Tony Parker throwing shade at Kawhi

[duncan2k5]

You sound re ed. If Kawhi is sitting out because he despises the FO and coaches then he should ask for a trade instead of sitting out and being unprofessional.

How is he being unprofessional by sitting out? THE GUY IS INJURED!! wtf!?

[duncan2k5]

Just read the entire Parker, journalist exhchange and at no point did it com off as a subtle dig at Kawhi. The media and so-called spurs fans are just looking to fan the flames of dissension. Tony as he does so often spoke in a “matter of fact” manner. Was his injury 100x worse than what was initially diagnosed of Kawhi....yes. Did something change after that. It appears so from what Leonard’s camp has been leaking to the media. If you subscribe to that notion, the bigger issue here is that his teammates have been kept in the dark through this entire process. So as far as Tony is aware the injury shoudnt have warranted the extended rehab since they only knew what the Spurs medical team has told them.

Why do ppl say he isn't communicating? Pop says they talk every day... Green says they talk everyday... He practices with them and is there on the bench during games the vast majority of the time... YOU guys are assuming he is distancing himself... And how do u know parkers injury is 100x worse? Can he feel Kawhi'so pain? That's not something you say about another teammate... Imagine u have a wife and say "I had cancer too, and mine was 100x worse... I came back in less time and I trust the doctors we go to... I wouldn't have went for a second opinion like she did" wtf kinds thing is that? You don't say stuff like that about a teammate... You guys only defend Parker because u agree with him... If he said that about Duncan being in a similar situation, he would be bashed endlessly for those comments

[duncan2k5]

slavery isn't just picking cotton in shabby clothing and being sold on an auction block while nude. Slavery is when you don't have possession of your own labor and restrictions on your freedom. Record contracts are slave contracts. That's why when you sign a record contract, you can't do another song outside of the label working with another label unless you are granted permission by the label owner. The NBA is no differnt. Players have to structure their contracts in that they are allowed to actually play street ball or get permission to do so. Riding motor bikes isn't allowed and even appearing on certain dvds and saying certain things can lead to fines(Carmelo Anthony was fined for appearing on a Stop Snitching dvd). And the NBA life isn't just working a few hours a week. You have mandatory team meetings, morning shoot arounds, practices, before the game shoot arounds, mandatory interviews, mandatory ANSWERS in the interviews(Sheed was fined for saying "both teams played hard" over and over), can't criticize officials, mandatory photo shoots, and and mandatory promos. So no, it's not getting paid millions to for a few hours of work per week. The NBA owns their players and that is indeed a form of slavery. I'm a vetaran and NBA players make a of a lot more than I made in the military, but I was a slave to the government like NBA players are to team owners and Adam Silver. You're welcome.

And the reason I said "this isn't slavery" is that it's a form of slavery but not slavery in the sense of Christianity/Islam/Ancestor worship slavery

Nice reply, tbh

[ElNono]

In Tony's defense, he's probably the worst teammate of all time, tbh... there's plenty of do ented cases, besides the Brent Barry situation, the bottle at the night club, his comments that the Spurs will likely never win another ring, giving away a compe ive advantage at the Finals... he's just probably oblivious to it...

[Ice009]

Seriously, I don't believe Tony slept with Brent's wife. I'm sure of it that he didn't. He wouldn't have been on the team still if he had of IMO.

[james evans]

Seriously, I don't believe Tony slept with Brent's wife. I'm sure of it that he didn't. He wouldn't have been on the team still if he had of IMO.

well why did Brent Barry and Eva Longoria get divorces? Surely you don't think they would get a divorce for testing. Have you thought about that?

[Ice009]

well why did Brent Barry and Eva Longoria get divorces? Surely you don't think they would get a divorce for testing. Have you thought about that?

As far as I know Brent's marriage was on the rocks well before the texting. Erin Barry also vehemently denied cheating on Brent. Eva, who knows, she probably didn't trust Tony. He very well could have cheated on her with someone else, but I still don't believe he slept with Erin Barry at all. Nothing more than texting.

[daslicer]

slavery isn't just picking cotton in shabby clothing and being sold on an auction block while nude. Slavery is when you don't have possession of your own labor and restrictions on your freedom. Record contracts are slave contracts. That's why when you sign a record contract, you can't do another song outside of the label working with another label unless you are granted permission by the label owner. The NBA is no differnt. Players have to structure their contracts in that they are allowed to actually play street ball or get permission to do so. Riding motor bikes isn't allowed and even appearing on certain dvds and saying certain things can lead to fines(Carmelo Anthony was fined for appearing on a Stop Snitching dvd). And the NBA life isn't just working a few hours a week. You have mandatory team meetings, morning shoot arounds, practices, before the game shoot arounds, mandatory interviews, mandatory ANSWERS in the interviews(Sheed was fined for saying "both teams played hard" over and over), can't criticize officials, mandatory photo shoots, and and mandatory promos. So no, it's not getting paid millions to for a few hours of work per week. The NBA owns their players and that is indeed a form of slavery. I'm a vetaran and NBA players make a of a lot more than I made in the military, but I was a slave to the government like NBA players are to team owners and Adam Silver. You're welcome.

And the reason I said "this isn't slavery" is that it's a form of slavery but not slavery in the sense of Christianity/Islam/Ancestor worship slavery

You sound like a brainwashed idiot with all the hyperbole your spitting about the NBA. Like I said before please sign me up for this type of slavery in which I can get paid millions of dollars and work in a much less stressful environment than corporate America. Wow such awful restrictions that a player can't ride a motorcycle or play street ball without getting permission. Every job has some restrictions about what you can do outside of the workplace. You can get fired for saying something controversial on facebook,twitter if your employer doesn't agree with what you said. That's pretty much a restriction of freedom of speech for most people who work in corporate America have to deal with. Doctors are not allowed to date their own patients and if they do they lose their medical license. I'm sure they are not many doctors out there who are crying about that restriction. People who work in financial services are not allowed to accept certain types of gifts from clients without getting in legal trouble. You about how NBA players can't criticize the refs without getting fined well it's even worse in a regular job where you can't criticize your boss or a person in a higher position of power without risking huge chance of getting fired.

NBA players have a lot of free time on their hands. The mandatory photo shoots, promos which you were spouting off about happen mainly during training camp. Training camp is actually the only time where NBA players have to do a lot of work and preparation but that only lasts around a month. A typical NBA schedule is that on game day a player has to go to shoot around for an hour in the morning and then is free to do whatever want to do for the rest of day until they are required to report to the arena 90 minutes before tip off. Mandatory meetings don't happen often and are a once in while deal. Mandatory interviews with the media after games are not really time consuming they only last 5-10 minutes and then you are done. Also NBA teams don't really practice much anymore. I heard Pop actually say in an interview a few weeks ago that teams rarely practice during the regular season. Doesn't really seem like a time consuming job to me if you are a player. I actually heard Devin Booker say in an interview that the hardest thing he had to deal with being in the NBA as rookie was suffering from boredom due to all the free time you get in the NBA.

If you want to say capitalism is unfair then I won't argue that but to say the NBA is slavery due to players having restrictions on them is stupid. In a capitalistic system you will always have restrictions placed on your freedom unless you are self employed and running your own business. If the NBA players don't like the way the system is run then they can quit and create their own league where they can control everything. Like I said before please sign me up for this type of slavery where I can work 3-7 hour a week getting paid millions on a guaranteed contract; have strong union protection; I can openly criticize my boss along with speaking out on controversial social issues and not have to worry about getting fired.

[DAF86]

As far as I know Brent's marriage was on the rocks well before the texting. Erin Barry also vehemently denied cheating on Brent. Eva, who knows, she probably didn't trust Tony. He very well could have cheated on her with someone else, but I still don't believe he slept with Erin Barry at all. Nothing more than texting.

What difference does it make it they fulfilled the act or not? The texting alone is bad enough.

[james evans]

I can actually pick your post apart but I'll just focus on one thing. Once they sign that contract, they cannot just quit, walk away and start their own league and get paid. That would be a breech of contract. When the contract ends, they can do that. Jordan is generating Nike billions a year and have generated them billions since signing with them in 1984. Jordan right now couldn't walk away and develop his own brand of shoes if he wanted to. The jordan brand is owned by NIKE btw.. Capitalism doesn't suck to me. I benefit from it and I enjoy it. Bottom line, if you don't own your labor and can't do what the you want without the ability to walk away and start fresh just that eaasily, then you're a slave. NOw, I'm sure players can retire and do as such, but even then, I don't know the full restrictions on that if for example Lebron wanted to "retire" from the NBA and go make $60 million a year in a foreign league. A mandatory interview is more than 5-10 minutes. It's normally an hour after the game and you're backstage waiting for someone to finish before you take the podium. The interview itself is only 5-10, the process of it isn't. No one practices on game day(obviously) but if your rebuttal to my post that no team practices and they just sit around and wait for games, we need not talk about anything else behind the scenes. Tom Thibodeu doesn't hold practices? We haven't even discussed working out and traveling and film study. . haha. "a few hours a week " lol

[cd98]

slavery isn't just picking cotton in shabby clothing and being sold on an auction block while nude. Slavery is when you don't have possession of your own labor and restrictions on your freedom. Record contracts are slave contracts. That's why when you sign a record contract, you can't do another song outside of the label working with another label unless you are granted permission by the label owner. The NBA is no differnt. Players have to structure their contracts in that they are allowed to actually play street ball or get permission to do so. Riding motor bikes isn't allowed and even appearing on certain dvds and saying certain things can lead to fines(Carmelo Anthony was fined for appearing on a Stop Snitching dvd). And the NBA life isn't just working a few hours a week. You have mandatory team meetings, morning shoot arounds, practices, before the game shoot arounds, mandatory interviews, mandatory ANSWERS in the interviews(Sheed was fined for saying "both teams played hard" over and over), can't criticize officials, mandatory photo shoots, and and mandatory promos. So no, it's not getting paid millions to for a few hours of work per week. The NBA owns their players and that is indeed a form of slavery. I'm a vetaran and NBA players make a of a lot more than I made in the military, but I was a slave to the government like NBA players are to team owners and Adam Silver. You're welcome.

And the reason I said "this isn't slavery" is that it's a form of slavery but not slavery in the sense of Christianity/Islam/Ancestor worship slavery

This is actually pretty stupid. Contracts are mutual promises entered into and supported by consideration. Players and teams are under no obligation to contract with each other and when they do, they do so willingly. Slavery is when you force someone to do work and generally at no payment. It’s just a stupid comparison. People enter into contracts all the time. We do it all the time. There is no slavery if you enter into an agreement and get the benefit of your bargain.

[james evans]

This is actually pretty stupid. Contracts are mutual promises entered into and supported by consideration. Players and teams are under no obligation to contract with each other and when they do, they do so willingly. Slavery is when you force someone to do work and generally at no payment. It’s just a stupid comparison. People enter into contracts all the time. We do it all the time. There is no slavery if you enter into an agreement and get the benefit of your bargain.

What were indentured servants? A form of slavery, but not called outright slavery and yes they were paid for it. And no they didn't own their labor. They couldn't just "walk away" either. And I'm using history examples for modern day because I have 3 degrees on the subject so let's not go there please. That's another ball game. Prince was making millions from Warner brothers and when he was calling himself a slave during the 90s I thought, "this guy is worth millions, that's not slavery" and then I became knowledgeable on the workings of the world and what the term "slave" means. You can be worth over $100 million dollars and still not have freedom to do everything you want to do(that is legal of course). Yall need to get this out of your minds that the word "slave" - black person picking cotton on plantation.

[duncan2k5]

As far as I know Brent's marriage was on the rocks well before the texting. Erin Barry also vehemently denied cheating on Brent. Eva, who knows, she probably didn't trust Tony. He very well could have cheated on her with someone else, but I still don't believe he slept with Erin Barry at all. Nothing more than texting.

Even in your very best scenario... The guy was freaky texting his teammates wife... His is that not cancerous? And that's me being very generous... Apparently the texts indicated that they did have sex... But whatever

[daslicer]

I can actually pick your post apart but I'll just focus on one thing. Once they sign that contract, they cannot just quit, walk away and start their own league and get paid. That would be a breech of contract. When the contract ends, they can do that. Jordan is generating Nike billions a year and have generated them billions since signing with them in 1984. Jordan right now couldn't walk away and develop his own brand of shoes if he wanted to. The jordan brand is owned by NIKE btw.. Capitalism doesn't suck to me. I benefit from it and I enjoy it. Bottom line, if you don't own your labor and can't do what the you want without the ability to walk away and start fresh just that eaasily, then you're a slave. NOw, I'm sure players can retire and do as such, but even then, I don't know the full restrictions on that if for example Lebron wanted to "retire" from the NBA and go make $60 million a year in a foreign league. A mandatory interview is more than 5-10 minutes. It's normally an hour after the game and you're backstage waiting for someone to finish before you take the podium. The interview itself is only 5-10, the process of it isn't. No one practices on game day(obviously) but if your rebuttal to my post that no team practices and they just sit around and wait for games, we need not talk about anything else behind the scenes. Tom Thibodeu doesn't hold practices?

Sight me other examples besides Thibs when it comes to practice. He has a bad rep throughout the league among players. Gee I wonder why that is could it be because most coaches don't practice as much as Thibs? Players make the decision to sign these contracts. If they don't want to play in the NBA they don't have to sign the contracts and are free to do whatever they want to do and can attempt to create their own league. Jordan could have tried to create his own shoe company back in the day instead of signing with Nike but he didn't. He made his own choice in that regard. Look at what Lavar Ball is doing with Lonzo Ball by creating their own shoes.

Your original post was basically a shot at capitalism in which you said Slavery is when you don't have possession of your own labor and restrictions on your freedom . By your logic everybody is a slave unless they are self employed and run their own business. Going by that logic sign me up for NBA slavery. It seems like the best type of slavery to be a part of.

[duncan2k5]

This is actually pretty stupid. Contracts are mutual promises entered into and supported by consideration. Players and teams are under no obligation to contract with each other and when they do, they do so willingly. Slavery is when you force someone to do work and generally at no payment. It’s just a stupid comparison. People enter into contracts all the time. We do it all the time. There is no slavery if you enter into an agreement and get the benefit of your bargain.

You do know that after slavery, there was a system where the former slaves could sign contracts to work on the plantations... And they couldn't work on any other plantation until the contract was up... They got paid very little (especially compared to how much money they were making for the owners), and when the contract was up it was called "transfer day" (or free agency) where they could sign new contracts for other plantations...? There were a lot more details in this but to historians, this was generally considered slavery evolved... Simply signing a contract doesn't indicate it isn't slavery... While I won't completely equate an NBA player to a slave, they do have very limited rights... For goodness sake they had the right to wear what they want to the arena taken away... That was just petty

[duncan2k5]

What were indentured servants? A form of slavery, but not called outright slavery and yes they were paid for it. And no they didn't own their labor. They couldn't just "walk away" either. And I'm using history examples for modern day because I have 3 degrees on the subject so let's not go there please. That's another ball game. Prince was making millions from Warner brothers and when he was calling himself a slave during the 90s I thought, "this guy is worth millions, that's not slavery" and then I became knowledgeable on the workings of the world and what the term "slave" means. You can be worth over $100 million dollars and still not have freedom to do everything you want to do(that is legal of course). Yall need to get this out of your minds that the word "slave" - black person picking cotton on plantation.

Exactly

[james evans]

Sight me other examples besides Thibs when it comes to practice. He has a bad rep throughout the league among players. Gee I wonder why that is could it be because most coaches don't practice as much as Thibs? Players make the decision to sign these contracts. If they don't want to play in the NBA they don't have to sign the contracts and are free to do whatever they want to do and can attempt to create their own league. Jordan could have tried to create his own shoe company back in the day instead of signing with Nike but he didn't. He made his own choice in that regard. Look at what Lavar Ball is doing with Lonzo Ball by creating their own shoes.

Your original post was basically a shot at capitalism in which you said Slavery is when you don't have possession of your own labor and restrictions on your freedom . By your logic everybody is a slave unless they are self employed and run their own business. Going by that logic sign me up for NBA slavery. It seems like the best type of slavery to be a part of.

no everyone isn't a slave that's employed by someone else. Especially if you have input and can indeed just walk away and do the same thing for someone else. NBA players under contracts can't just wake up on a monday and walk away from the NBA and then go play ball in another league for millions. And once again, I have no problem whatsoever with capitalism.

[cd98]

You do know that after slavery, there was a system where the former slaves could sign contracts to work on the plantations... And they couldn't work on any other plantation until the contract was up... They got paid very little (especially compared to how much money they were making for the owners), and when the contract was up it was called "transfer day" (or free agency) where they could sign new contracts for other plantations...? There were a lot more details in this but to historians, this was generally considered slavery evolved... Simply signing a contract doesn't indicate it isn't slavery... While I won't completely equate an NBA player to a slave, they do have very limited rights... For goodness sake they had the right to wear what they want to the arena taken away... That was just petty

You do know that NBA players are represented by high powered lawyers in negotiations over their contracts. Any comparison to plantation farmers post slavery is an insult. Players sign the contracts willingly and with more knowledge than you do when you sign up for cell service. Please stop perpetuating this nonsense.

[cd98]

Gee every employment contract limits where you can work during the term of the contract. If NBA players want to play basketball elsewhere, let themm negotiate an option that allows them to go to Europe. European players have those options placed in their contracts. This idea that it is slavery bc you sign to play somewhere for 5 years and then can’t play anywhere else during the 5 years reaks of people never having real world experience. All employment contracts work that way.

[cd98]

no everyone isn't a slave that's employed by someone else. Especially if you have input and can indeed just walk away and do the same thing for someone else. NBA players under contracts can't just wake up on a monday and walk away from the NBA and then go play ball in another league for millions. And once again, I have no problem whatsoever with capitalism.

They could if they negotiated it. It’s unheard of bc no one wants to opt out of the NBA to play overseas. But Euro players have options that let them out of a contract to play in the NBA.

[ducks]

How is he being unprofessional by sitting out? THE GUY IS INJURED!! wtf!?

Not by spurs doctors
He is healthy
Not taking a side for spurs him
Just pointing out a fact though

[r0drig0lac]

In Tony's defense, he's probably the worst teammate of all time, tbh... there's plenty of do ented cases, besides the Brent Barry situation, the bottle at the night club, his comments that the Spurs will likely never win another ring, giving away a compe ive advantage at the Finals... he's just probably oblivious to it...

do not forget the comment about heat's defense on Danny in 2013

[Hoops Czar]

do not forget the comment about heat's defense on Danny in 2013

Has he ever fully recovered from that?

[UZER]

Wow, Barry never even threw shade at Parker.

[Hoops Czar]

In Tony's defense, he's probably the worst teammate of all time, tbh... there's plenty of do ented cases, besides the Brent Barry situation, the bottle at the night club, his comments that the Spurs will likely never win another ring, giving away a compe ive advantage at the Finals... he's just probably oblivious to it...

This post deserves a pity response unfortunately, I'm all out of Pity.