Honestly, I agree with the middle part. I don’t know why I was picked. But I was picked. It’s be cool if you knew, I think. Just for the sake that we would have less arguments on this matter (which have gone on forever).
But for whatever reason (& I believe God has His reason & it’s a Good reason) you weren’t picked to know.
Yeah but that smile is indicative that I have no fear in the face of imminent or otherwise Evil made against me. Because I know that Good—& the knowledge that there is a Good & there is an Evil & there is a Judge who will judge us on where our loyalties are—always defeats Evil. IOW, if my loyalties are with Good, I have no fear of anything.
It's applicable because it demonstrates a flaw in the improbability argument.
Roll a die 10 times. You had a 1 in 60 million chance of rolling that sequence. How did you defy the odds... how was that pure happenstance/accident??!?
Uh huh
The only thing I & anyone else who knows like I do actually have to lose is God. Losing God is the only fear. Because losing God means fearing Evil, which doesn’t allow you to eliminate it.
Totally not crazy
I will give you props for finally getting brave and saying what you believe in. You knew I'd make fun of you and you still did it.
I always get a kick out of how hard people work at .....I don't believe so you shouldn't either......hahahaha~~~~~ Why would anyone give a damn?
Has anyone ever read.....ok ok ya changed my mind.....on the internet? That has never happened so why people worry so damn much about what others believe.......???????????????
I do know it's far better being around those with a God than those without one.
Somebody read "kids" in the subject and showed up... no surprises there...
I see. Well, I dunno if it comes down to odds as you'd put it; but if that is how you want to see it, then you're making my case about the odds of it all working out just so right without the hand of province.It's applicable because it demonstrates a flaw in the improbability argument.
Roll a die 10 times. You had a 1 in 60 million chance of rolling that sequence. How did you defy the odds
Been answered, head.
Dude, did you ever read what started all that stupid bull ? It was me talking about sick ass pedos and how ya shoot those sick s.
Dude, don't be an idiot,ok?
There is nothing anywhere with me saying anyting other than ya shoot sick ass pedos.
You fell for the en vogue ST ploy of calling someone a pedo for a reaction, tbh. In the future don't bother, bro. I mean, you're still kind of a jackass. But just some friendly advice cos only wankers are doing this pedo schtick.
I said "somebody" and he completely owned it up, tbh... they don't call him The Terror of Olongapo for nothing, tbh...
Still haven't seen one self promoting pedo post on ST for all the talk of it, tbh.
Nah you’re just missing the point. The whole “incredible odds/accident” talk only makes sense if there was a predetermined outcome. Otherwise, all outcomes are equally unimpressive
It is a predetermined outcome. The ingredients for self sustaining life are quite precise as science has shown.
who predetermined it
Who said it’s predetermined. For all we know, life doesn’t exist outside of earth. To think the whole history of the universe was predetermined so one planet in one solar system in one galaxy could have life for a relatively short period of time is pretty silly. We really aren’t that significant in the scheme of things
I was using predetermined in the context you used it; that certain conditions would need to be met for life. You're now trying to shift to fatalism (which really has no bearing on the debate, tbh).
It's not who, it's how... you can opine that everything is predetermined, but in order for it to be science, you have to show the observable/testable theory. If it has no testable/observable properties, it's simply not science, it's just some imaginary construction where you can replace 'god' with 'spaghetti monster' with 'aliens', etc etc etc
That’s not the context i was using. Think of the dice example. It’s not remarkable to roll a certain sequence unless you knew what sequence you were trying to roll before doing so. That’s what i am taking about when i say predetermined.
The fact that so many things had to go right for life to exist on earth is only remarkable if the universe was aiming for that particular result. We’re not that important
Your dice example is utterly re ed from the God standpoint in that it leaves it up to chance. Thus you would be speaking of it in terms of scientific happenstance as it relates to evolution. I agree that the belief in such happenstance is lunacy.
You are agreeing with nobody but yourself. The dice thought project is meant to show that viewing events by their probability after the fact is flawed approach. The odds only matter if you are trying to get to a predetermined result.
ie flipping a coin 10 times and getting heads, heads, tails, heads, tails, tails, heads, tails, heads, tails isn’t remarkable. You wouldn’t think “what are the odds i got those results purely by happenstance.” You only would say that if before you flipped the coin you decided that you wanted to roll exactly heads heads tails heads tails tails heads tails heads tails.
The fact that you think there are odds to begin with is wherein you go wrong. The conditions for human life independent of a deity are non-existent.
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