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    He is been doing more than jacking up shots, tbh..
    Guy really deserves all-defensive team consideration. He's soooooooooo much improved over the Portland days.

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    Guy really deserves all-defensive team consideration. He's soooooooooo much improved over the Portland days.
    Agree. Thought he played like a man possessed last night. It seemed infectious on the team who all looked focused & full of energy.

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    He is been doing more than jacking up shots, tbh..
    I never had a problem with his efforts on the defensive end, tbh.

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    He is been doing more than jacking up shots, tbh..
    The Dejounte thread said he led the Spurs in shots contested with 12. How does someone get a .5?

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    The Dejounte thread said he led the Spurs in shots contested with 12. How does someone get a .5?
    And this is the main problem with people just posting stats. There usually isn't an easily viewable corpus of data, nor a transparent methodology. Most likely, the two references to "contested shots" rely on different definitions. My guess is that at least one of LMA's contests came from the team swarming a shooter, giving another guy a .5 as well.

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    And this is the main problem with people just posting stats. There usually isn't an easily viewable corpus of data, nor a transparent methodology. Most likely, the two references to "contested shots" rely on different definitions. My guess is that at least one of LMA's contests came from the team swarming a shooter, giving another guy a .5 as well.
    It might even be as bad as SportVU cameras just keeping track of who the closest player was to a shooter on a contested shot, splitting the contest in case of a tie. Then it would be completely automated without anyone necessarily going back to see if it makes any sense.

    The .8 boxouts is also strange.

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    I'll never be a fan of him, but this is just another case of analytics becoming a rather overrated concept/model in modern day basketball..

    Without Aldridge's ball, the Spurs would have been scraping the barrel with Hawks and Magic of the worlds this season..

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    Has OP ever had a thread bumped because it was correct?

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    The issue with analytics is that no one's found a way to put them into their proper numeric context yet. So long as people don't understand what the stats REALLY mean, they'll continue to make false conclusions.

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    I'll never be a fan of him, but this is just another case of analytics becoming a rather overrated concept/model in modern day basketball..

    Without Aldridge's ball, the Spurs would have been scraping the barrel with Hawks and Magic of the worlds this season..
    Analytics is very overrated. Analytics states that posting up is inefficient but that's a bunch of bs when you figure they count fade away shots as posting up. Just an example of why i don't trust analytics.

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    I'll never be a fan of him, but this is just another case of analytics becoming a rather overrated concept/model in modern day basketball..

    Without Aldridge's ball, the Spurs would have been scraping the barrel with Hawks and Magic of the worlds this season..
    I don’t think they can win as they were tonight even against the Hawks and the Magics.

    The Hawks won one of their games against the Spurs and the Magic whipped the Spurs really bad. Both with Aldridge.

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    The issue with analytics is that no one's found a way to put them into their proper numeric context yet. So long as people don't understand what the stats REALLY mean, they'll continue to make false conclusions.
    Lol you use plus minus all the time to justify your stance on individual players. Sit down

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    Analytics is very overrated. Analytics states that posting up is inefficient but that's a bunch of bs when you figure they count fade away shots as posting up. Just an example of why i don't trust analytics.
    There are no analytics to gauge the correct basketball play, momentum, or anything neuro. Until that happens, people will just say the best player is the one who scores the most points. Just as they have done for years. Dumb fans tbh

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    Has OP ever had a thread bumped because it was correct?

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    Lol you use plus minus all the time to justify your stance on individual players. Sit down
    Plus-minus and analytics are not the same thing. Contextualized analytics and non-contextualized analytics aren't either. Don't let your triggering get in the way of knowing the proper definitions.

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    Lol you use plus minus all the time to justify your stance on individual players. Sit down
    Lol, you have hundreds of posts hating the on court / off court stat. Everyone already knows you don't grasp it and hate. Nobody cares.
    Move on.

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    I'll never be a fan of him, but this is just another case of analytics becoming a rather overrated concept/model in modern day basketball..

    Without Aldridge's ball, the Spurs would have been scraping the barrel with Hawks and Magic of the worlds this season..
    And I have stated that many times on this thread. For example:

    Dudes hear this out: I'M NOT BLAMING LA FOR OUR CURRENT RECORD, I KNOW THAT WITHOUT HIM THE SPURS WOULD BE A LOTTERY TEAM RIGHT NOW. I'M JUST MAKING AN OBSERVATION OF HIS GAME IN GENERAL: HE IS POST UP DEPENDENT (THE LEAST EFFICIENT PLAY IN BASKETBALL), HE IS MIDRANGE DEPENDENT (THE LEAST EFFICIENT SHOT IN BASKETBALL) AND HE PAIRS ALL THAT WITH A TASTE FOR SOFT INEFFICIENT FADEAWAYS. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT HIM HAVING TO STEP UP AS A 1ST OPTION WITH KAWHI INJURED, I'M LOOKING AT THE BIG PICTURE AND COMMENTING THAT, EVEN WHEN KAWHI IS BACK, LA AS A HIGH USAGE SECOND OPTION STILL WON'T BE ENOUGH TO WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS, BECAUSE HIS GAME STYLE JUST ISN'T EFFICIENT FOR TODAY'S NBA. STOP TALKING ABOUT KAWHI BEING INJURED AS IF I WAS BASING MY POINT ON THE FACT THAT THE SPURS AREN'T WINNING GAMES, BECAUSE THAT ISN'T THE CASE AT ALL.
    Why is the topic of this thread so hard to understand? It has little to nothing to do with what has happened this season, tbh.
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    Has OP ever had a thread bumped because it was correct?
    Many times. For example: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234327

    Have I ever had a thread bumped for being wrong, though? I don't think I have, tbh.

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    Lol, you have hundreds of posts hating the on court / off court stat. Everyone already knows you don't grasp it and hate. Nobody cares.
    Move on.
    Lol only idiots think its relevant to judge individual performance... there is nothing to judge. Dont be dumb

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    I don't know if that's referred to me but just in case:

    Dudes hear this out: I'M NOT BLAMING LA FOR OUR CURRENT RECORD, I KNOW THAT WITHOUT HIM THE SPURS WOULD BE A LOTTERY TEAM RIGHT NOW

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    I don't know if that's referred to me but just in case:
    nah... I am not pushing agendas or trying to pick up fights with posters.

    I am just dumping all the Aldridge impact stats in this thread bc whether you intended it or not, the thread turned on a lot of criticism about him and it is now very, very clear that without him, the spurs would probably be right there with Memphis on the tankathon competing for a top 5 pick this season.

    It's still weird to me that you'd start a thread being critical of Aldridge's game when if not for him they hardly win 20 games this season in all likelihood... but IMO it's fine to be critical of guys games that we watch all season. It's like all the Dijon protectors jumping out of the woods when one mentions one critical thing about him. The guy is not perfect and just because one wants him to be better doesn't mean one doesn't cheer for him.

    Anyways, it's obvious that a team playing current Gasol 30+ minutes and Joff is headed to the lottery fast...

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    nah... I am not pushing agendas or trying to pick up fights with posters.

    I am just dumping all the Aldridge impact stats in this thread bc whether you intended it or not, the thread turned on a lot of criticism about him and it is now very, very clear that without him, the spurs would probably be right there with Memphis on the tankathon competing for a top 5 pick this season.

    It's still weird to me that you'd start a thread being critical of Aldridge's game when if not for him they hardly win 20 games this season in all likelihood... but IMO it's fine to be critical of guys games that we watch all season. It's like all the Dijon protectors jumping out of the woods when one mentions one critical thing about him. The guy is not perfect and just because one wants him to be better doesn't mean one doesn't cheer for him.

    Anyways, it's obvious that a team playing current Gasol 30+ minutes and Joff is headed to the lottery fast...
    To me this is the best moment to start this thread about something that I have come to realize about Aldridge's game because nobody can accuse me of being prisoner of the moment. In fact, I started this thread right after a Spurs win in which LA scored 30+ pts.
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    To me this is the best moment to start this thread about something that I have come to realize about Aldridge's game because nobody can accuse me of being prisioner of the moment. In fact, I started this thread right after a Spurs win in which LA scored 30+ pts.
    Problem is that right now Spurs need him to be putting in those numbers. No one else can be consistent offensively and there are no alternatives but to play Aldridge ball. If you had alternatives then one can understand this point better but you don't.

    Like I said, it's fine to be critical of his game in a vacuum. Kawhi has had some critics to his game, specially early on when he started to dominate the ball and go through a lot of Kawhobe phases. And I suspect if he were playing some critics would still brave the crowd with some hot takes. But when you don't have other options but to play Aldridge ball... meh.
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