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    Oh look: strawmen.

    Nice!
    Many people want to ban guns. Fact.

    I've read many comment of people stating they'll take "x" policy for now but also stating their end goal. Fact

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    You're the lawyer. That's on you.
    Lawyers don’t repeal laws. Elected legislators do

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    We should only ban certain kinds of alcohol, like Boone's Farm and Mad Dog 20/20.

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    "The 2nd Amendment is outdated"

    "You couldn't stop tyranny with a gun"

    "Militias don't even exist anymore"

    The narrative is that there should be no cons utional right to own a firearm. Pretending it only would affect semi-autos because of what you think "ought" to be is cute. If you think the 2nd is outdated and needs to be repealed, then you think people should not have a right to own guns. That would eventually apply to all guns. No right to own means no guns in many states (some who have had their hands slapped already by the Supreme Court over cons utional violations, just imagine if the 2nd was repealed).

    File in, all you exceptions who love your liberal representatives but claim to not be totally against the 2nd. Sound off.


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    Lawyers don’t repeal laws. Elected legislators do
    No cardboard brain.

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    You're indeed not.
    sick burn

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    No cardboard brain.

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    This thread is chock full of unique perspectives that are so rarely brought up in gun debates by 2nd Amendment supporters. Hopefully you guys will also explain what assault weapons are/aren't soon, I'm dying to read what you have to say about that.

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    Lol dmc

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    "The 2nd Amendment is outdated"

    "You couldn't stop tyranny with a gun"

    "Militias don't even exist anymore"

    The narrative is that there should be no cons utional right to own a firearm. Pretending it only would affect semi-autos because of what you think "ought" to be is cute. If you think the 2nd is outdated and needs to be repealed, then you think people should not have a right to own guns. That would eventually apply to all guns. No right to own means no guns in many states (some who have had their hands slapped already by the Supreme Court over cons utional violations, just imagine if the 2nd was repealed).

    File in, all you exceptions who love your liberal representatives but claim to not be totally against the 2nd. Sound off.

    Sad that stating the logical conclusion to them is making a "giant leap to fantasy".

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    This thread is chock full of unique perspectives that are so rarely brought up in gun debates by 2nd Amendment supporters. Hopefully you guys will also explain what assault weapons are/aren't soon, I'm dying to read what you have to say about that.
    This is a movement to save lives. You are either for an alcohol ban or you are for thousands of innocent lives being taken by alcohol every year. Sounds like you are for the latter.

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    This thread is chock full of unique perspectives that are so rarely brought up in gun debates by 2nd Amendment supporters. Hopefully you guys will also explain what assault weapons are/aren't soon, I'm dying to read what you have to say about that.
    You should ask your boyfriend.

    Wait, that's your alt account.

    nm

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    That's really rich coming from the forum "nother level" drip pan.

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    There are already laws in place about drunk driving, genius
    but most of USA has BAL of 0.08, a BS level by BigAlcohol buying legislators, when countries serious about drunk drivers use BAL 0.05 or lower.

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    This is a movement to save lives. You are either for an alcohol ban or you are for thousands of innocent lives being taken by alcohol every year. Sounds like you are for the latter.
    I like how you've created a metaphor for guns by using something else in society that is more widely accepted, this is a fresh take. Did you consider how cars are also like guns?

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    I have to wonder with all the teaching that's been going on regarding the technical aspects of guns, if any of you correct your liberal friends when they say something like "machine guns like the AR-15 should be outlawed!"

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    This is a movement to save lives. You are either for an alcohol ban or you are for thousands of innocent lives being taken by alcohol every year. Sounds like you are for the latter.
    Did you write your representatives about this issue?

    Yes or no.

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    You should ask your boyfriend.

    Wait, that's your alt account.

    nm
    That's really rich coming from the forum "nother level" drip pan.
    I have to wonder with all the teaching that's been going on regarding the technical aspects of guns, if any of you correct your liberal friends when they say something like "machine guns like the AR-15 should be outlawed!"
    Remember when you complained about my making it about the poster?

    lol DMC

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    If only we had real-world examples of countries who have ins uted strong gun measures and greatly reduced or eliminated, somehow, the means for criminals to acquire those guns and use them to commit mass murder. I imagine any such country must have also eliminated criminals (because otherwise, there would be criminals getting guns), not to mention violent video games and movies.

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    That's really rich coming from the forum "nother level" drip pan.
    Lol resorting to spurtacluar's re ed line

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    but most of USA has BAL of 0.08, a BS level by BigAlcohol buying legislators, when countries serious about drunk drivers use BAL 0.05 or lower.
    I'd be fine with .05

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    I like how you've created a metaphor for guns by using something else in society that is more widely accepted, this is a fresh take. Did you consider how cars are also like guns?
    Oh . Imagine cars AND alcohol. ....TOGETHER!

    But people are gonna drink and drive no matter what so no use making any laws to curtail it.

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    Ban alcohol.

    It's not a cons utional right.
    It's not useful in anyway besides for recreational purposes.
    It's the cause of countless deaths every year.

    Enough is Enough. Are we just going to stay silent while thousands die from drunk driving every year? The news is trying to work up the nation over 17 lives and the nation is silent over these thousands of lives being lost. Are we as a people so at the whims of manipulation that 17 lives will garner our outrage at such drastic levels and we'd be completely silent about thousands that die every year because of alcohol?

    I mean alcohol only matches guns in terms of the recreational aspect. Alcohol isn't useful for self defense. Alcohol isn't going help battle a tyrannical government. Alcohol is basically useless for us as a people but it causes so many deaths. It's time for us to say "Enough is Enough".

    I'm just shocked that all these other countries haven't banned it in an effort to save lives. They banned guns under the premise that it would save lives. Why have they not done the same for alcohol? It's basically a moral obligation. We must not stand by any longer. It's a moral duty.
    Alcohol as a variety of industrial uses, and is a way of concentrating and storing chemical energy.

    The primary purpose of the product is not to harm others, and the harm is generally limited to self, which limits the moral argument substantially. Consumption of alcohol in moderate amounts has actually proven to have positive health impacts.

    Preventing drunk driving is important. I am all for cars with sensors that disable themselves if the owner has been drinking.

    If you argument is based on morals, define what standard you are using, as specifically as possible.

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    This is a movement to save lives. You are either for an alcohol ban or you are for thousands of innocent lives being taken by alcohol every year. Sounds like you are for the latter.
    You either think reasoning through false dichotomies is valid, or you don't.

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    the self ownage in this thread is incredible. Gun nuts aren't the brightest bunch.

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