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    You still have to have a model.

    My wet finger tip used as a probe does not "see" ~79% N2 20% O2 moving and hitting itself and other things.
    And we turn almost everything visual. How does the information from the instrument display itself, in Braille?
    Wind can be directly experienced. You don't need to model it. An instrument isn't a model, it's a measuring device.

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    sex... vagina & penis.
    gender... male & female.

    vagina = female
    penis = male

    female > male.... no penis != male.
    male > female... no uterus != female.

    now tell me how men can get breast implants, tell me about all the progressive steps the medical field has taken, etc... and then tell me again what each of these cases were born as and there's your answer.
    vagina isn't a sex. penis isn't a sex. those are sex organs.

    the male sex is a different thing than the male gender. the female sex is a different thing than the female gender

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    no

    you dont know the difference between gender and sex. join koriwhat
    Definition of gender
    1 a : a subclass within a grammatical class (such as noun, pronoun, adjective, or verb) of a language that is partly arbitrary but also partly based on distinguishable characteristics (such as shape, social rank, manner of existence, or sex) and that determines agreement with and selection of other words or grammatical forms
    b : membership of a word or a grammatical form in such a subclass
    c : an inflectional form (see inflection 3a) showing membership in such a subclass
    2 a : sex the feminine gender
    b : the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex

    Your generation didn't invent the word just like they didn't invent the rainbow.

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    Definition of gender
    1 a : a subclass within a grammatical class (such as noun, pronoun, adjective, or verb) of a language that is partly arbitrary but also partly based on distinguishable characteristics (such as shape, social rank, manner of existence, or sex) and that determines agreement with and selection of other words or grammatical forms
    b : membership of a word or a grammatical form in such a subclass
    c : an inflectional form (see inflection 3a) showing membership in such a subclass
    2 a : sex the feminine gender
    b : the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex

    Your generation didn't invent the word just like they didn't invent the rainbow.
    there

    you can sit there and cherry pick dictionary definitions of a scientific/psychological term... or you can look at what, say, the World Health Organization defines gender as... https://web.archive.org/web/20170130...atisgender/en/

    "Sex" refers to the biological and physiological characteristics that define men and women."Gender" refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviours, activities, and attributes that a given society considers appropriate for men and women.

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    vagina isn't a sex. penis isn't a sex. those are sex organs.

    the male sex is a different thing than the male gender. the female sex is a different thing than the female gender
    You're confusing gender role for gender. Not the same thing.

    From Wiki: Depending on the context, these characteristics may include biological sex (i.e., the state of being male, female, or an intersex variation), sex-based social structures (i.e., gender roles), or gender iden y.

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    So you choose to describe it differently. That doesn't make you right.

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    or the american psychological society

    https://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resource...efinitions.pdf

    Gender refers to the at udes,feelings, and behaviors that a givenculture associates with a person’sbiological sex. Behavior that iscompatible with cultural expectationsis referred to as gender-normative;behaviors that are viewed asincompatible with these expectationscons ute gender non-conformity.

    Gender refers to the at udes, feelingsand behaviors that a given cultureassociates with a person's biologicalsex. Behavior that is compatible withcultural expectations is referred to asgender‐normative; behaviors that areviewed as incompatible with theseexpectations cons ute gender non‐conformity (APA, 2012).

    Gender (n): the condition ofbeing male, female, or neuter. Ina human context, the distinctionbetween gender and SEX reflectsthe usage of these terms: Sexusually refers to the biologicalaspects of maleness orfemaleness, whereas genderimplies the psychological,behavioral, social, and culturalaspects of being male or female(i.e., masculinity or femininity.)

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    So you choose to describe it differently. That doesn't make you right.
    no, in the context of transgender people in the US, people aren't seeing their penises literally transform into vaginas.

    this entire discussion is about the person's iden y/mental state. so handpicking a definition that obviously doesn't apply, and then saying "agree to disagree" is just being dishonest

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    I suppose a gender reveal party is revealing how the baby self identifies.

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    no, in the context of transgender people in the US, people aren't seeing their penises literally transform into vaginas.

    this entire discussion is about the person's iden y/mental state. so handpicking a definition that obviously doesn't apply, and then saying "agree to disagree" is just being dishonest
    That's because the term "transgender" caters to wishful thinking people. What if I was transage? Like I feel like I am 20 but I'm actually 40? I get skinny jeans, frosted tips and buy a corvette. That's called midlife crisis. If I wanted to be female though, that's somehow transgender because, well, a lot of rich white people do it so it has to have a legit connotation.

    The problem is the rest of the world doesn't have to play along. They don't play along with the age thing... you're an old guy trying to be young again vs you're a male trying to be female. Either of these are based on self iden y. I'm fine with both, just don't expect me to act like you're not the same person you were last week when your adam's apple was prominent.

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    That's because the term "transgender" caters to wishful thinking people. What if I was transage? Like I feel like I am 20 but I'm actually 40? I get skinny jeans, frosted tips and buy a corvette. That's called midlife crisis. If I wanted to be female though, that's somehow transgender because, well, a lot of rich white people do it so it has to have a legit connotation.

    The problem is the rest of the world doesn't have to play along. They don't play along with the age thing... you're an old guy trying to be young again vs you're a male trying to be female. Either of these are based on self iden y. I'm fine with both, just don't expect me to act like you're not the same person you were last week when your adam's apple was prominent.
    except transgenderism has some scientific/psychological backing

    its not like anybody is putting some heavy burdens on you where you're being oppressed because of transgenders

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    I just now realized: did you seriously sign up for a gender studies class?

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    The sickest issue, and most abhorrent hypocrisy is parents psychologically abusing children with this nonsense.

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    The sickest issue, and most abhorrent hypocrisy is parents psychologically abusing children with this nonsense.
    Yep.

    6 year old Michael: Where do the stars go during the day?

    Mom: Nevermind that Michael, have you decided who you want to have sex with?

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    except transgenderism has some scientific/psychological backing

    its not like anybody is putting some heavy burdens on you where you're being oppressed because of transgenders
    People were cross dressing, having a desire to be the opposite of their biological sex, etc.. for a very long time. It's written in autobiographies etc... What the knuckleheads fail to understand is the development of a human from very early stages and the importance of the hormonal levels in ratio to each other. It's a very delicate balance. I mean these people live(d) tortured, confused lives. They saw and heard what they were supposed to be, but felt exactly the opposite. So they did this just to be different and upset the apple cart so they could be vilified? That makes sense... Sure.

    Now I would expect some false analogy. "Well pedophilles feel sexual attraction towards young children. They also are perverts" Yes they do. Do they feel this way and act out for the fun of it? Probably a few. But why in the world would someone make a concious choice to deny their real Hetero attraction for a fully mature human sexually and go after a child? A dominance thing? any genetics and then environmental conditioning? I expect so.

    BUT THE HUGE DIFFERENCE:

    Carrying out their feelings and knowingly destroying the life of a child is pure evil IMO. If you feel this way, get some sort of help. It's available. Feeling, having an urge, to carry out an act on another weaker human (mentally & physically) knowing the repercussions of the action could be catastrophic, to satisfy an urge, is evil IMO.

    The transgender... They may have some explaining to do to their family possibly. Otherwise, it just do not make sense to feel so rabidly violent and dismissive. I expect some on this board feel these folks are just having fun testing societal norms. Maybe, but I don't think so for many. I don't see people purposely making a huge part of their inden y up for criticism for the fun of it. Some of these people, just like sexuals, try to kill themselves. Why flippantly choose to be vilified?

    Maybe there is something wrong with me. A heterosexual male, happily married, could think what I wrote above, that's evil... To me, it makes sense. The coming out "party" we are witnessing, is it the same as people waking up and realizing dark skinned Africans are not animals? I have no idea... I live in the present, read about the past, think and read about possible about futures and have no idea.

    Spurraider can add a bunch and correct a bunch I'm sure since he has actually been (required?)to think about it.

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    I'm a person that deals in logic.


    I'll remind you next time you drop some logical fallacies

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    That's because the term "transgender" caters to wishful thinking people. What if I was transage? Like I feel like I am 20 but I'm actually 40? I get skinny jeans, frosted tips and buy a corvette. That's called midlife crisis. If I wanted to be female though, that's somehow transgender because, well, a lot of rich white people do it so it has to have a legit connotation.

    The problem is the rest of the world doesn't have to play along. They don't play along with the age thing... you're an old guy trying to be young again vs you're a male trying to be female. Either of these are based on self iden y. I'm fine with both, just don't expect me to act like you're not the same person you were last week when your adam's apple was prominent.
    Nobody is proposing bathroom bills or compe ion rules based on age. Nice try tho

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    I'll remind you next time you drop some logical fallacies
    Yea, I don't mean the formal rigors. But you do that, cuck.

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    Yea, I don't mean the formal rigors. But you do that, cuck.
    Lol the "formal rigors"

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    Lol the "formal rigors"

    He's got to be hearing words from somewhere and then Googling them and then trying to use them in a sentence.

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    "Sex" refers to the biological and physiological characteristics that define men and women.
    that's funny because a couple replies above you stated that the vagina and penis have nothing to do with "sex" and are merely sex organs.... hmm... biological & physiological characteristics... huh...

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    that's funny because a couple replies above you stated that the vagina and penis have nothing to do with "sex" and are merely sex organs.... hmm... biological & physiological characteristics... huh...
    You got him now!

    Jeez you're stupid.

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    that's funny because a couple replies above you stated that the vagina and penis have nothing to do with "sex" and are merely sex organs.... hmm... biological & physiological characteristics... huh...
    horse .

    i said penis is not a sex. that is accurate. that doesn't mean it has nothing to do with sex. your sex is determined by your role in reproduction.

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    this entire discussion is about the person's iden y/mental state.
    i know 3 transsexuals that are female to male and have gone through various procedures already. before i knew either of those 3, i called it and ended up right. you know why? their mannerisms were over the top feminine.

    i know 1 other transsexual and it's a dude. he wears makeup and dresses from time to time but i believe he's more drag then anything and if i am not mistaken he doesn't take hormones.

    the females to males though just remind me of gay teenage dudes. their mannerisms were what made me think they were more than a few young gay dudes. either way, they're all rad people, i love them all regardless, and hope the best for them in life.

    The sickest issue, and most abhorrent hypocrisy is parents psychologically abusing children with this nonsense.
    i totally agree.

    [QUOTE=pgardn;9302923]So they did this just to be different and upset the apple cart so they could be vilified? That makes sense... Sure.[QUOTE]

    i feel for those who aren't comfortable in their own skin. i have noi don't treat those i know any different because they're trans. those that are my friends get respect from me and i will call them by whatever pronoun they'd like but at the end of the day i am still not convinced. i still love them for being them though and hope the best for them in life.

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    i know 3 transsexuals that are female to male and have gone through various procedures already. before i knew either of those 3, i called it and ended up right. you know why? their mannerisms were over the top feminine.

    i know 1 other transsexual and it's a dude. he wears makeup and dresses from time to time but i believe he's more drag then anything and if i am not mistaken he doesn't take hormones.

    the females to males though just remind me of gay teenage dudes. their mannerisms were what made me think they were more than a few young gay dudes. either way, they're all rad people, i love them all regardless, and hope the best for them in life.



    i totally agree.

    So they did this just to be different and upset the apple cart so they could be vilified? That makes sense... Sure.
    i feel for those who aren't comfortable in their own skin. i have noi don't treat those i know any different because they're trans. those that are my friends get respect from me and i will call them by whatever pronoun they'd like but at the end of the day i am still not convinced. i still love them for being them though and hope the best for them in life.
    transsexuals who undergo sex change surgery is different than just being transgender, though.

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