social structure of the culture that is begetting this many mass murderers at such young ages?

    I think it naive to believe stronger background checks and banning military grade killing machines will prevent school shootings beyond decreasing the number of casualties on average. I empathize with the anger, my brother was murdered by gunfire, but the real answer is something the generation perpetrating these crimes probably isn't wired to accept and they're incapable of understanding.

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    I mean, there are plenty of reasons to believe the walkouts aren't 100% student-organized, but the fact they scheduled it during lunch period is pretty far down the list.

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    Classy tweet by one of Chris' faves.


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    Classy tweet by one of Chris' faves.

    everyone's favorite adulterer/felon

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    Background checks become more stringent and do that "something" people are mistaking as a quick fix solution to rectify this issue. Then a kid, whom the background checks can't do anything from preventing, takes a parent's weapon from home and this happens again, maybe few less casualties because more automatic killing machines get banned, but what happens when this happens again after the background checks and potential bans happen?

    It's foolhardy to think that background checks on adults will stem the issue of children getting access to guns and committing these crimes. A few less people die, great, but problem not solved.

    When do we start to indict ourselves as a society? These are atrocities that have increased in alarming rates the last 20-30 years. Society, regardless of anyone's particular feelings, has shifted in values and morals and because of the volume increase, it's truly, and sadly, a "sign of the times". When do we start to blame the culture and the social structure of the culture that is begetting this many mass murderers at such young ages?

    I think it naive to believe stronger background checks and banning military grade killing machines will prevent school shootings beyond decreasing the number of casualties on average. I empathize with the anger, my brother was murdered by gunfire, but the real answer is something the generation perpetrating these crimes probably isn't wired to accept and they're incapable of understanding.
    Yeah. Nobody wants to touch this post because you can't legislate a solution nao!

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    Thanks Creepy Uncle Joe


    Show ne the data where this is an actual cause of the alledged 98% or just climb a wall of s.

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    Show ne the data where this is an actual cause of the alledged 98% or just climb a wall of s.
    Shut up got.

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    Kinda what I thought.

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    Background checks become more stringent and do that "something" people are mistaking as a quick fix solution to rectify this issue. Then a kid, whom the background checks can't do anything from preventing, takes a parent's weapon from home and this happens again, maybe few less casualties because more automatic killing machines get banned, but what happens when this happens again after the background checks and potential bans happen?

    It's foolhardy to think that background checks on adults will stem the issue of children getting access to guns and committing these crimes. A few less people die, great, but problem not solved.

    When do we start to indict ourselves as a society? These are atrocities that have increased in alarming rates the last 20-30 years. Society, regardless of anyone's particular feelings, has shifted in values and morals and because of the volume increase, it's truly, and sadly, a "sign of the times". When do we start to blame the culture and the social structure of the culture that is begetting this many mass murderers at such young ages?

    I think it naive to believe stronger background checks and banning military grade killing machines will prevent school shootings beyond decreasing the number of casualties on average. I empathize with the anger, my brother was murdered by gunfire, but the real answer is something the generation perpetrating these crimes probably isn't wired to accept and they're incapable of understanding.
    Good post, but why is more stringent gun control (which you seem to support) mutually exclusive with "indicting society?"

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    Kinda what I thought.
    What? That you're a got? That's what I thought too. At least we can agree on that.

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    Good post, but why is more stringent gun control (which you seem to support) mutually exclusive with "indicting society?"
    I dont think that was his point. I think it's largely ineffective when its a societal issue.

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