Random thought in regards to Derek Fisher's .4 shot:
I may be making this memory up, but I remember reading a thread on Spurstalk years ago about this topic. The comment mentioned that during a game sometime in the '03-'04 season there was .5 seconds on the clock and the ball was inbounded to Bruce Bowen. He then got a shot off, but it was waived off and ruled as being essentially impossible. This was used in the thread I remember reading to prove the hypocrisy of counting Fisher's .4 shot as good.
Please tell me my life hasn't come to the point where I'm making up memories about reading Spurstalk. Might need a response from some OG BNSF.
I remember briefly while watching a game. A tip can be accomplished with at least .2 seconds. A jump shot in .4. they may have other criteria where a dribble can be added. I don't remember the Bowen thing. But trust me when I say that Fisher shot was analyzed thoroughly and he got it off. It was an incredible shot. It's okay though. We still have 5 rings.
Fisher, as I recall, caught the ball with his back to the basket then made a move to turn and face the basket and then shot.
I'll let the researchers chime in here -- in the 14 years since that shot happened has any other shot counted with .4 seconds or less? This would include each of the thousands (20,000 or more) of NBA games since then.
Cut it out already. Who cares? That was three les ago!
Trevor booker shot a backwards shot with .2 seconds let on the shot clock but it was basically tapped up so idk if that’s what you’re looking for.
The Spurs clock guy started the clock .3 seconds late. The clock didn't start til he began shooting...After he caught and turned his body.
It was bull .
I think what you're remembering is a halfcourt shot by Stephen Jackson at the buzzer in a game in 02-03 that was waved off. I think that was inbounded with 0.3 seconds though.Random thought in regards to Derek Fisher's .4 shot:
I may be making this memory up, but I remember reading a thread on Spurstalk years ago about this topic. The comment mentioned that during a game sometime in the '03-'04 season there was .5 seconds on the clock and the ball was inbounded to Bruce Bowen. He then got a shot off, but it was waived off and ruled as being essentially impossible. This was used in the thread I remember reading to prove the hypocrisy of counting Fisher's .4 shot as good.
Please tell me my life hasn't come to the point where I'm making up memories about reading Spurstalk. Might need a response from some OG BNSF.
.4 was legally the minimum to get a jump shot off. Yet Fisher had the time to catch, turn, fade, the ball back, shoot with beautiful follow-through.
Yep...clock started late
Clock started late.
Whoever the started that clock late should be fired from his next 100 jobs. If it's a home timekeeper, that's bull that he'd start it so late. You're supposed to favour the home team, not screw them over.
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Meh I'm just glad Lakers didn't win it that year. Karl Malone was so close haha
But yeah shot shoudnt have counted regardless of what the clock showed. He did too much with the ball for it to possibly be done in .4 seconds. It should have been waved off immediately because it was common sense that with .4 left you cant do a turnaround jumpshot.
But it is what it is.
1) The catch and shoot rule has always been .3. Anything less must be tip.
2) I promise you had that exact shot happened in reverse, meaning the Spurs hit the shot with .4, the refs would've immediately waived it off saying even though it was before the horn, they is no way to get THAT shot off in time.
3) To be 100% fair, the clock guy stopped it late after Timmy shot went through. It should've been stopped at .8.
Stern got what he wanted.
I wish #3 did happen because I wouldn't have the mindset that unless it's something close to the basket this game is over. I would feel like dang that's truly still enough time for Kobe or whoever to get a shot off. But with .4, psh, as soon as I saw ball not going to shaq I knew that it was over, or so I thought.
Yes, though to be fair they stopped it late after Duncans amazing shot prior to that. I'm more pissed at turkoglu laying bricks / refs not calling lakers hacking inside. The way the Lakers celebrated and ran off the court before the review was also annoying and you have to wonder if that conditioned the refs
Bowen had one of the slowest releases in the NBA, so there's that.
Not the Spurs clock guy. The NBA uses a neutral one for playoff games.
Anybody just see the ending to the Magic/Lakers game? Absolute robbery by LA's timekeepers
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