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Porker also went down last summer when everyone knows he's a soft Charmin player.
Porker also didnt do vs OKC and been an injury prone pussy. It was time.
Porker also went down last summer when everyone knows he's a soft Charmin player.
Select rookie stats for recent 1st Round picks who joined the Spurs for their rookie seasons:
Cory Joseph (2011-12): GP - 29; MPG - 9.2
Kyle Anderson (2014-15): GP - 33; MPG - 10.8
Dejounte Murray (2016-17): GP - 38; MPG - 8.5
Derrick White (2017-18): GP - 16; MPG - 7.5
I have wondered most of the season why Pop was giving DWhite the freeze.
They have needed a big and still do. But Derrick, absent that consideration, was a solid pick at his slot.Seems like most like White now. Seems like yesterday when this forum wasJordan Bell
I hope they don't lose Danny, I really hope he stays.
But Spurs having to account for the supermax soon + the summer deals they gave, I have no idea in what shape they find themselves and who they want to get this summer in FA vs whether they have some backup plans to resign their guys. It's really unpredictable to me and Danny deserves to get paid.
As I've said many times, it seems like PATFO were completely expect Danny to be gone this summer. That's the only way to explain White, Paul, Hanga and Simmons all being shown interest. Unlike some posters on ST, I imagine that Pop knows he can't just expect a random player to come in and do what Danny has done over the past seven seasons. Getting four guys who all have different strengths and levels of experience was the best way to start a compe ion. Paul opting for the trade looks like it caught the team by surprise (as it did most fans, I think). Then missing out on Kyrie by being unable to trade LMA for Jackson sank that opportunity. They'd likely already secured a deal with Paul at the time and thought they'd have more money for Hanga too.
One of the reasons Green may have gotten a new agent is because the Spurs have told him that if he opts out, he's gone. It would be a really, really ty thing for Pop to do one summer after giving Mills and Pau big money, but being ty to Green has never bothered Pop before. Whether Danny stays on the bench or comes back as a starter, he could be an impact player for the teams for years still, but at some point, the team is going to have to change the guard, so not paying Danny loyalty money isn't inherently bad. If they can clean up their cap by summer 2019 while giving their young guys real rotation spots, it could be the key to winning another le. I just don't have a ton of faith that PATFO are looking at this correctly, and if they let Danny go, it will just be because they truly think Mills is a more important player to the roster going forward. And that's ing dumb.
Can’t even begin to think about the thought process behind letting Green go but giving Mills long term cash.
If Green leaves and I have to watch Mills for three more seasons.
You kidding? Danny drinks Mad Dog 20/20.
Other teams strategy:If Green leaves and I have to watch Mills for three more seasons.
1.)Run pick and rolls at Mill
2.)Repeat
As far as DJ goes, I called it pretty early.Talking about every prosect doesn't make it a take you dumb . I'm pretty sure I can find 30 other threads like that.
His church is where the real takes are.
I called for the Spurs to draft him on May 13, 2016, in Dejounte Murray's Think Tank thread over a month before the draft. Didn't talk about any others:
www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=259952
Then I called for him to be drafted again on May 19, 2016 over a month before the draft in the "Who would you try for at #29" thread:
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post8596768
I was in early and didn't talk about any other players in that draft.The Spurs need to draft Dejounte Murray of Washington.
Height: 6-5
Weight: 170 lbs
Date of Birth: 09/19/1996
School: Washington
DraftExpress
NBADraft.net
NBADraft.net gives him a 94. The only categories below 8 are strength (he's 19 & will get stronger), leadership (he's 19), NBA ready (he's 19) and jump shot (Chip can fix).
In other words all of his weaknesses will go away.
He has the potential to play great D, he can get to the rack (moves are incredible), he can pass like Manu and he's athletic as . (See the videos on NBADraft.net for some ungodly fakes.)
He's the prototypical "new" NBA guard that all great teams must now have.
Need to move up to about 14-15 to do it -- just like they did with Kawhi.
Then bring over Bertans.
In Daboom's defense however, after the Spurs drafted Dejounte, he jumped on board pretty quick in the "Church" thread.
Both should be sent to China.
Yeah but Daboom also jumped on the Mills Bandwagon too. Lol
I'll concede there's been some potentially ominous signs regarding Green, but this board has a long history of freaking out over Spurs losing players they were clearly not going to lose and I still maintain that's more than likely the case here.
Green is as much a Spur as Mills is and is obviously more valuable and difficult to replace. If they were clearly only willing to lose Mills if he was collateral damage in a Paul signing and there's no shooting guard even close to that level that's available and they won't have the flexibility to adequately replace Green anyway, it would stand to reason that they'd be dead set on retaining him.
I don't buy that White was picked as a replacement because they're not comparable. His long term role is probably that of a Ginobili replacement. The problem is creating a path to that sometime soon. A Walker trade would do the trick, but I'm starting to suspect they won't even pursue that. Outside of that, it's either attempt to salary dump Mills or continue to diminish Parker's role to the point where he'd rather retire after next season.
I don't like the idea of losing Danny, and I doubt that PATFO really wants that, either. However, the reckless spending last summer may have sealed Danny's fate.
I don't see DWhite in any particular role, and I doubt PATFO did when they picked him. I don't think he would ever be an energizer like Manu which I think we definitely need off the bench. Maybe PATFO thought of him as Dijon insurance, or maybe he was just next on their draft board.
I expect Milutinov and Hanga to come over next season. (Pop must be pining for some Euro company.) And I hope that Blossomgame can graduate from Austin. So there are those possible pieces going forward
Spurs would be better off with Green on 4/50 than Mills.
Teams plan ahead. It's not like they were unaware that Green, barring a career altering injury, was going to opt out. Besides, they already showed what their plan was last off season: unless they can land a superstar or close, maintain as much of the core as possible.
White won't be an energizer like Ginobili, but outside of that, he's close enough to an archetype.
Hanga is probably never coming over and I believe Milutinov can wait one more season and will no longer be bound by the rookie scale (though how much, if any, more he's worth, is a question mark).
Very good point. But even the best laid plans...
However, they clearly were not planning on Patty's becoming such a completely unreliable shooter. They may have expected to have an asset that they could trade this offseason for a reasonable return. Or maybe they simply preferred Patty to Danny, and they ended up backing the wrong horse. I am speculating here, because this awful season has wrecked whatever plan I might have been able to identify.
Austin Spurs will be on Fox Sports on Sunday.
Hopefully White will be there playing.
It'll be great to see the player that Pop will lie about next year like Splitter.
"We wanted to get him time as a rookie, but the was just hurt the whole year." -
I think it was "It wouldn't be fair to the other guys."Austin Spurs will be on Fox Sports on Sunday.
Hopefully White will be there playing.
It'll be great to see the player that Pop will lie about next year like Splitter.
"We wanted to get him time as a rookie, but the was just hurt the whole year." -
While it's true that during Splitter's rookie season that Pop said something like "it wouldn't be fair to the team / other guys", I'm referencing the lies Pop told the SA media unchallenged in the years after.
After Splitter was successful in the next few years, Pop would explain away not playing him as a rookie by lying about Splitter being hurt the whole year and unable to play. While he missed most of camp and later midseason had a brief tailbone injury, he wasn't too hurt to play and contribute. And anyone who watched could tell that he should have played. I actually went through the box scores for that year in a post and found that the vast majority of games Splitter was healthy, cleared, and suited up and either getting garbage time where he played fine or was getting DNP-CDs and on the bench. It was false and the SA media has always been either too dumb or too scared to correct the record.
And because White missed like 3 weeks with a broken bone in November Pop will be free to use that to mislead about White being unavailable.
All the cap expert types out there keep taking about how this summer is going to be a tight FA market, with little cash and appe e to spend by teams. If that’s true I see a scenario where Danny Green (and Gay) opts-in.
And if that happens I can see the spurs flipping him next year if White and others show progress. I love Danny’s game within the role he’s given, but it feels like some turnover might be needed over the next two seasons as the team reloads.
It makes sense that the spurs are drafting and bringing in all these combo guards. After all they’re going to likely have to replace both Manu and Danny as early as this summer. Then you have to factor in Tony’s health.
As far as Danny is concerned, I hope you are right. As far as Rudy is concerned, I hope his health is a non-issue. As far as DWhite is concerned, I am really curious. He is much less athletically gifted than Dijon, but in the G-League he has been very multi-dimensional and showed great, natural PG skill. His passing makes him seem more like a PG than a Danny or Manu replacement.
Positions don't matter. He can play SG and still be a great passer like Manu. I see him as a back up lead guard 6th man type of impact player -- whether thats at the PG or SG position, that is irrelevant.
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