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    You still haven't answer my question from a few days ago. Where in these indictments does it mention anything Clinton? I know you posted a twitter thread but let's go with actual facts that connect.
    I never said the indictments mentioned the Clintons, but we can discuss the actual facts that connect to the Clintons.

    Manafort/Gates indicted for work in Ukraine
    Manafort/Gates lobbied for Yanukovych in Ukraine.
    The Podesta Group was working with Manafort on this as well. Tony shut down the Podesta Group on the day Manafort was charged.
    Yanukovych hired Skadden Arps to write a report on the prosecution of Tymoshenko in 2012
    Van der Zwaan involved in producing report
    Greg Craig and Clifford Sloan were partners at Skadden Arps
    Greg Craig was the White House counsel to Barack Obama. He was also the assistant to President Clinton and special counsel in the White House.
    Clifford Sloan was Associate White House Counsel to President Bill Clinton. At the same time as Greg Craig.
    Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State from 2009-2013.


    Why would the Clinton's want Yanukovych to stay in power?
    Why would Clinton allies be commissioned to produce a report clearing Yanukovych?

    The Clintons were being paid millions by one of Yanukovych's billionaire backers at the time, Victor Pinchuk.
    From 2009-2013 the Clinton Foundation received 8.6 million dollars from Victor Pinchuk. He also pledged 29 million dollars over 5 years to the Clinton Global Initiative.
    Pinchuk lobbied Clinton on behalf of Yanukovych
    https://foia.state.gov/searchapp/DOC.../C05783797.pdf
    Clinton denied ever meeting Pinchuk. In her last year as SOS Clinton invited Pinchuk to dinner at her home.
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/em...rticle/2600040

    Are those enough actual facts to convince you that the indictments of Manafort, Gates, and Van der Zwaan for their work in Ukraine are connected to the Clintons?

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    I never said the indictments mentioned the Clintons, but we can discuss the actual facts that connect to the Clintons.

    Manafort/Gates indicted for work in Ukraine
    Manafort/Gates lobbied for Yanukovych in Ukraine.
    The Podesta Group was working with Manafort on this as well. Tony shut down the Podesta Group on the day Manafort was charged.
    Yanukovych hired Skadden Arps to write a report on the prosecution of Tymoshenko in 2012
    Van der Zwaan involved in producing report
    Greg Craig and Clifford Sloan were partners at Skadden Arps
    Greg Craig was the White House counsel to Barack Obama. He was also the assistant to President Clinton and special counsel in the White House.
    Clifford Sloan was Associate White House Counsel to President Bill Clinton. At the same time as Greg Craig.
    Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State from 2009-2013.


    Why would the Clinton's want Yanukovych to stay in power?
    Why would Clinton allies be commissioned to produce a report clearing Yanukovych?

    The Clintons were being paid millions by one of Yanukovych's billionaire backers at the time, Victor Pinchuk.
    From 2009-2013 the Clinton Foundation received 8.6 million dollars from Victor Pinchuk. He also pledged 29 million dollars over 5 years to the Clinton Global Initiative.
    Pinchuk lobbied Clinton on behalf of Yanukovych
    https://foia.state.gov/searchapp/DOC.../C05783797.pdf
    Clinton denied ever meeting Pinchuk. In her last year as SOS Clinton invited Pinchuk to dinner at her home.
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/em...rticle/2600040

    Are those enough actual facts to convince you that the indictments of Manafort, Gates, and Van der Zwaan for their work in Ukraine are connected to the Clintons?
    OK, from your study of the indictment and the connections, what charges will Mueller bring against the Clintons?

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    Gates is surely singing, but it has nothing to do with Trump. Expect to see Tony Podesta's name in the news soon.

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    Michael Caputo's tweets from the last day or so are TSA-level banderas.gif:

    https://twitter.com/MichaelRCaputo

    Would it just be easier for him to delete his account now or get an assistant to scrub all the Gates deal denial tweets?
    They can take our tweets, but they can never take... OUR PIZZZZAAAAA!!!!!

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    Gates is surely singing, but it has nothing to do with Trump. Expect to see Tony Podesta's name in the news soon.
    In the news or in blogs and tweets?

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    Gates is surely singing, but it has nothing to do with Trump. Expect to see Tony Podesta's name in the news soon.
    Prisoner's dilemma.

    Gates testified first. Now Manafort's cheese is in the wind...

    Tell me again, Manafort was the campaign director for what campaign again? Clinton... or....?

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    Gates is surely singing, but it has nothing to do with Trump. Expect to see Tony Podesta's name in the news soon.
    why? did he buy more art? was he ID'd in a police sketch?

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    TSA will not be taking questions today.

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    Prisoner's dilemma.

    Gates testified first. Now Manafort's cheese is in the wind...

    Tell me again, Manafort was the campaign director for what campaign again? Clinton... or....?
    Was Manafort indicted for his work on Trump’s campaign or his work in Ukraine with the Podesta Group?

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    Clintons, ..Clintons.
    Podesta ..Podesta
    Obama. Clinton
    Clinton. Clinton

    Clinton's

    Clinton

    Clintons Clinton Clinton
    Clinton
    Clinton Clinton
    -clinton-

    Clintons?
    :ROFL

    It's like a version of Terettes with you.

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    Manafort is still saying he maintain his innocence.

    He's either really innocent or crazy. He's about to go to jail for basically life and he's still acting like the gig is not up.

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    damn. now they're going to need a conspiracy to have the Gates plea reversed too

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    Mueller doing his usual Friday news dump

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    Was Manafort indicted for his work on Trump’s campaign or his work in Ukraine with the Podesta Group?
    Neither.

    He was indicted for money laundering, tax and bank fraud, on his own.

    It is funny you are so blind as to what is going on. It is an odd delusion.

    You have a $1000 you want to feed your delusion? I think I am ready to bet.

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    Manafort is still saying he maintain his innocence.

    He's either really innocent or crazy. He's about to go to jail for basically life and he's still acting like the gig is not up.
    Ukranians want Manafort dead. If he sings, Putin will want him dead.

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    Neither.

    He was indicted for money laundering, tax and bank fraud, on his own.

    It is funny you are so blind as to what is going on. It is an odd delusion.

    You have a $1000 you want to feed your delusion? I think I am ready to bet.
    I only do one bet per investigation and djohn and I already have a $500 bet going, sorry. You had your chance to take my bet weeks ago.

    Manafort and Gates were laundering the millions of dollars they made acting as unregistered agents of a foreign government

    Literally in the introduction...

    1. Defendants Paul J. Manafort Jr and Richard W. Gates III served for years as political consultants and lobbyists. Between at least 2006 and 2015, Manafort and Gates acted as unregistered agents of a foreign government and foreign political parties. Specifically, the represented the Government of Ukraine, the President of Ukraine (Victor Yanukovych, who was President from 2010 to 2014), the Party of Regions (a Ukranian political party led by Yanukovych), and the Opposition Bloc (a successor to the Party of Regions after Yanukovych fled to Russia).

    2. Manafort and Gates generated tens of millions of dollars in income as a result of their Ukraine work. From approximately 2006 through the present, Manafort and Gates engaged in a scheme to hide income from the United States authorities, while enjoying the use of the money.

    https://assets.do entcloud.org/doc...tment-EDVA.pdf

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    :ROFL

    It's like a version of Terettes with you.
    Do you dispute anything I wrote yes or no?

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    What is Terettes?

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    I only do one bet per investigation and djohn and I already have a $500 bet going, sorry. You had your chance to take my bet weeks ago.

    Manafort and Gates were laundering the millions of dollars they made acting as unregistered agents of a foreign government

    Literally in the introduction...

    1. Defendants Paul J. Manafort Jr and Richard W. Gates III served for years as political consultants and lobbyists. Between at least 2006 and 2015, Manafort and Gates acted as unregistered agents of a foreign government and foreign political parties. Specifically, the represented the Government of Ukraine, the President of Ukraine (Victor Yanukovych, who was President from 2010 to 2014), the Party of Regions (a Ukranian political party led by Yanukovych), and the Opposition Bloc (a successor to the Party of Regions after Yanukovych fled to Russia).

    2. Manafort and Gates generated tens of millions of dollars in income as a result of their Ukraine work. From approximately 2006 through the present, Manafort and Gates engaged in a scheme to hide income from the United States authorities, while enjoying the use of the money.

    https://assets.do entcloud.org/doc...tment-EDVA.pdf
    OK, from your study of the indictment and the connections, what charges will Mueller bring against the Clintons?

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    OK, from your study of the indictment and the connections, what charges will Mueller bring against the Clintons?
    I don't know.

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    I don't know.
    What possible charges against the Clintons are you thinking could arise from these indictments?

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    What possible charges against the Clintons are you thinking could arise from these indictments?
    I don't know.

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    I don't know.
    So really your *ding*ing these indictments is just knee-jerk innuendobot behavior.

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