White has a better demeanor/feel for the game
Tony is 5/5 from the floor with 3 assists in 12 minutes at halftime.
Murray otoh has uploaded 5 selfies on IG in 11 minutes. Oh, he's also -13
White has a better demeanor/feel for the game
DJ is not a loser. He is like 21! He has potential still. Expecting him to carry us is stupid. He was late first rounder.
Where you’re drafted only gauges expectations; many outplay their draft positions
14-19 when Delonte starts
The only things Parker does better at this point in their career are dribbling, passing, shooting, finishing at the rim, and handling late-game situations. Dejonte gets more rebounds though.
Yeah White has bball skill and Murray doesn't.
for the sake of not missing POs please start Parker again...![]()
Might have to do it few games after Kawhi returns if Murray's uselessness without the ball proves to be too much..Heck i would go back to last year starting lineup and really let's end with this joke of Paddy starting experiment; it isn't working.
I don’t want to bring down the curtains on Dijon because he’s 21 and has gotten better.
However that Dijon/Mills combo is at least partly to blame for the tankaroo.
If starting Dijon requires Mills to play 30+ minutes maybe it’s not worth it. At this point it seems since Kawhi is not in Pop is just devoting playing time to develop Dijon.
The losses have no ties to DeJounte starting. Has everything to do with the terrible regression and roster outside of Kawhi, LA, Kyle, Green, Murray, White, Bertans.
42 million commited to Pau, Patty and Tony this year. That's your reason. They can't defend, and only show a pulse of offense once every 4 games. Tonys' points are tied to his jumpers falling -- he can't turn the corner anymore unless the D is lazy and makes a mistake.
I will add that it coincides with Pop also “resting” Lamarcus for a sore knee since b4 ASB and Pau getting an increase in minutes solve to that, together with overplaying Mills.
Manu isn’t playing well and he helped in some wins early in the season, Rudy hasn’t looked right since coming back from his injury.
So we bench LA against the best team in the league and we lost because of Murray... Who once again was far from the worst player this game, especially given he didn't even play 20 minutes
You do realize Parker also played with this dog roster when he started, right?
15-6 when Parker starts
14-19 when Murray starts
If you don't notice the starting unit scoring 5 points in 6 minutes when the games start, you need bifocals son. The bench has been the saving grace of this team since Tony got inserted into it and it isn't close. Gasol and Mills are ing trash and they may show a pulse of offense every 4 games..... but that's still more often than this cancerous street balling Instagram superstar.
(Per 100 possessions)
5 man unit of Gasol-Aldridge-Anderson-Green-Parker:
+30.7 pts, +13.3 ast, +.123 FG%, +.114 3P%
5 man unit of Gasol-Aldridge-Anderson-Green-Murray:
-5.9 pts, +1.7 ast, +.008 FG%, -.059 3P%
Leave it to the idiots who never consider context to situations.
There's so many variables such as the strength of schedule, Kawhi, and injuries to consider during the time Parker started:
When Parker started these were the wins and losses:
W- Vs. Dallas (lottery)
W- Vs. MEM (lottery)
W- @ MEM (lottery)
W - DET (lottery)
W - MIA (meh)
W - BOS (good)
L - @DAL
L - @HOU
W- DAL (lottery)
W - LAC (before they improved)
L - @Utah
W- sac (lottery)
W - BKY (lottery)
W- NYK (lottery)
L - DET
W- @NYK (lottery)
W- PHX (lottery
W- sac (lottery)
W- DEN (good)
L - ATL
W- @ BKYN (lottery)
L- @ TOR
During this span -- 5 of these wins were with Kawhi.
During this span, Spurs won games vs. Memphis twice, Knicks twice, BKY twice, Sac twice, Dallas twice. Overall, 11 of the 15 wins with Parker starting were against lottery teams, and 5 of them were with Kawhi playing. Actually should be 12 out of the 15 wins, because the win vs. the Clippers at the time was when they were playing like a garbage lottery team.
There's some context for you.
Kawhi played during the stretch Parker started and the schedule was much softer. These are just the facts though.
Last edited by MaNu4Tres; 03-13-2018 at 01:51 PM.
**Cupcake schedule deserves a fat asterisk**
Last edited by MaNu4Tres; 03-13-2018 at 01:51 PM.
Alright you dumbass. You really want to do this?
These are the Wins Murray has under his lap:
MEM - lottery
@ PHO - lottery
SAC - lottery
@ MEM - lottery
DAL - lottery
@ PHO - lottery
@ CHI - lottery
CLE - when they were laughable
@ CLE - when they were bad
DEN - had 0 points on 0/4 shooting
@ POR - had 4 points, 2/8 shooting, -7
@ MIA - had 0 points on 0/6 shooting
MIN - first game of the season
and finally............
@ TOR - his truly only good win
Not even going to waste any further of my time pointing out his losses against mediocre teams because I already did in this very same thread in this very same page. Those are just the facts though.
14-19 record when he starts, and 13 of those wins were cupcake
Murray hasn't started with Kawhi like Tony did for 9 games.
Also, most of the games Murray started when Tony was back healthy and just resting -- were when most other starters weren't playing. Murray played with Paul starting in two of those games. Murray has started vs. much tougher opponents and it doesn't come close.
The schedule of 21 games that Parker started were extra Charmin soft. Murray has had to start against much tougher opponents and it doesn't come close.
So to be a dumbass and compare the Spurs record when Murray starts vs. Parker starts is irrelevant and carries very little weight unless the schedule and variables are the same.
Now go get your shinebox, dumbass.
Didn't deny Murray has 13 out of 14 wins against laughable opponentsthen tries to make a case that he somehow had a tougher schedule. You can't make this up.
Anybody who watches the games or contributes to the game threads sees how much better the team looks when Parker is on the floor. You're fighting a battle you can't win, just like Murray did when he managed to make Rubio and Ball look like Steph Curry this season.
Those games you highlighted, without context (as per usual)
Here, one more time for your dumbass. He literally had the same contributions as a wet fart did in those wins against DEN, POR, and MIA. Brandon Paul and his 1 point could've started and won those games. The Minny was their first game with their new nucleus, if you want to count that go ahead since you have no choice.
14-19 with an easy schedule. Sad!
Minnesota
Denver
Miami
Cleveland
Cleveland
Toronto
Were all wins vs. playoff teams w/ Murray starting.
The whole point of me pointing out Parkers schedule is for people to see the soft ass schedule the Spurs played when he started and to also point out that Kawhi actually played 9 games during that stint.
The 15-6 record is inflated by the soft schedule of playing only 5 playoff teams ( I included the Heat) out of those 21 games Parker started.
Also, 15 of the 21 games Parker started were at home. 12 of the wins were against Lottery teams. So to use the record the Spurs had w/ TP started as the reason he should start is flat out dumb.
Maybe you are dumb though?
You do realize a big part of Spurs record being 14-19 w/ Murray starting is because of facing better teams during the 33 game sample size right? And not playing with Kawhi like TP got to do for 43% of the games he started.
You do realize that a big part of Spurs record w/ Parker starting is because of 1) A very soft schedule 2) Playing 15 of the 21 games AT HOME. 3) Playing 9 of the 21 games WITH Kawhi. 4) Only 5 of the 21 TP starting games vs. playoff teams. 5) 12 of the 15 Wins being against lottery teams.
Should change your handle to TheGreatIdiot or TheGreatDumbass tbh..
How did you delete your post? Are you a ing mod?
Explains why posters who don't hang off Manure's ball get censored around here.
Anyways, my last post was a response to the one you just reposted, somehow.
We would have probably won this game easily without the inexplicable chance of lineup that led to a slow start. Starting Parker and Mills together.![]()
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