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    It's pretty expected from this judge TBH.

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    It's pretty expected from this judge TBH.
    It's pretty much expected that the one and only Trump official who was ensnared (perjury trap) is either going to get a dismissal or a pardon. IE: Not in "major trouble" and "Russia collusion" was a big okey-doke and we told from the start that it was. Pretty much expected.

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    tick tock

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    It's pretty much expected that the one and only Trump official who was ensnared (perjury trap) is either going to get a dismissal or a pardon. IE: Not in "major trouble" and "Russia collusion" was a big okey-doke and we told from the start that it was. Pretty much expected.
    No.

    Republican fantasizing and wishcasting over "a generic, boilerplate [order] you could file in any case” is pretty much expected.

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    More than that got.
    OOOO, 5 total indictments. Two are somewhat relevant, but still no "boom".


    I get it, I get the "us vs. them" and it being tied to your psyche. I'm hoping there's a "boom". I want him out if they can prove he did something that awful and unlawful. Right now, we're settling for the Leftist equivalent of the Nunes memo.

    You can use your smilies, you can namecall and basically be the more re ed version of dJohn, but overselling stuff doesn't increase the actual impact of the nothingness going on.

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    OOOO, 5 total indictments. Two are somewhat relevant, but still no "boom".


    I get it, I get the "us vs. them" and it being tied to your psyche. I'm hoping there's a "boom". I want him out if they can prove he did something that awful and unlawful. Right now, we're settling for the Leftist equivalent of the Nunes memo.

    You can use your smilies, you can namecall and basically be the more re ed version of dJohn, but overselling stuff doesn't increase the actual impact of the nothingness going on.
    So you moved from no booms to a couple booms to somewhat decent booms.

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    !!!!!!!!...

    Speaking of Booms.

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    oh my

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    So you moved from no booms to a couple booms to somewhat decent booms.
    How about no booms? Small potatoes is small potatoes. Get Trump or show actual collusion. That's what this investigation is doing and this is what everyone playing the "blue vs red" game has their hopes tied to.

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    How about no booms? Small potatoes is small potatoes. Get Trump or show actual collusion. That's what this investigation is doing and this is what everyone playing the "blue vs red" game has their hopes tied to.
    Nothingburger to Trump or no potatoes.

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    Total proof it's connected to the Clintons!

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    Nothingburger to Trump or no potatoes.
    Oh, ok.

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    Total proof it's connected to the Clintons!
    It bears noting that Bradley P. Moss doesn't know what the he is talking about



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    Where are all these repug booms by the way. I might have missed some.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWIo4m-UMAEwsOS.jpg:large

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    It bears noting that Bradley P. Moss doesn't know what the he is talking about



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    Still, not a boom. It's long established djohn is re ed and relies on tweets to form opinions. Pav is an ok dude, he does break out his goods in small doses time to time.

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    It bears noting that Bradley P. Moss doesn't know what the he is talking about



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    You should keep reading. Indictments tend to be more than one page.

    Let us know where you want to move the goalposts after that.

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    Hilarious that they are pushing Manafort doing 80 years vs. giving up Trump (pee pee tape etc..)

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    You should keep reading. Indictments tend to be more than one page.

    Let us know where you want to move the goalposts after that.
    The previous legwork by the FBI and Treasury Department's financial crimes unit "explains how the special counsel was able to swiftly bring charges against Manafort for complex financial crimes dating as far back as 2008," BuzzFeed says, "and it shows that Mueller could still wield immense leverage as he seeks to compel Manafort to cooperate in the ongoing investigation," as erstwhile partner Rick Gates appears to be doing. The FBI interviewed Manafort in 2014, but Justice Department leaders reportedly decided Manafort's apparent financial fraud was small potatoes compared with that of his longtime client Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych. "We had him in 2014," one former official said of Manafort. "In hindsight, we could have nailed him then."

    From 2004 and 2014, eight banks filed 23 "su ious activity reports" on accounts controlled by Manafort, and among those not included in Mueller's indictment are $5 million to and from Puerto Rican firm Maho Films Investment Co., where Manafort was one of two directors, and several smaller transactions that fraud investigators suspected might be pitched to avoid automatic fraud alerts, including two back-to-back $7,500 ATM withdrawals and an odd spending spree at a drug store: Officials at Wachovia "flagged $25,000 in 'fraudulent charges' at Duane Reade stores in New York City in September 2007," BuzzFeed reports. "Bank officials said the debit card was in Manafort's possession during that time."

    http://theweek.com/speedreads/756287...t-transactions

    Why didn't Holder get Manafort in 2014? Do you think it was because he was working with Skadden Arps and the Podesta Group?

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    The previous legwork by the FBI and Treasury Department's financial crimes unit "explains how the special counsel was able to swiftly bring charges against Manafort for complex financial crimes dating as far back as 2008," BuzzFeed says, "and it shows that Mueller could still wield immense leverage as he seeks to compel Manafort to cooperate in the ongoing investigation," as erstwhile partner Rick Gates appears to be doing. The FBI interviewed Manafort in 2014, but Justice Department leaders reportedly decided Manafort's apparent financial fraud was small potatoes compared with that of his longtime client Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych. "We had him in 2014," one former official said of Manafort. "In hindsight, we could have nailed him then."

    From 2004 and 2014, eight banks filed 23 "su ious activity reports" on accounts controlled by Manafort, and among those not included in Mueller's indictment are $5 million to and from Puerto Rican firm Maho Films Investment Co., where Manafort was one of two directors, and several smaller transactions that fraud investigators suspected might be pitched to avoid automatic fraud alerts, including two back-to-back $7,500 ATM withdrawals and an odd spending spree at a drug store: Officials at Wachovia "flagged $25,000 in 'fraudulent charges' at Duane Reade stores in New York City in September 2007," BuzzFeed reports. "Bank officials said the debit card was in Manafort's possession during that time."

    http://theweek.com/speedreads/756287...t-transactions

    Why didn't Holder get Manafort in 2014? Do you think it was because he was working with Skadden Arps and the Podesta Group?
    Another conspiracy!

    OK, I think they did it all to set Trump up.

    Somehow.

    Did you ever get past indictment #5?

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    Another conspiracy!

    OK, I think they did it all to set Trump up.

    Somehow.

    Did you ever get past indictment #5?
    You got me. I missed that Manafort was using one of the rental properties through at least August 2017 as an income-generating rental property, charging thousands of dollars a week on Airbnb

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    You got me. I missed that Manafort was using one of the rental properties through at least August 2017 as an income-generating rental property, charging thousands of dollars a week on Airbnb
    Did you read all thirty-two (32) indictments?

    How many overlap with Manafort's and/or Gate's times in the Trump campaign and transition?

    Give a total number.

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