Spurs' Gregg Popovich responds to March For Our Lives, criticizes President Trump

[cd98]

Funny you mention "free speech", kind of like what the brave students who had to hear and watch their friends die are voicing that you so vehemently disapprove of and chastise.

At least you can admit that you don't care about them. Props for that I guess, though I'm pretty certain you would feel a lot different if it was your kid or relative who died in one of these now seemingly annual mass shooting events. If you have kids.


And you, no, I pay taxes and enjoy living here.

In fairness, mass shootings are actually on the decline. It's just when one happens it gets massive coverage. But it's true that none of us want us or our kids or anyone to go through what happened at Parkland or Sandy Hook. The problem with the rhetoric from the students isn't that they want to speak out with guns, it's that they are saying things like if you own a gun or want to own a gun, you favor kid killing and mass shootings. One they go that far, they are ripe to be criticized. It's one thing to advocate your position. It's another thing to smear someone.

[Killakobe81]

Again, I'll never own an AR-15, but you are in favor of banning all AR-15s in hopes that it might stop one incident and that is good enough to pass a law. First, if you ban AR-15s, that doesn't mean that the minority of people that would commit violent crimes with them can't get their hands on it and even if it is hypothetically more difficult, we don't know how difficult. Drugs are illegal and they aren't that hard to get. Also, when you start passing laws because it might save one life, then you go down a slippery slope. There are lots of things that could be banned if it could just save one life. Yet you wouldn't ban swimming pools or certain types of cars or any number of things that take more lives (intentionally and accidentally) than guns.

I'm not a gun advocate and I'll never own a gun, but I just think its bad public policy to ban something that has little to no impact just for the sake of saying you are "doing something." I favor any reasonable gun control that will be effective for stopping gun violence. If banning AR-15s meant no more mass murders, then I'd be all for it. But the problem is that banning AR-15s won't stop them from being accessible on the black market and there will always be other weapons that take the place of the AR-15s.

And even if AR-15s stopped the mass gun violence, you would move the markers. Let's say there is gun violence where someone shoots 3 people on campus instead of 15. Aren't those three lives just as important as the 15. So how do we stop those three people from being shot? What guns can we ban to stop that?

None. But 12 lives saved and 12 familes spared the grief of that sort of loss.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

The Cons ution has been amended plenty ...can and will be again. Women were given the right to vote and blacks the same plus civil rights. Quoting it doesnt prove anything, except what the current state of governance is. It is a living breathing do ent, meant ti be changed or they would not put a process in place to amend it. Its not the Bible.

Again, it is the second amendment and if you knew history, the 2nd amendment was regarded as one of the most vital to viability of our country by the Founders. Additionally, you are correct, amendments have been made, but again it would take a 75% vote by the states to repeal it. I wish you luck on that journey should you decide to take it because it will be the death of the liberal party. There will not be 75% agreement on that issue in my lifetime.

What did that stupid outdated fossil George Washington say "“A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them. Which would include their own government.”

[cd98]

None. But 12 lives saved and 12 familes spared the grief of that sort of loss.

Yes, but you could say that about banning just about anything that has caused a human to die. Your argument boils down to demonizing those that disagree. See you care about lives and someone that wants to own a gun doesn't.

[Killakobe81]

Your lack of understanding of our history and what the Cons ution means to our representative republic is appalling. The Cons ution is the highest and most powerful do ent in our country. You act like it is toilet paper written by fossils.

I will never understand the left's fetish with banning guns, I own several and am highly trained and skilled in using them and may save your ass one day. And how ironic that abortion kills many many multiples more of children every year but I dont see a March for Life to stop abortion. Leftist are hypocrites and the worst kind, the self righteous ones that will try and bully you with "think of the children" arguments and simultaneously ignore the fact that they support baby killing. But hey you dont see me belly aching about repealing your Cons utional rights to abortion (that doesnt exist). Imagine the outcry. Go read a history book please.

Banning one type of gun means all guns need to be banned?
What guns do you own? I have a couple guns, no AR15s .
if they ban those I can still defend my family if needed, and improve my accuracy with my pistols or go get a hunting rifle if i want a ranged weapon.

[Killakobe81]

Yes, but you could say that about banning just about anything that has caused a human to die. Your argument boils down to demonizing those that disagree. See you care about lives and someone that wants to own a gun doesn't.

nope never said that or support that. Just saying there is middle ground to be found if people are willing to compromise. I would never support a bill, president senator etc that would take away my handguns.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Banning one type of gun means all guns need to be banned?
What guns do you own? I have a couple guns, no AR15s .
if they ban those I can still defend my family if needed, and improve my accuracy with my pistols or go get a hunting rifle if i want a ranged weapon.

Lol, why would you ban an AR-15 (a hunting rifle, semi-automatic) when handguns are responsible for a very large majority of gun deaths. Doesnt make any sense. Shooters can do just as much damage with multiple handguns in a mass shooting scenario as a semi auto rifle. Maybe we should just outlaw murder?

As an aside, if you have ever been hunting and had to deal with a feral boar you would understand why semi automatic rifles are necessary. Those ers are mean and dont go down easily, takes several shots with high powered rifles to stop em.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

nope never said that or support that. Just saying there is middle ground to be found if people are willing to compromise. I would never support a bill, president senator etc that would take away my handguns.

Look, I know a lot about guns and banning a semi auto rifle would do nothing to stop these "mass shootings." It is simply for show, it is so people can feel like they are doing something, but in reality, it is worthless and only limits the freedoms given to us by our Cons ution and takes us one step closer to full on repeal of the 2nd amendment. No thanks.

[cd98]

nope never said that or support that. Just saying there is middle ground to be found if people are willing to compromise. I would never support a bill, president senator etc that would take away my handguns.

The vast majority of this country favors any laws that would limit gun violence. The problem is that what people propose won't impact gun violence. It's more about "doing something" or, for politicians, it's about demonizing the other side.

[Killakobe81]

Lol, why would you ban an AR-15 (a hunting rifle, semi-automatic) when handguns are responsible for a very large majority of gun deaths. Doesnt make any sense. Shooters can do just as much damage with multiple handguns in a mass shooting scenario as a semi auto rifle. Maybe we should just outlaw murder?

As an aside, if you have ever been hunting and had to deal with a feral boar you would understand why semi automatic rifles are necessary. Those ers are mean and dont go down easily, takes several shots with high powered rifles to stop em.

nah i dont hunt boars but my uncle does ...
and they are nasty no doubt.
The semi aitomatic component makes it easier to kill feral boars and innocent people too
Tbh i havent seen any comprehensive gun controls im 100% ok with ...im just open to finding some compromise.

[Nathan89]

What did that stupid outdated fossil George Washington say "“A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them. Which would include their own government.”

Long-term thinker that George Washington. Glad he set the precedent for two terms as well tbh.

On the other hand did he factor in the death of 17 kids? Surely that would change the equation drastically.

[Killakobe81]

Im sure Old George, Thomas and Ben were thinking of AR15s, UZIS, AKs when crafting the 2nd amendment...

[Spurs 4 The Win]

nah i dont hunt boars but my uncle does ...
and they are nasty no doubt.
The semi aitomatic component makes it easier to kill feral boars and innocent people too
Tbh i havent seen any comprehensive gun controls im 100% ok with ...im just open to finding some compromise.

The semi automatic component? Not sure what you mean there. All guns are semi automatic for the most part

[cd98]

The reality is gun control for the left is like Obamacare repeal for the right. Whenever there is a mass shooting, Dems jump all over the guns and demonizing Republicans (but not Dems in red states) and claiming they are complicit in the murders. Yet, when they have super majority and the presidency, what do these same warriors do...they don't pass one single gun reform. The same can be said about Tea Party people you jump up and down about how Obamacare is going to bankrupt the country and must be repealed, and once they get elected and have the presidency and congress, they have no replacement for Obamacare and they don't repeal it. Instead, these people that care so much about the debt pass a spending bill that even Democrats would be embarrassed to pass. The money funding these political parties push these positions to get people elected, but they are highly unlikely to ever follow through.

[Nathan89]

The vast majority of this country favors any laws that would limit gun violence. The problem is that what people propose won't impact gun violence. It's more about "doing something" or, for politicians, it's about demonizing the other side.

It's the "touch on crime" of this generation tbh.

[cd98]

Im sure Old George, Thomas and Ben were thinking of AR15s, UZIS, AKs when crafting the 2nd amendment...

I'm sure Old George would've liked those for the Revolutionary War.

[rastaspur]

Get off your knees.

Get your assault rifle and try to make me

[rastaspur]

I don't know about all that

Pop is articulate and smart. He is quick witted.

He also knows history very well. And can be a bully.

Tough to win an argument against pop imo. Its also tough to win an argument against trump. Totally different reasons and totally different styles.

But they are similar as well. Both are stubborn.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Pop is articulate and smart. He is quick witted.

He also knows history very well. And can be a bully.

Tough to win an argument against pop imo. Its also tough to win an argument against trump. Totally different reasons and totally different styles.

But they are similar as well. Both are stubborn.

Pop is quick witted certainly, he is definitely a bully, and I dont disagree with your comparison to Trump. But I dont really find him to be very enlightening. His shtick relies on his aura of invincibility from being an elite NBA coach, nobody really challenges him on the issues or anything he says. They play into his persona he created and he eats it up. He is quite arrogant and rude, and talks down to those who disagree with him instead of trying to use logical or fact based arguments.

[rastaspur]

Pop is quick witted certainly, he is definitely a bully, and I dont disagree with your comparison to Trump. But I dont really find him to be very enlightening. His shtick relies on his aura of invincibility from being an elite NBA coach, nobody really challenges him on the issues or anything he says. They play into his persona he created and he eats it up. He is quite arrogant and rude, and talks down to those who disagree with him instead of trying to use logical or fact based arguments.

Fair points.

If he doesnt consider someone to be his intellectuall equal he can dismiss folks and be a straight .

So patience and superiority complexes are problably similar traits as well.

[SouthTexasRancher]

Hey Pop, just how many damn miles did your stinking old ass march on Saturday? You are nothing more than an idiotic, imbecilic, moronic ignoramus who is out of touch with today's NBA. Why is it that none of the big name free agents ever want to play for you? Why, because you are an asshole with the personality of a pet rock. Or maybe that should be a pet boulder. It is past time for your sorry ol' senile, dementia and Alzheimer's laden empty noggin' to retire to the old folks home where your liberal ass friends can come visit and you can suck their little weenie. You've been out coached this season by about 20 coaches who've made you look like a silly fool. You are nothing without Timmy, David and Kawhi. This team you and the drunk, have put together couldn't beat a 7th grade church league girls team. So the next time there is some gay liberal march I want to see your pock marked face marching with the LaLa Land crowd. In the meantime you can go to as far as I'm concerned.

[ElNono]

That is true for most things but there are undeniable uses for guns beyond "I like them". That's all smokers can say(besides government being overly restrictive). The all drinkers of alcohol can say. But that's not all you can say about guns.

Likewise I think the excuses for banning guns are pretty laughable. Just say "I don't like guns". That's the reality. Just say what you mean and get over it.

Actually, a daily glass of red wine is good for your heart...

[ElNono]

At least with alcohol we can say we tried and it didn't work out, tbh...

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Your lack of understanding of our history and what the Cons ution means to our representative republic is appalling. The Cons ution is the highest and most powerful do ent in our country. You act like it is toilet paper written by fossils.

I will never understand the left's fetish with banning guns, I own several and am highly trained and skilled in using them and may save your ass one day. And how ironic that abortion kills many many multiples more of children every year but I dont see a March for Life to stop abortion. Leftist are hypocrites and the worst kind, the self righteous ones that will try and bully you with "think of the children" arguments and simultaneously ignore the fact that they support baby killing. But hey you dont see me belly aching about repealing your Cons utional rights to abortion (that doesnt exist). Imagine the outcry. Go read a history book please.

There was much debate about the meaning of militia in the part you conveniently don't quote in the Federalist and such ie where Madison etc would argue and explain the cons ution and bill of rights.

I know you think it is cut and dry because you are parroting NRA propaganda but it isn't. The whole check on tyranny that you buffoons like to wave your hands at was discussed in the ability of static armed militias to counter tyrants. It wasn't Red Dawn they were thinking. Nevermind they loathed the idea of a standing national army and how modern day conservatives are clueless towards intent.

That is why they included the well regulated language because the intent was not a free for all.

Then of course there is the idea of competing rights. The right to bear arms is enumerated but so is the right to life and the obligation of the state to maintain security. It's all in the cons ution. Personally I think they need to close the corporate loophole and put semiautos with the tanks, autos, grenades and rocket launchers.

If you cannot protect your family with a pump action shotgun or a revolver then you have no business with any weapon at all and should jsut call po-po.

[Killakobe81]

There was much debate about the meaning of militia in the part you conveniently don't quote in the Federalist and such ie where Madison etc would argue and explain the cons ution and bill of rights.

I know you think it is cut and dry because you are parroting NRA propaganda but it isn't. The whole check on tyranny that you buffoons like to wave your hands at was discussed in the ability of static armed militias to counter tyrants. It wasn't Red Dawn they were thinking. Nevermind they loathed the idea of a standing national army and how modern day conservatives are clueless towards intent.

That is why they included the well regulated language because the intent was not a free for all.

Then of course there is the idea of competing rights. The right to bear arms is enumerated but so is the right to life and the obligation of the state to maintain security. It's all in the cons ution. Personally I think they need to close the corporate loophole and put semiautos with the tanks, autos, grenades and rocket launchers.

If you cannot protect your family with a pump action shotgun or a revolver then you have no business with any weapon at all and should jsut call po-po.

exactly ...