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    Well Kawhi will react one of two ways:

    1. He will finally realize that his distance was creating an issue for his teammates. As obvious as it was to many of us, he may not have thought like that or realized. He will hopefully start to be around the team more and be more engaged.

    2. He will view it as an attack and not care about what they think and just keep doing his thing.

    Has less to do with the injury and more to do with leadership/communication

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    The fact of the meeting, itself, that it was necessary, is the significance -- whether or not there was some melodramatic dialogue.

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    TP definitely not going to pass it to Kawhi when he comes back

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    eh, it's more exciting when the media makes it sound like a shouting match.
    nah it was a begging and imploring match...
    still no denying of begging... danny only denied coming after anybody.

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    Danny Green after seeing TP’s comments: whoopsy daisy


    Danny has no filter...
    if you catch him at the club he will recreate the begging.

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    Danny Green after seeing TP’s comments: whoopsy daisy
    I doubt all 14 of the other players (though I guess it could be 16 with Hilliard and Costello if they were invited) are of exactly the same mind about the meeting and about Kawhi in general. Parker and Manu seem to be sharpening their criticism of Kawhi, while Green is coming to his aid more and more. It's not clear which way is "right" or even which will be more effective. I think it's probably best that both views are being expressed. Tony, Manu, Danny, LaMarcus, and DeJounte are pretty much the only players whose opinions matter, so getting a sense of where the latter two stand would likely give a better picture of the team's mindset.

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    I doubt all 14 of the other players (though I guess it could be 16 with Hilliard and Costello if they were invited) are of exactly the same mind about the meeting and about Kawhi in general. Parker and Manu seem to be sharpening their criticism of Kawhi, while Green is coming to his aid more and more. It's not clear which way is "right" or even which will be more effective. I think it's probably best that both views are being expressed. Tony, Manu, Danny, LaMarcus, and DeJounte are pretty much the only players whose opinions matter, so getting a sense of where the latter two stand would likely give a better picture of the team's mindset.
    I know - I was just joking. It’s very clear there is an “old head” mentality and “new school”. I makes perfect sense when taken in context why TP/Manu would view it one way vs most others.

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    TP definitely not going to pass it to Kawhi when he comes back
    I wouldn't pass to him either, he looks like he has been on the Mills-Blair diet.

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    TP definitely not going to pass it to Kawhi when he comes back
    Lol. I'm finally on team Tony. Dude is embarrassing Kawhi

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    I doubt all 14 of the other players (though I guess it could be 16 with Hilliard and Costello if they were invited) are of exactly the same mind about the meeting and about Kawhi in general. Parker and Manu seem to be sharpening their criticism of Kawhi, while Green is coming to his aid more and more. It's not clear which way is "right" or even which will be more effective. I think it's probably best that both views are being expressed. Tony, Manu, Danny, LaMarcus, and DeJounte are pretty much the only players whose opinions matter, so getting a sense of where the latter two stand would likely give a better picture of the team's mindset.
    hmm
    good cop/bad cop routine? I dig it.

    Think Dijon is too young and new to be opinionated about Kiwi and thus wouldn't be anything but respectful.

    Rudy said it was a conversation, but it was real where things that concerned them were talked about. He seems very sincere. Considering his injury history and the fact he joined the team to play with Kiwi, I can picture Rudy being disappointed that Kiwi is sitting out and is in limbo.

    It seems the players have only reacted to the characterization of the meeting as being something tense and like an agitated discussion... but there was a discussion/conversation about issues that concern them.

    Lamarcus I don't really know about.

    Mills, who you don't count much, (should have more clout than Dijon for example, considering vet leadership), said he was reassured that Kiwi is doing all he can to come back and seems to support him in his interview from a couple of days ago, the same day Manu said he wasn't expecting Kiwi back.

    Overall, I think the team overall supports Kiwi... but Manu and Tony are really skeptical of him coming back, and of this mystery injury, perhaps even Rudy too.

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    TP definitely not going to pass it to Kawhi when he comes back
    Parker is going HAM on Kawhi -assnes in about the most tactful way he could..


    TP toughness has always been underrated, tbh..Like you said in previous post, he was brought up in this league playing alongside warriors like Duncan/Manu/Bowen; he has no truck with the act Kawhi is pulling right now. And you could see his frustration has boiled over..

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    that's not even tactful. not a fan of tony coming at him publicly like that "mine was a hundred times worse"

    that's not helping anybody

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    Well Kawhi will react one of two ways:

    1. He will finally realize that his distance was creating an issue for his teammates. As obvious as it was to many of us, he may not have thought like that or realized. He will hopefully start to be around the team more and be more engaged.

    2. He will view it as an attack and not care about what they think and just keep doing his thing.

    Has less to do with the injury and more to do with leadership/communication
    both great points DPG.

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    that's not even tactful. not a fan of tony coming at him publicly like that "mine was a hundred times worse"

    that's not helping anybody
    Is what Kawhi doing helpful? Obviously not considering everyone from the doctors to the coach to the team has been left in the dark.

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    that's not even tactful. not a fan of tony coming at him publicly like that "mine was a hundred times worse"

    that's not helping anybody
    if that is what came out on the media, you can imagine what came out privately.... use your imagination.

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    Parker is going HAM on Kawhi -assnes in about the most tactful way he could..


    TP toughness has always been underrated, tbh..Like you said in previous post, he was brought up in this league playing alongside warriors like Duncan/Manu/Bowen; he has no truck with the act Kawhi is pulling right now. And you could see his frustration has boiled over..

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    Dang! Tony went in. I understand though. These have been thru injuries too and are doing everything they can to make the playoffs and win ball games. Yet they hear and have know Kawhi has been cleared by the same medical staff that they go and Kawhi isn't playing. I'd be pissed too.

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    TP definitely not going to pass it to Kawhi when he comes back
    On the contrary... I think TP is upset that Kawhi doesn't appear to want to play and that he's not coming back to play this season.

    Instead of thinking he's happy he doesn't have to pass to Kawhi, it's the opposite. He wants Kiwi back and thinks he should be playing by now.
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    If we never traded Paul George in the first place, we wouldn’t be having this problem, tbh

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    Is what Kawhi doing helpful? Obviously not considering everyone from the doctors to the coach to the team has been left in the dark.
    why are we moving the goalpost from what parker said to what kawhi is doing. its possible that neither is helpful

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    Can you in' imagine it?

    This particular episode of this long saga has already tarnished his legacy and perception around the league...

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    why are we moving the goalpost from what parker said to what kawhi is doing. its possible that neither is helpful
    No it’s context. The only movement we’ve seen from Kawhi is when Pop made his public comments, then lo and behold Kawhi came out and spoke.

    Now there is report of the meeting and players speaking out about it. I would not be surprised this is the tactic to get Kawhi to speak.

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    I was gonna say something about guys like MJ and Kobe. How would they react to Kawhi's situation?

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    I was gonna say something about guys like MJ and Kobe. How would they react to Kawhi's situation?
    Jordan would have a new nickname in that case: Teammatekiller

    PS.
    @harlemheat37 has the background story,tbh.

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    TP definitely not going to pass it to Kawhi when he comes back
    Parker basically telling Kawhi to stop being a mental midget pussy.

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