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    So ban semiautomatic rifles? I don't see that flying at all. Not even Obama would have bothered with legislation that ridiculous much less Trump doing it.
    Why is it ridiculous? A ban on semiautos has been extremely successful elsewhere.

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    Don't blame the tool...blame the murderer. People can just as easily be killed via: cars, trucks, knives, homemade bombs, hammers, axes, etc.

    More people die from knives each year than from AR-15s/rifles: https://www.statista.com/statistics/...y-weapon-used/
    What is with this false dilemma? It's not an either or thing. How about blame both the assholes doing the shooting and the ease of access they have to the weapons they use?

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    33 dead - 130 injured in Stabbing Spree: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/3...g-spree-n41966

    84 dead by Vehicle running Through crowd:https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...fore/87109200/

    If someone is set on killing, they'll find a way.
    There are regulations on knives and cars.

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    There are regulations on knives and cars.
    ... but they, and nothing else, are not sacredly protected by perversion of the 2nd Amendment.

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    Come on, dude. Operating a car, by your definition of it, is driving it. Operating a gun involves firing it.

    Millions of people, every day, operate their cars together in clustered groups for hours. Not even the most passionate gun rights supporter would suggest those same people operate their guns in clustered groups for hours every day.
    Of course not, but millions of people every day fire weapons and have never even aimed a gun at anyone. You're not railing against firing guns, but owning them.
    Therein lies the difference. Stop comparing apples to oranges.

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    anything to turn the corner, right blake? don't want to address the murders at the hand of tylenol? yeah, didn't think so because your narrative/agenda falls flat.
    This is so ing re ed. Tylenol is a drug with an actual purpose. Guns were invented specifically because we needed an easier way to kill stuff. These things are not in any way comparable.

    Same with cars, same with alcohol, same with any other object that someone has died from in some random way. Just stop with that nonsense argument.

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    Bad people do bad things. Buy a gun to protect yourself and your loved ones. Don't let them take away your guns in exchange for promises of protection. It's mental masturbation for pacifists and collectivists.

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    Bad people do bad things. Buy a gun to protect yourself and your loved ones. Don't let them take away your guns in exchange for promises of protection. It's mental masturbation for pacifists and collectivists.
    No, you need to give up your right to self defense because you cannot stop a nuclear attack.

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    Of course not, but millions of people every day fire weapons and have never even aimed a gun at anyone. You're not railing against firing guns, but owning them.
    Therein lies the difference. Stop comparing apples to oranges.
    My whole point is that cars and guns are apples and oranges. Thanks for agreeing. And the discussion ITT is related to the operation of them.
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    Come on, dude. Operating a car, by your definition of it, is driving it. Operating a gun involves firing it.

    Millions of people, every day, operate their cars together in clustered groups for hours. Not even the most passionate gun rights supporter would suggest those same people operate their guns in clustered groups for hours every day.
    The argument is valid, there are hundreds of thousands of AR owners that fire their guns on private land and gun ranges every day without harming anyone. Just like there are hundreds of thousands of kids under 14 driving ranch trucks or racing in sanctioned events that don't harm anyone. In scenario that Pavlov proposed, where guns had the exact same requirements as vehicles, a licensed gun owner would only be able to use a registered/ led gun on public land for self defense purposes. If they defended themselves with an unregistered gun, or were not licensed to carry the gun, they would receive a class c misdemeanor.

    In 2014 the number of gun deaths per year finally equaled the number of vehicle deaths. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.4b06f6458857

    Interestingly, that article points out that about two-thirds of all gun deaths are suicides. So, of the 30K gun deaths per year, 20K are suicides...that really deflates the statistics a bit.

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    ok. let me know when you actually want to have a discussion

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    The argument is valid, there are hundreds of thousands of AR owners that fire their guns on private land and gun ranges every day without harming anyone. Just like there are hundreds of thousands of kids under 14 driving ranch trucks or racing in sanctioned events that don't harm anyone.
    Are ranch trucks and race cars disproportionately used in mass murders involving vehicles?

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    I don't own any firearms, but I don't agree with banning semi-auto assault rifles. Just because others can't see a need to own something doesn't mean we should ban them.

    Stricter background checks including review of prescribed medications (opiods)
    Increased age limits on semi-automatics
    Better entrance security for schools (walls/fences creating single entry point)

    I can live with that...
    The school security thing is so re ed. Teachers are underpaid but we have money for armed guards to patrol thousands of schools full time. Heck this school had one and he didnt do
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    The school security thing is so re ed. Teachers are underpaid but we have money for armed guards to patrol thousands of schools full time. Heck this school had one and he didnt do
    My wife is an educator, so I agree with the under paid issue. My point is that most schools, older ones at least, have multiple entry points. They need to be designed more like an airport, where people are funneled into a few secure access points.

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    There were cops at Parkland.

    How many cops do they need?

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    There were cops at Parkland.
    There was a stand down order, and the 2 officers that tried to go in anyways were suspended.

    How many cops do they need?
    This is not a static number. Do you understand what that means?

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    There was a stand down order, and the 2 officers that tried to go in anyways were suspended.
    No, there were resource officers at the school.

    This is not a static number. Do you understand what that means?
    So they need 1 more cop?

    2?

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    Hey kids! Skipping school is OK as long as you are spreading Socialist propaganda


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    Shaq gonna feel real bad when Ingraham tells him to shut up and dribble

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    My whole point is that cars and guns are apples and oranges. Thanks for agreeing. And the discussion ITT is related to the operation of them.
    Well that's odd. In the OP it plainly states "ban assault weapons" not "control the use of assault weapons"

    I suppose you're cooking your own narrative though.

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    Shaq gonna feel real bad when Ingraham tells him to shut up and dribble
    He was told that for years, never could dribble worth a and never ever shut up.

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    The school security thing is so re ed. Teachers are underpaid but we have money for armed guards to patrol thousands of schools full time. Heck this school had one and he didnt do
    Armed guards = cops

    The issue isn't education. Take that up in another thread.

    No one here would have run into that school with an active shooter going ape . They always wait for backup, and if they don't they get killed. It would have been 18 deaths. No way he takes that kid down with his handgun. Cops often cannot hit even with many magazines, under duress. The shooter wasn't under duress, he knew no one was armed.

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    ok. let me know when you actually want to have a discussion
    Ok, let me know when you want to discuss something honestly instead of the too easily spotted narrative shift, passive aggressive/verbal roll eyes and stonewalling.

    Example: How many guns have been brought up on charges of homicide?

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