Pop: I would be surprised if Kawhi comes back this season

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Because the Spurs aren't the kind of team to let a star player walk without getting anything back for him. But maybe he did. What do your sources say?

Lol. Is this legit, or like one of those role playing questions?

[Dre_7]

Lol. Is this legit, or like one of those role playing questions?

well everyone seems to have sources

[phxspurfan]

This is entirely possible imo.
ST Spurfan in general has diagnosed Kahwi as faking it. I don't believe he is.

If he isn't faking it -- what is he, like 25? What does that say about his prospects for a healthy, long career as an all star (which going for a SuperMax contract would imply). It's got Brandon Roy written all over it.

If he is faking it/trying to get out of town -- How will Spurs fans feel when he balls out on the Clippers next season/season after next? How will it feel to see him "miraculously healed" and dunking on people/hitting those MJ fadeaways again, as if some magic elixir of Southern California helped so much?

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well everyone seems to have sources

No doubt.

[YGWHI]

The are you talking about? Spurs dont need permission to trade Kawhi. And all reports we heard at the deadline is the spurs shut down any trade talks. So that makes no sense

Pop and RC got permission from ownership to trade. And since when have the Spurs ever spoke to the media about seeking a trade at the deadline?

Since they did it. So...your "source" told you that they tried to trade Kawhi? He was wrong? I wonder why...

League sources said their calls on Leonard were shut down before they started, so it’s not likely that San Antonio is ready to do anything drastic with Leonard.

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2018...rade-inquiries

[Spurtacular]

Was about to post this. Fire up the goddamn tank.

Time to tank. No sense in continuing the bull this season.

Begin the tank!

How does tanking to 43 wins help us?

[exstatic]

If he isn't faking it -- what is he, like 25? What does that say about his prospects for a healthy, long career as an all star (which going for a SuperMax contract would imply). It's got Brandon Roy written all over it.

If he is faking it/trying to get out of town -- How will Spurs fans feel when he balls out on the Clippers next season/season after next? How will it feel to see him "miraculously healed" and dunking on people/hitting those MJ fadeaways again, as if some magic elixir of Southern California helped so much?

I can all but guarantee that if it gets to the point of shipping him out, LA will not be the destination. They’ll get the best deal they can, and be in no mood to accommodate Kawhi and family.

[BatManu20]

I can all but guarantee that if it gets to the point of shipping him out, LA will not be the destination. They’ll get the best deal they can, and be in no mood to accommodate Kawhi and family.

Hopefully Boston, tbh. I wan't Kawhi to be a Spur for life. Worst case scenario would be Kawhi being moved. But IF it happens, I hope it's to Beantown.

[dynamodr3w]

Ok guys since I haven't posted in a while, this is what happened. Don't ask me how I know, but I do. Kawhi leonard was doing fine in his rehab, they MRI'd his knee a while back, and it was healing. The insertion of the tendon was atrophic , and they were hopeful through training and less use it would increase in size . And so it did ...after another one was done 3 months later. After his return, he started noticing sharp pains. They did an MRI with contrast this time, and was found to have microfractures at his plateau but it was minimal, they recommended microfracture surgery. He was in new york to get a second opinion, he tried to avoid surgery as much as possible, they also recommended surgery to repair his tendon aka "anchor". There ya go, stop with all the school girl . ******It's most likely he will have season ending surgery******. Oh, and if you're wondering why he was mad..its true. He felt like it was a mis diagnosis , contrast is important in MRIs.




Edited this 30 minutes later, just wanted to let you guys know I made this all up...just thought it was funny with all these people and their sources/assumptions. LOL!!!

[Ice009]

This why I think the Spurs got permission to try and seek a trade for Kawhi. They probably didn't get any offers that they liked and didn't pull the trigger. My opinion is that this has nothing to do with an injury. This is more mental than physical. That's what I understood from what I was told and from what I have have gathered with the interviews of Pop, RC, and Aldridge.

Can you elaborate? Is he scared to play in case it gets worse, or can he just not deal with any pain whatsoever?

[Spur|n|Austin]

Ok guys since I haven't posted in a while, this is what happened. Don't ask me how I know, but I do. Kawhi leonard was doing fine in his rehab, they MRI'd his knee a while back, and it was healing. The insertion of the tendon was atrophic , and they were hopeful through training and less use it would increase in size . And so it did ...after another one was done 3 months later. After his return, he started noticing sharp pains. They did an MRI with contrast this time, and was found to have microfractures at his plateau but it was minimal, they recommended microfracture surgery. He was in new york to get a second opinion, he tried to avoid surgery as much as possible, they also recommended surgery to repair his tendon aka "anchor". There ya go, stop with all the school girl . ******It's most likely he will have season ending surgery******. Oh, and if you're wondering why he was mad..its true. He felt like it was a mis diagnosis , contrast is important in MRIs.

But how’d you know that?

[NASpurs]

Ok guys since I haven't posted in a while, this is what happened. Don't ask me how I know, but I do. Kawhi leonard was doing fine in his rehab, they MRI'd his knee a while back, and it was healing. The insertion of the tendon was atrophic , and they were hopeful through training and less use it would increase in size . And so it did ...after another one was done 3 months later. After his return, he started noticing sharp pains. They did an MRI with contrast this time, and was found to have microfractures at his plateau but it was minimal, they recommended microfracture surgery. He was in new york to get a second opinion, he tried to avoid surgery as much as possible, they also recommended surgery to repair his tendon aka "anchor". There ya go, stop with all the school girl . ******It's most likely he will have season ending surgery******. Oh, and if you're wondering why he was mad..its true. He felt like it was a mis diagnosis , contrast is important in MRIs.

So if he’s going to get season-ending surgery, why does Pop leave the door open as to Kawhi possibly returning?

[MaNu4Tres]

So if he’s going to get season-ending surgery, why does Pop leave the door open as to Kawhi possibly returning?

Spurs doctors have medically cleared him. Weird indeed.

[tbdog]

Financially, this is Leonard primary thought process. Isaiah Thomas is looking at a mid level when before it was a mac because he played injured. Derrick Rose came back when the bulls cleared him, even though he said he wasn't ready.

[dynamodr3w]

So if he’s going to get season-ending surgery, why does Pop leave the door open as to Kawhi possibly returning?

Because pop really doesn't know. It's a waiting game....He's already mentioned he was surprised his rehab was slower, then they discovered minor micro-fractures which can linger on...worsen if not repaired. He wanted to wing it in hoping it would heal which was a possibility, but given the sport hes in..unlikely.

[dynamodr3w]

Spurs doctors have medically cleared him. Weird indeed.

they medically cleared him back when he returned, now its a matter of pain tolerance, if it heals... or not - surgery.

[lmbebo]

Ok guys since I haven't posted in a while, this is what happened. Don't ask me how I know, but I do. Kawhi leonard was doing fine in his rehab, they MRI'd his knee a while back, and it was healing. The insertion of the tendon was atrophic , and they were hopeful through training and less use it would increase in size . And so it did ...after another one was done 3 months later. After his return, he started noticing sharp pains. They did an MRI with contrast this time, and was found to have microfractures at his plateau but it was minimal, they recommended microfracture surgery. He was in new york to get a second opinion, he tried to avoid surgery as much as possible, they also recommended surgery to repair his tendon aka "anchor". There ya go, stop with all the school girl . ******It's most likely he will have season ending surgery******. Oh, and if you're wondering why he was mad..its true. He felt like it was a mis diagnosis , contrast is important in MRIs.

Contrast has its uses, but the things you listed, it doesn't make a difference in making those diagnosis.

I'm not the one who read the MRI or know what the surgeon would have advised treatment options. But surgery isn't always the best option. If they body can repair/heal itself, then better at returning to its baseline. If conservative treatment has failed, then maybe you start talking about alternatives. You can feel mismanaged, but doesn't mean you are. Sometimes surgery is the best option, repairing a bone, etc. Cartilage injuries and soft tissue injuries are different.

[Ice009]

Ok guys since I haven't posted in a while, this is what happened. Don't ask me how I know, but I do. Kawhi leonard was doing fine in his rehab, they MRI'd his knee a while back, and it was healing. The insertion of the tendon was atrophic , and they were hopeful through training and less use it would increase in size . And so it did ...after another one was done 3 months later. After his return, he started noticing sharp pains. They did an MRI with contrast this time, and was found to have microfractures at his plateau but it was minimal, they recommended microfracture surgery. He was in new york to get a second opinion, he tried to avoid surgery as much as possible, they also recommended surgery to repair his tendon aka "anchor". There ya go, stop with all the school girl . ******It's most likely he will have season ending surgery******. Oh, and if you're wondering why he was mad..its true. He felt like it was a mis diagnosis , contrast is important in MRIs.

If true, this sounds bad. Is microfracture surgery more advanced these days? I remember when players got this on their knee/s back in the day, most of them never came back the same. Is microfracture surgery only for knees, or can you do it in other areas?

[dynamodr3w]

Contrast has its uses, but the things you listed, it doesn't make a difference in making those diagnosis.

I'm not the one who read the MRI or know what the surgeon would have advised treatment options. But surgery isn't always the best option. If they body can repair/heal itself, then better at returning to its baseline. If conservative treatment has failed, then maybe you start talking about alternatives. You can feel mismanaged, but doesn't mean you are. Sometimes surgery is the best option, repairing a bone, etc. Cartilage injuries and soft tissue injuries are different.

Without contrast blood doesn't typically light up, or metabolic activity. Microfractures can be missed w/o contrast.

[tbdog]

So you think Fergie was a wise choice?

It's an anthem, not a God damn song. It represents the country, past and present, those who died defending their flag, and those who did their best to make the country better. Fergie treated it as a self promotion. It represents America today. One big entertaining show.

[NASpurs]

Spurs doctors have medically cleared him. Weird indeed.

The guy keeps using “they” but doesn’t specify. Seems like the first “they” were the Spurs doctors and now the same “they“ are saying that he needs surgery when it’s been said that he’s been cleared by Spurs doctors. Something doesn’t add up.

[dynamodr3w]

The guy keeps using “they” but doesn’t specify. Seems like the first “they” were the Spurs doctors and now the same “they“ are saying that he needs surgery when it’s been said that he’s been cleared by Spurs doctors. Something doesn’t add up.

You're right..i made the whole up!!! had you guys fooled though. hahahaha ..laugh for the night. Hey ya never know
Now we can go back to saying they hate eachother now! lol

[NASpurs]

You're right..i made the whole up!!! had you guys fooled though. hahahaha ..laugh for the night. Hey ya never know
Now we can go back to saying they hate eachother now! lol

too many holes man but you had me going for a sec since everyone has a source on here.

[ElNono]

This site always broke news way before that clown McDonald, tbh... Wojbomb too... talk about a cushy job...

[dynamodr3w]

too many holes man but you had me going for a sec since everyone has a source on here.

that was the whole point.....everyone assuming they know whats going on. lol. I made it pretty convincing though hahaha