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    Barkley is the 1st player I've heard say this. Everyone else is tryna side with Kawhi an say sit out an do nuttin an get paid 19mil... All that look at IT situation, but last time I checked, they all say don't count another man's money. But you can say look at what happened to another player.

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    Barkley's right. I agree with him. Here's some of what he said.

    "If you can play basketball and you get paid to play basketball, you play basketball. I'm a firm believer in that. You don't worry about I might get hurt or I'm worried about my next contract. I think when you get paid to play basketball, you play basketball no matter what."

    He also said the grass isn't always greener on the other side.

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    Barkley is the 1st player I've heard say this. Everyone else is tryna side with Kawhi an say sit out an do nuttin an get paid 19mil... All that look at IT situation, but last time I checked, they all say don't count another man's money. But you can say look at what happened to another player.
    Yeah, all the others are saying "Kawhi guard that next contract, don't risk it". But he is being paid 19 million now to play. Somehow that doesn't count.

    What I like about Barkley is he'll tell you what he thinks. You may agree or disagree, it may enlightening or asinine but it will be genuine.

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    Barkley's right. I agree with him. Here's some of what he said.

    "If you can play basketball and you get paid to play basketball, you play basketball. I'm a firm believer in that. You don't worry about I might get hurt or I'm worried about my next contract. I think when you get paid to play basketball, you play basketball no matter what."

    He also said the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
    Thanks for transcribing that Ice

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    He's gonna be called a "Coon" for telling a black man to do his ing job that's he's getting paid 19mil to do.

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    Yeah I bet that fat gambler would have risked his career if he was in the same situation

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    so i guess Barkley has never been injured then? ppl are making huge assumptions...he talked as if it were fact kawhi wants to play somewhere else...the guy is just injured and wants to be 100% before coming back...even the spurs doctors agreed with kawhi's doctors, but everyone completely leaves what pop said out of the media...and u fans soak it up...ungrateful

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    so i guess Barkley has never been injured then? ppl are making huge assumptions...he talked as if it were fact kawhi wants to play somewhere else...the guy is just injured and wants to be 100% before coming back...even the spurs doctors agreed with kawhi's doctors, but everyone completely leaves what pop said out of the media...and u fans soak it up...ungrateful
    Shut up, Kawhi is a . An you too for making excuses for him. Don't post anymore today.

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    so i guess Barkley has never been injured then? ppl are making huge assumptions...he talked as if it were fact kawhi wants to play somewhere else...the guy is just injured and wants to be 100% before coming back...even the spurs doctors agreed with kawhi's doctors, but everyone completely leaves what pop said out of the media...and u fans soak it up...ungrateful
    I think at this point your posts are accomplishing the opposite of your intentions, and are driving people into the anti-Kawhi camp if they're doing anything at all. also, if it actually is chronic tendinopathy, Kawhi will never be 100% again, he's going to have to play at less than 100%

    Also did Kawhi ever say that he just wants to be 100% before playing? or was that just you?
    did Kawhi ever say anything about his injury to Spurs fans?

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    duncan2k5 = Kawhi, confirmed.

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    Barkley dropping truth bombs. Love it!!!

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    Shut up, Kawhi is a . An you too for making excuses for him. Don't post anymore today.

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    A little more on Spurs and Kawhi from Charles starting at 1;28 or so. Though nothing new either (Posting only for completeness)

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    Yeah, all the others are saying "Kawhi guard that next contract, don't risk it". But he is being paid 19 million now to play. Somehow that doesn't count.

    What I like about Barkley is he'll tell you what he thinks. You may agree or disagree, it may enlightening or asinine but it will be genuine.
    No doubt it will be genuine and impulsive. He's paid for blurting, not pondering and articulating. Very Trumplike IMO.

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    No doubt it will be genuine and impulsive. He's paid for blurting, not pondering and articulating. Very Trumplike IMO.
    ironically enough, this reads like a Trump tweet....

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    Shut up, Kawhi is a . An you too for making excuses for him. Don't post anymore today.
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    If Kawhi is cleared and okay to play and he’s not playing because he doesn’t want to get injured before his big deal is signed then he is in breach of a $19 million dollar contract and should pay it back, be sued, or suit up. I thought he was in NYC trying to get cleared by his doctors to play and working out in the NBA facility up there?

    Whichever it is I hope the team continues to dismiss this drama and keep focused on who they are and what they have. The distractions are not helping as Manu said.

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    so i guess Barkley has never been injured then? ppl are making huge assumptions...he talked as if it were fact kawhi wants to play somewhere else...the guy is just injured and wants to be 100% before coming back...even the spurs doctors agreed with kawhi's doctors, but everyone completely leaves what pop said out of the media...and u fans soak it up...ungrateful
    He didn’t say Kawhi was faking it. He was saying that IF Kawhi is faking it, that is wrong. He never made an accusation he said what he thinks about players who do worry about their next deal while being paid on a current one.

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    so i guess Barkley has never been injured then? ppl are making huge assumptions...he talked as if it were fact kawhi wants to play somewhere else...the guy is just injured and wants to be 100% before coming back...even the spurs doctors agreed with kawhi's doctors, but everyone completely leaves what pop said out of the media...and u fans soak it up...ungrateful
    Who is 100%? Is LMA 100%? Manu? Rudy? No one is ever 100%.

    The only question I want you to answer is this: Do you think the Spurs & their medical staff would give Kawhi clearance to play if he was truly injured and it could get worse or threaten his career?

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    This whole thing is just frustrating. This team healthy had potential

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    If Kawhi is cleared and okay to play and he’s not playing because he doesn’t want to get injured before his big deal is signed then he is in breach of a $19 million dollar contract and should pay it back, be sued, or suit up. I thought he was in NYC trying to get cleared by his doctors to play and working out in the NBA facility up there?

    Whichever it is I hope the team continues to dismiss this drama and keep focused on who they are and what they have. The distractions are not helping as Manu said.
    This is why I agree with what Barkley said and also the reason I have no problem with the guys on the team asking him if he plans to play. If Kawhi's sitting out for his next contract, then what about the 19M he is getting paid to play now.

    It's ing ridiculous how much money these guys want or need. The Spurs would have a shot at a Championship with Kawhi, maybe not a big one, but they'd have a shot. Isn't that what most people play for? That's my main concern/priority if I was playing. If I was told that it won't cause any long term damage by playing on a particular injury and I felt my team had a chance at the Championship (even if it's a small one), you can bet your ass I'd be out there on the court. I could maybe understand him sitting out if they have no shot at a le as you never know if the doctors are right or not, but IMO they do have one. Isaiah Thomas probably thought the Celtics had a chance to beat the Cavs and I think it was worth playing, and I'm sure he did too at the time. My reasoning is that you never know how many chances you'll get to play for a Championship, so you shouldn't throw away any opportunity to do so. You can't cry about it after the series is over and then say you regret playing. Live with it an move on. How much money do these guys need? To top all that off, even if you do sit out, you could get an even worse injury later on and never have a chance to play for a Championship ever again.

    Manu and Tony were right to ask Kawhi because both of these guys have always tried to get back to the court as soon as possible after any type of injury. I'm pretty sure that they are absolutely stunned on why he's continuing to sit out. They've both played through pain. They can't really fathom what Kawhi is doing. One example, looking back at the 2015 Clippers series, it seems like TP's hamstring was screwed and he probably shouldn't have been playing at all, yet he didn't want to sit out and continued to play. Meanwhile, Kawhi choked it up in the last few games of the series and instead of helping out TP who probably shouldn't have been playing, Kawhi seemed healthy and still vanished. YOU ING BET YOUR ASS THESE GUYS WERE RIGHT TO ASK KAWHI WHAT THE IS GOING ON.

    All those former players that are commenting on it without knowing the FULL details can go F themselves too. Stephen Jackson, Cris Carter (I know he was a great wide receiver), Shannon Sharpe (another great player) have their opinions, but in all honesty I don't rate any of those guys above Manu Ginobili, so IMO Manu can say whatever the he wants. If that hurt Kawhi's feelings, too bad. Manu's played with all kinds of injuries and one example is - even with a broken arm in the 2011 playoffs, he was still the best player on the court in the series against the Grizzlies. Would Kawhi play with a broken arm? These guys (I'm sure of it) are mind blown that Kawhi is sitting out with the specific injury (it doesn't seem serious enough to hold him out) he has, so that's why they wanted to know what is going on.

    Maybe Kawhi really is hurt and maybe he really is struggling, but if that is the case, he needs to open his mouth and talk. It's his own fault for being a freaking mute and saying nothing on the subject. He should have told them how he's feeling and what is going on. I'm one of the biggest Kawhi fans around, as I think last season with all the work he'd done throughout the years, it all paid off as he really turned himself into a legit Superstar, but I'm also starting to get mad at him. Duncan2K5 has started to piss me off with all his recent posts too. Kawhi has brought most of this upon himself IMO.

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    Who is 100%? Is LMA 100%? Manu? Rudy? No one is ever 100%.

    The only question I want you to answer is this: Do you think the Spurs & their medical staff would give Kawhi clearance to play if he was truly injured and it could get worse or threaten his career?
    He did play when he was cleared... And did pop just say the team medical staff agrees with Kawhi's?

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    This is why I agree with what Barkley said and also the reason I have no problem with the guys on the team asking him if he plans to play. If Kawhi's sitting out for his next contract, then what about the 19M he is getting paid to play now.

    It's ing ridiculous how much money these guys want or need. The Spurs would have a shot at a Championship with Kawhi, maybe not a big one, but they'd have a shot. Isn't that what most people play for? That's my main concern/priority if I was playing. If I was told that it won't cause any long term damage by playing on a particular injury and I felt my team had a chance at the Championship (even if it's a small one), you can bet your ass I'd be out there on the court. I could maybe understand him sitting out if they have no shot at a le as you never know if the doctors are right or not, but IMO they do have one. Isaiah Thomas probably thought the Celtics had a chance to beat the Cavs and I think it was worth playing, and I'm sure he did too at the time. My reasoning is that you never know how many chances you'll get to play for a Championship, so you shouldn't throw away any opportunity to do so. You can't cry about it after the series is over and then say you regret playing. Live with it an move on. How much money do these guys need? To top all that off, even if you do sit out, you could get an even worse injury later on and never have a chance to play for a Championship ever again.

    Manu and Tony were right to ask Kawhi because both of these guys have always tried to get back to the court as soon as possible after any type of injury. I'm pretty sure that they are absolutely stunned on why he's continuing to sit out. They've both played through pain. They can't really fathom what Kawhi is doing. One example, looking back at the 2015 Clippers series, it seems like TP's hamstring was screwed and he probably shouldn't have been playing at all, yet he didn't want to sit out and continued to play. Meanwhile, Kawhi choked it up in the last few games of the series and instead of helping out TP who probably shouldn't have been playing, Kawhi seemed healthy and still vanished. YOU ING BET YOUR ASS THESE GUYS WERE RIGHT TO ASK KAWHI WHAT THE IS GOING ON.

    All those former players that are commenting on it without knowing the FULL details can go F themselves too. Stephen Jackson, Cris Carter (I know he was a great wide receiver), Shannon Sharpe (another great player) have their opinions, but in all honesty I don't rate any of those guys above Manu Ginobili, so IMO Manu can say whatever the he wants. If that hurt Kawhi's feelings, too bad. Manu's played with all kinds of injuries and one example is - even with a broken arm in the 2011 playoffs, he was still the best player on the court in the series against the Grizzlies. Would Kawhi play with a broken arm? These guys (I'm sure of it) are mind blown that Kawhi is sitting out with the specific injury (it doesn't seem serious enough to hold him out) he has, so that's why they wanted to know what is going on.

    Maybe Kawhi really is hurt and maybe he really is struggling, but if that is the case, he needs to open his mouth and talk. It's his own fault for being a freaking mute and saying nothing on the subject. He should have told them how he's feeling and what is going on. I'm one of the biggest Kawhi fans around, as I think last season with all the work he'd done throughout the years, it all paid off as he really turned himself into a legit Superstar, but I'm also starting to get mad at him. Duncan2K5 has started to piss me off with all his recent posts too. Kawhi has brought most of this upon himself IMO.
    Kawhi has played through pain... The guy is INJURED

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    This is why I agree with what Barkley said and also the reason I have no problem with the guys on the team asking him if he plans to play. If Kawhi's sitting out for his next contract, then what about the 19M he is getting paid to play now.

    It's ing ridiculous how much money these guys want or need. The Spurs would have a shot at a Championship with Kawhi, maybe not a big one, but they'd have a shot. Isn't that what most people play for? That's my main concern/priority if I was playing. If I was told that it won't cause any long term damage by playing on a particular injury and I felt my team had a chance at the Championship (even if it's a small one), you can bet your ass I'd be out there on the court. I could maybe understand him sitting out if they have no shot at a le as you never know if the doctors are right or not, but IMO they do have one. Isaiah Thomas probably thought the Celtics had a chance to beat the Cavs and I think it was worth playing, and I'm sure he did too at the time. My reasoning is that you never know how many chances you'll get to play for a Championship, so you shouldn't throw away any opportunity to do so. You can't cry about it after the series is over and then say you regret playing. Live with it an move on. How much money do these guys need? To top all that off, even if you do sit out, you could get an even worse injury later on and never have a chance to play for a Championship ever again.

    Manu and Tony were right to ask Kawhi because both of these guys have always tried to get back to the court as soon as possible after any type of injury. I'm pretty sure that they are absolutely stunned on why he's continuing to sit out. They've both played through pain. They can't really fathom what Kawhi is doing. One example, looking back at the 2015 Clippers series, it seems like TP's hamstring was screwed and he probably shouldn't have been playing at all, yet he didn't want to sit out and continued to play. Meanwhile, Kawhi choked it up in the last few games of the series and instead of helping out TP who probably shouldn't have been playing, Kawhi seemed healthy and still vanished. YOU ING BET YOUR ASS THESE GUYS WERE RIGHT TO ASK KAWHI WHAT THE IS GOING ON.

    All those former players that are commenting on it without knowing the FULL details can go F themselves too. Stephen Jackson, Cris Carter (I know he was a great wide receiver), Shannon Sharpe (another great player) have their opinions, but in all honesty I don't rate any of those guys above Manu Ginobili, so IMO Manu can say whatever the he wants. If that hurt Kawhi's feelings, too bad. Manu's played with all kinds of injuries and one example is - even with a broken arm in the 2011 playoffs, he was still the best player on the court in the series against the Grizzlies. Would Kawhi play with a broken arm? These guys (I'm sure of it) are mind blown that Kawhi is sitting out with the specific injury (it doesn't seem serious enough to hold him out) he has, so that's why they wanted to know what is going on.

    Maybe Kawhi really is hurt and maybe he really is struggling, but if that is the case, he needs to open his mouth and talk. It's his own fault for being a freaking mute and saying nothing on the subject. He should have told them how he's feeling and what is going on. I'm one of the biggest Kawhi fans around, as I think last season with all the work he'd done throughout the years, it all paid off as he really turned himself into a legit Superstar, but I'm also starting to get mad at him. Duncan2K5 has started to piss me off with all his recent posts too. Kawhi has brought most of this upon himself IMO.
    All these former players happen to be black and racially biased. They believe Kawhi is sticking it to the man by what he's doing. They don't give a about the truth because it doesn't make Kawhi look good and it hurts the narrative they are trying to push. They are all disgraceful in my eyes.

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