Whose side are you on? Kawhi vs PATFO

[ducks]

Lma gets this team to 50 wins with 9 games only with Leonard
Spurs could trade him straight up for harden

Anderson has improved A lot because he now has to play

[K...]

This team would get 55 wins of we could game plan around the loss of Leonard. We'd have developed the pg rotation better. And had more cap room. Dead weight Leonard is better of course, the Spurs lose 3-10 games due to Leonard's psychological warfare

This whole thread is just apo trying to subs ute his preferences over kawhi like he's his second Uncle

[DPG21920]

BS. Westbrook isnt leading his team to 60 is he?

The myth that poop can carry anyteam to 50 is now busted. And we can finally rest the idea that the spurs actually have a decent rooster and that kawhi is surrounded by a decent rooster. He is not.

Bruh - they are at 42 wins with 10 games to go . So if they finish a few short of 50 because that’s how things go, you “busted” that myth? GTFO

[apalisoc_9]

Bruh - they are at 42 wins with 10 games to go . So if they finish a few short of 50 because that’s how things go, you “busted” that myth? GTFO

Well duh. So can we say they were a 70 win team then a year ago cause you know they jist finished under 70..

50ish win team is a team that is comfortbly winning 50..

The spurs are struggling to even win 45. They suck donkey balls with piss poor talent.

[coachmac87]

New Poll...


OP is a got?

Yes or No

[Dex]

This team would get 55 wins of we could game plan around the loss of Leonard. We'd have developed the pg rotation better. And had more cap room. Dead weight Leonard is better of course, the Spurs lose 3-10 games due to Leonard's psychological warfare

This whole thread is just apo trying to subs ute his preferences over kawhi like he's his second Uncle

Not trying to shift blame on Kawhi, because I still believe he would rather be healthy on the court.

But yeah...him being out basically leaves a $20M gap for the product on the floor. And some posters wonder why we aren't winning as many games.

[NASpurs]

Not trying to shift blame on Kawhi, because I still believe he would rather be healthy on the court.

But yeah...him being out basically leaves a $20M gap for the product on the floor. And some posters wonder why we aren't winning as many games.

I don’t think anyone wonders that. I think people wonder why is much of our cap space tied up to basically two backup point guards and the corpse of Pau Gasol even before all the Kawhi fiasco.

[tholdren]

They're both at fault but I think most of the blame should go to Kawhi's soft, -made ass, tbh.

Been saying for years

[r0drig0lac]

I don’t think anyone wonders that. I think people wonder why is much of our cap space tied up to basically two backup point guards and the corpse of Pau Gasol even before all the Kawhi fiasco.

[dbreiden83080]

The facts

- Kawhi was misdaganosed medically by incompetent spurs doctors that forced him to play endangering his livelihood

Misdiagnosed what? They diagnosed he had a penis and it turns out it's a vagina? He has never had surgery. He went to see other Doctors and still did not have surgery. Anyone suggesting the Spurs did anything wrong causing this are trolling. Every doctor from SA to NY has told this idiot to play. He is SOFT. That is why he won't..

The rumors

- Kawhi is unhappy with the Patty and Gasol Extension
- Kawhi is unhappy with the lack of recognition

None of that equals not playing ball. Kyrie was apparently unhappy as soon as Lebron came back to town. He balled the out, won a ring, and played great last year as well going back to the finals. THEN he asked for a trade in the off-season. What is the point of laying down and not playing when you can? How does it benefit him to plummet his value? He is out because he is SOFT. He could be playing in LA and it would be the same . "My quad hurts"..

[tholdren]

Misdiagnosed what? They diagnosed he had a penis and it turns out it's a vagina? He has never had surgery. He went to see other Doctors and still did not have surgery. Anyone suggesting the Spurs did anything wrong causing this are trolling. Every doctor from SA to NY has told this idiot to play. He is SOFT. That is why he won't..



None of that equals not playing ball. Kyrie was apparently unhappy as soon as Lebron came back to town. He balled the out, won a ring, and played great last year as well going back to the finals. THEN he asked for a trade in the off-season. What is the point of laying down and not playing when you can? How does it benefit him to plummet his value? He is out because he is SOFT. He could be playing in LA and it would be the same . "My quad hurts"..

+1

[TimDunkem]

Misdiagnosed what? They diagnosed he had a penis and it turns out it's a vagina? He has never had surgery. He went to see other Doctors and still did not have surgery. Anyone suggesting the Spurs did anything wrong causing this are trolling. Every doctor from SA to NY has told this idiot to play. He is SOFT. That is why he won't..



None of that equals not playing ball. Kyrie was apparently unhappy as soon as Lebron came back to town. He balled the out, won a ring, and played great last year as well going back to the finals. THEN he asked for a trade in the off-season. What is the point of laying down and not playing when you can? How does it benefit him to plummet his value? He is out because he is SOFT. He could be playing in LA and it would be the same . "My quad hurts"..

I find myself disagreeing with you most of the time, but you're right on the money with this one.

Considering that he has teammates who routinely get hurt, that there are guys coming off of broken bones, shredded knees, and that just about every damn player in the league is sore at this point - there's nothing about his quad that should keep him from coming back for this final stretch of games.

He is being a little , plain and simple, and I was a guy who was on his side right up until this past week.

[Poolboy5623]

them both tbh..

[dbreiden83080]

I find myself disagreeing with you most of the time, but you're right on the money with this one.

Considering that he has teammates who routinely get hurt, that there are guys coming off of broken bones, shredded knees, and that just about every damn player in the league is sore at this point - there's nothing about his quad that should keep him from coming back for this final stretch of games.

He is being a little , plain and simple, and I was a guy who was on his side right up until this past week.

It just looks like he is not that GUY. Not the GUY you build around, and NO do you Supermax this man after all this. You would be insane to do that. He made 19 mil this year to sit on the bench, and in spite of Doctors telling him to go play, he flat out refused. He owes the Spurs a refund..

[Leetonidas]

PATFO deserves plenty of criticism for their ty roster construction and management. But as far as this saga with Leonard goes I am fully on the teams side. There's nothing wrong with this dude. He's just being a pussy. His issue is mental not physical imo

[tholdren]

PATFO deserves plenty of criticism for their ty roster construction and management. But as far as this saga with Leonard goes I am fully on the teams side. There's nothing wrong with this dude. He's just being a pussy. His issue is mental not physical imo

Are those butts real in your sig? Ive always wondered that

[dbreiden83080]

PATFO deserves plenty of criticism for their ty roster construction and management. But as far as this saga with Leonard goes I am fully on the teams side. There's nothing wrong with this dude. He's just being a pussy. His issue is mental not physical imo

ty roster???? We won 61 last year and made the conference finals. We would be doing the same but this hack won't play. 20 years in a row of making the playoffs.. Go be a Knicks fans. Talk about ty MGT..

[spursistan]

Misdiagnosed what? They diagnosed he had a penis and it turns out it's a vagina? He has never had surgery. He went to see other Doctors and still did not have surgery. Anyone suggesting the Spurs did anything wrong causing this are trolling. Every doctor from SA to NY has told this idiot to play. He is SOFT. That is why he won't..



None of that equals not playing ball. Kyrie was apparently unhappy as soon as Lebron came back to town. He balled the out, won a ring, and played great last year as well going back to the finals. THEN he asked for a trade in the off-season. What is the point of laying down and not playing when you can? How does it benefit him to plummet his value? He is out because he is SOFT. He could be playing in LA and it would be the same . "My quad hurts"..

[Leetonidas]

ty roster???? We won 61 last year and made the conference finals. We would be doing the same but this hack won't play. 20 years in a row of making the playoffs.. Go be a Knicks fans. Talk about ty MGT..

We don't have the same roster from last year. We lost three very productive bench players and replaced them with basically nothing. We handed out ridiculous loyalty contracts to Gasol and mills. We have a team now that plays inside out in 2018 and none of our "three point specialists" can even crack 40% from distance. We rely on fossils to bail us out. And we have no backup big men.

Take off your homer glasses dude. This team is very poorly constructed

[TimDunkem]

We don't have the same roster from last year. We lost three very productive bench players and replaced them with basically nothing. We handed out ridiculous loyalty contracts to Gasol and mills. We have a team now that plays inside out in 2018 and none of our "three point specialists" can even crack 40% from distance. We rely on fossils to bail us out. And we have no backup big men.

Take off your homer glasses dude. This team is very poorly constructed

[Arcadian]

I withhold choosing a side pending further information.

[Chinook]

We lost three very productive bench players and replaced them with basically nothing.

Simmons doesn't count. He was barely in the rotation for most of last year and has been more than eclipsed by Anderson's larger role. And , White is leaps and bounds better than Jon. I agree about their center rotation taking a hit, but it's not remotely clear they decreased in overall talent. Gay and White should have more than made up for their losses, though having a better center than Joff would have been nice.

I have plenty of issues with the roster construction, but them letting go of detritus and having a ring-chaser retire on them aren't among those reasons.

[Gummi Clutch]

Kawhi would be NOBODY had it not been for the spurs and Poop. Anybody thinking otherwise is a ing moron. The irony is that the same skills, at ude etc they helped him develop is exactly what he is throwing away, thinking that the small market/low-keyness of the spurs is hurting his brand.

Anybody defending him at THIS* point is a moron. Before this it was ok to speculate, but even Manu of all people has called his made ass out.

[Joseph Kony]

Simmons doesn't count. He was barely in the rotation for most of last year and has been more than eclipsed by Anderson's larger role. And , White is leaps and bounds better than Jon. I agree about their center rotation taking a hit, but it's not remotely clear they decreased in overall talent. Gay and White should have more than made up for their losses, though having a better center than Joff would have been nice.

I have plenty of issues with the roster construction, but them letting go of detritus and having a ring-chaser retire on them aren't among those reasons.

I don't think it detracts from my point. Whether or not you think Simmons was an actual rotational player or not, he played a fair amount, and having that depth was helpful in certain games. I am not a fan of Simmons and was never one who was upset about him leaving or not getting a fair deal or whatever, but he was a nice slasher off the bench to have, something the spurs do not have at all right now unless you count Manu's old ass. My point is, Spurs bench was much better last year. Part of that is the spurs bench having a more defined role vs this season when players are in and out of the lineups on a nightly basis and part of it is because Manu/Tony are a year older. But the spurs have been able to rest players and coast in the RS because they had a great bench. They lost 3 rotational guys and replaced them with Joff who is terrible, BP3 who doesnt really do anything, and Rudy Gay who i have been a fan of but unfortunately has been underwhelming thus far.

I wasn't necessarily harping on the guys they lost, but the fact they didnt do to strengthen the bench. Even if Kawhi was healthy, relying on a post-achilles tear Rudy Gay, post-ruptured quad TP, 53 year old Manu, Kyle "pass on open shots" Anderson, and Bryn Forbes to carry your bench is ing re ed. Really what im most pissed about is the contracts they gave to Pau/Mills which have completely nixed any flexibility we had to make moves. Everything else is a result of that tbh.

I am a big white fan but it doesnt matter if he never plays. And Pop wont play him because hes a rook and needs to get over himself first

[Down Under]

No other team, bar Golden State, is winning 55% of it's games without it's best player.