Woj: Spurs Held Players-Only Meeting to Implore Kawhi's Potential Return to Lineup

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You said it urself... It makes no sense he is doing this for a big pay day... So could it be possible that... Hmmm.... He is ACTUALLY HURT!?? smh... Who do you trust more? Your doctor? Or your body? If ur doctor tells you nothing is wrong, but you feel pain in the area... You're gonna think ur body is lying to you? Or that the doctor isn't perfect?

Either way it doesn’t matter he either has a chronic injury or he is a head case. Don’t want him and fine with trading him if we can get good value cause I don’t want to deal with Rose JR. Anymore.

[daslicer]

You said it urself... It makes no sense he is doing this for a big pay day... So could it be possible that... Hmmm.... He is ACTUALLY HURT!?? smh... Who do you trust more? Your doctor? Or your body? If ur doctor tells you nothing is wrong, but you feel pain in the area... You're gonna think ur body is lying to you? Or that the doctor isn't perfect?

Kawhi is the equivalent of that guy who gets into a car accident whose not at fault where the cause of the accident was through being rear ended. The accident is not serious but just some minor damage however the guy who was the victim of the accident claims to have back pain. The Doctor examines the victim and concludes there is no spinal damage or any broken bones but the patient still claims to have back pain. The patient on the other hand does not actually have any pain but is claiming to have actual pain because he knows he's going to get big pay day from the insurance company. This is how I view the Kawhi situation.

[Slippy]

Dude LA is a black hole... What are u talking about? When the ball goes to him, he rarely passes... There are times players are open under the basket off a double team and he shoots a fade away... But ok... Keep believing he is Duncan

Thought you only post facts. This isnt even close to how Lamarcus is dealing with double & triple teams at the latter part of this season . He & the team have become better at handling it. That includes the liability of DJ .

Its clear youve already got your mind made up about the
guy. & im starting wonder. Do you actually watch the games or just look stats only?

[San Antonio Slayer]

It's clear LA's fade away is a go-to-move just like bank shot was for Timmy. And it's also clear there is no need to argue who was a better passer. But Timmy had a much more skillfull teammates in terms of offense and there was no need for him to be the first scoring option. It's always been a signatured balanced offense. Current roster demands LA to be the first scoring option I don't think it's smart to pass the ball too much when you are supposed to carry such an offensive burden. The issue of not shooting the ball against doubleteams is not about LA too. I can't say he can't or doesn't pass when he gets doubled. Not a selfish player for sure.

[bklynspursfan]

It's insane thinking he's not injured/refusing to play for protecting his next contract/whatever...He already played this season and his quad wasn't fine.

If you ask me, I feel bad for Kawhi.

I truly believe he's injured. He lost a season where the Spurs could get NBA best record turning him into the favorite to win MVP, he lost everything, every NBA award, every All-NBA spot...

It's insane to think he fakes something to lose all those things.

It's also insane to think he deserves blame for getting a 2nd opinion. If his NYC doctors say he's not able to play yet, telling Pop that, I wouldn't blame him..It's his body and his career.

If you think no one -coach/gm- would want Kawhi on his team, you should wait until the offseason to know how wrong you're on this...

Personally, I have no issues with this. If he doesn't feel right he doesn't feel right.

My biggest thing is the not showing up for all games, or travelling with the team, and/or communicating with the team.

I know it's not his personality, and I respect that. It just feels like he could be doing a little more off the court while he's not on the court.

[duncan2k5]

Either way it doesn’t matter he either has a chronic injury or he is a head case. Don’t want him and fine with trading him if we can get good value cause I don’t want to deal with Rose JR. Anymore.

We didn't act like that when Duncan had planar fascitis... You guys just done like Kawhi... It's not about him actually being hurt... Because if any of our big 3 had a lingering injury, you all would give them the benefit of the doubt, and not want them to be gone from the team

[duncan2k5]

Kawhi is the equivalent of that guy who gets into a car accident whose not at fault where the cause of the accident was through being rear ended. The accident is not serious but just some minor damage however the guy who was the victim of the accident claims to have back pain. The Doctor examines the victim and concludes there is no spinal damage or any broken bones but the patient still claims to have back pain. The patient on the other hand does not actually have any pain but is claiming to have actual pain because he knows he's going to get big pay day from the insurance company. This is how I view the Kawhi situation.

False equivalency... Kawhi isn't gonna get pla big payday because he is injured... He would be getting one because of great play... There is no money move by sitting out an entire NBA season... This isn't football...

[duncan2k5]

Thought you only post facts. This isnt even close to how Lamarcus is dealing with double & triple teams at the latter part of this season . He & the team have become better at handling it. That includes the liability of DJ .

Its clear youve already got your mind made up about the
guy. & im starting wonder. Do you actually watch the games or just look stats only?

So you've never seen LMA look off open players when he gets the ball? If not, you must be LMA himself

[duncan2k5]

It's clear LA's fade away is a go-to-move just like bank shot was for Timmy. And it's also clear there is no need to argue who was a better passer. But Timmy had a much more skillfull teammates in terms of offense and there was no need for him to be the first scoring option. It's always been a signatured balanced offense. Current roster demands LA to be the first scoring option I don't think it's smart to pass the ball too much when you are supposed to carry such an offensive burden. The issue of not shooting the ball against doubleteams is not about LA too. I can't say he can't or doesn't pass when he gets doubled. Not a selfish player for sure.

How is he not selfish when he left Portland because of his touches, and demanded a trade because of his touches? You guys have a warped mentality... Kawhi is selfish for being hurt and wanting to be 100%, but LMA isn't selfish for wanting off the team after not voicing his concerns for an entire year, then demanding a trade (after bombing in the playoffs)

[duncan2k5]

Personally, I have no issues with this. If he doesn't feel right he doesn't feel right.

My biggest thing is the not showing up for all games, or travelling with the team, and/or communicating with the team.

I know it's not his personality, and I respect that. It just feels like he could be doing a little more off the court while he's not on the court.

He HAS been communicating with the team though... Is pop and Danny Green lying? U want him to tweet his teammates so you can see? And since when does injured spurs ALWAYS travel with the team? Pop himself has told injured players to stay home... U guys are putting an unfair standard on Kawhi that never existed with our other stars...

[YGWHI]

Personally, I have no issues with this. If he doesn't feel right he doesn't feel right.

My biggest thing is the not showing up for all games, or travelling with the team, and/or communicating with the team.

I know it's not his personality, and I respect that. It just feels like he could be doing a little more off the court while he's not on the court.

Kawhi has been in home games, he even sat on the floor to look those games. Also, most times Spurs players rehab in SA and don't travel with the team until there are very close to play which it's not Kawhi's case.

I doubt Kawhi didn't communicate with the team at all.
Some players already said he called and texted them, obviously those players weren't Parker/Manu, there is a whole generation issue there.

You can bet your life that JSimms Danny Brandon know who is Kawhi's favorite rapper/what's his favorite song this year, if you ask Manu he doesn't know anything about it. I mean, knowing a teammate musical taste isn't a thing but can explain the generational issue.

And Pop knows everything about Kawhi. He knew what's Kawhi was doing, where was training since he traveled with Spurs' personnel, he knew what his NYC doctors said because they told him Kawhi isn't ready to play...

When there is a communication problem it's not just about only one part. Both sides have to show interest in improving their communication.

[duncan2k5]

Kawhi has been in home games, he even sat on the floor to look those games. Also, most times Spurs players rehab in SA and don't travel with the team until there are very close to play which it's not Kawhi's case.

I doubt Kawhi didn't communicate with the team at all. Some players said he called and texted them, obviously those players weren't Parker/Manu, there is a whole generation issue there.
You can bet your life that JSimms Danny Brandon know who is Kawhi's favorite rapper/what's his favorite song this year, if you ask Manu he doesn't know anything about it. I mean, knowing a teammate musical taste isn't a big thing but can explain the generational issue.

And Pop knows everything about Kawhi. He knew what's Kawhi was doing, where was training since he traveled with Spurs' personnel, he knew what his NYC doctors said because they told him Kawhi isn't ready to play...

When there is a communication problem it's not just about only one part. Both sides have to show interest in improving their communication.

Voice of reason... Smh... I was beginning to think I was on an island by myself... No pun intended...

[YGWHI]

Voice of reason... Smh... I was beginning to think I was on an island by myself... No pun intended...

Don't worry, bro. You're not alone. Stay calm and positive on ST is hard...

[bklynspursfan]

He HAS been communicating with the team though... Is pop and Danny Green lying? U want him to tweet his teammates so you can see? And since when does injured spurs ALWAYS travel with the team? Pop himself has told injured players to stay home... U guys are putting an unfair standard on Kawhi that never existed with our other stars...

It's possible maybe he's only communicating with guys he's close with , no? Idk.. Injured guys have also travelled with the team. It's not an unfair standard. He's doing 4 on 4 drills and what not, but there are still games he's not on the bench with the guys.

Im not anti-Kawhi, I just think there are things he can do to help the situation. Green and Pop have said stuff, but you can't believe there isn't genuine confusion collectively in that locker room

[bklynspursfan]

Kawhi has been in home games, he even sat on the floor to look those games. Also, most times Spurs players rehab in SA and don't travel with the team until there are very close to play which it's not Kawhi's case.

I doubt Kawhi didn't communicate with the team at all.
Some players already said he called and texted them, obviously those players weren't Parker/Manu, there is a whole generation issue there.

You can bet your life that JSimms Danny Brandon know who is Kawhi's favorite rapper/what's his favorite song this year, if you ask Manu he doesn't know anything about it. I mean, knowing a teammate musical taste isn't a thing but can explain the generational issue.

And Pop knows everything about Kawhi. He knew what's Kawhi was doing, where was training since he traveled with Spurs' personnel, he knew what his NYC doctors said because they told him Kawhi isn't ready to play...

When there is a communication problem it's not just about only one part. Both sides have to show interest in improving their communication.

He's at some home games, yes. I know he missed the Warriors game cause his daughter was sick. But im pretty sure he was absent from the Jazz game. I think he was there for the Wizards game. It just seems sporadic.

I agree about the rest, but the team was obviously reeling at times and seemed legit confused on the whole situation. So even tho they share different musical interests and stuff, there could have been some clarity provided. It seems like they haven't had clarity until Pop said he'd be surprised if Kawhi was back at all, and he planted that seed for the team to let it go.

[San Antonio Slayer]

How is he not selfish when he left Portland because of his touches, and demanded a trade because of his touches? You guys have a warped mentality... Kawhi is selfish for being hurt and wanting to be 100%, but LMA isn't selfish for wanting off the team after not voicing his concerns for an entire year, then demanding a trade (after bombing in the playoffs)

I don't know what was the trade demand about exactly but all can see more LA's touches carry the team this year very well, especially with such a roster. We would be doomed if he got traded last summer. He is not a selfish player, I can't judge his selfishness as a person since I don't know him as a person. I support Kawhi to the hilt until he is a spur.

[SAGirl]

He's at some home games, yes. I know he missed the Warriors game cause his daughter was sick. But im pretty sure he was absent from the Jazz game. I think he was there for the Wizards game. It just seems sporadic.

I agree about the rest, but the team was obviously reeling at times and seemed legit confused on the whole situation. So even tho they share different musical interests and stuff, there could have been some clarity provided. It seems like they haven't had clarity until Pop said he'd be surprised if Kawhi was back at all, and he planted that seed for the team to let it go.

There’s also the fact that media leaks have been giving the impression Kawhi was returning for some past home games with dates and everything. Then it didn’t happen.

Manu said they were all under the impression he wasn’t going to play again this season based on the updates Pop gave them and the mentality Pop asked them to have. After that Kawhi gives a press interview, plus there are leaks with expected dates. By Manu’s admission, the media circus changed their mindsets and their impressions. They thought Kawhi was going to play again this season just like many fans believed.

So they met with Kiwi to ask him if he was indeed coming back, among perhaps other things they talked about. It wasn’t a confrontational meeting according to some of the players who talked about that meeting. Kawhi was clear he’s trying to play, but he’s not ready and he can’t give a definitive date he hopes to be back.

So you do the math, the season is almost over and he’s not nearly ready to play. That’s all teammates needed to know to be ready mentally themselves. Now any leaks don’t mean squat.

[daslicer]

False equivalency... Kawhi isn't gonna get pla big payday because he is injured... He would be getting one because of great play... There is no money move by sitting out an entire NBA season... This isn't football...

He's still going to get big pay day for not playing the whole entire year and he got free money this year for not playing whether it's from the Spurs or some other team. My point was when I used that example is that I believe he is faking his injury and nothing has changed my mindset about it.

[duncan2k5]

He's still going to get big pay day for not playing the whole entire year and he got free money this year for not playing whether it's from the Spurs or some other team. My point was when I used that example is that I believe he is faking his injury and nothing has changed my mindset about it.

He would have been guaranteed a bug payday if he played, AND also an mvp... Him being out canceled out the mvp, and puts the big payday at risk... He didn't do this on purpose, and he has never given any indication he would... LMA seems like the type... Not Kawhi... Kawhi is a basketball junkie that clearly wants to be great.... He isn't going to throw away an mvp and a year off his legacy unless it was legit

[daslicer]

He would have been guaranteed a bug payday if he played, AND also an mvp... Him being out canceled out the mvp, and puts the big payday at risk... He didn't do this on purpose, and he has never given any indication he would... LMA seems like the type... Not Kawhi... Kawhi is a basketball junkie that clearly wants to be great.... He isn't going to throw away an mvp and a year off his legacy unless it was legit

Your right he wants to be great in LA. Yes he would throw away an MVP year if it could get him back home in LA.

[tholdren]

He would have been guaranteed a bug payday if he played, AND also an mvp... Him being out canceled out the mvp, and puts the big payday at risk... He didn't do this on purpose, and he has never given any indication he would... LMA seems like the type... Not Kawhi... Kawhi is a basketball junkie that clearly wants to be great.... He isn't going to throw away an mvp and a year off his legacy unless it was legit

Lololololololololokikoloooookiikioooo

[duncan2k5]

Your right he wants to be great in LA. Yes he would throw away an MVP year if it could get him back home in LA.

This makes no sense... He could play and simply not resign... That would even be the better option if he wanted to play in LA... The guy even said he wants to stay here... He didn't do the usual "we'll see" bullcrap nba players do

[daslicer]

This makes no sense... He could play and simply not resign... That would even be the better option if he wanted to play in LA... The guy even said he wants to stay here... He didn't do the usual "we'll see" bullcrap nba players do

Durant said the same thing a few years ago when he was in OKC and we saw how things turned out.

[djohn2oo8]

lol

[tholdren]

This makes no sense... He could play and simply not resign... That would even be the better option if he wanted to play in LA... The guy even said he wants to stay here... He didn't do the usual "we'll see" bullcrap nba players do

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