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    He did play when he was cleared... And did pop just say the team medical staff agrees with Kawhi's?
    You didn’t answer the question my man. We know that SA’s team has cleared Kawhi, but Kawhis team has not. Do you think SA would clear Kawhi if they thought he was injured and/or that it could get worse and threaten his career?

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    This is truly one of the worst things I've ever seen from a player in this league. To outright refuse to play is sickening. He is in breach of his contract and should be sued. I hope he is banned from the NBA. I'd rather have anyone else in the league than this sob pos.

    Any fan who is defending Kawhi at this point is not a Spurs fan. They are a Kawhi homersucker playerfan who doesn't give a poop what happens to this team.

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    He's gonna be called a "Coon" for telling a black man to do his ing job that's he's getting paid 19mil to do.
    Lol, by who? You?

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    All these former players happen to be black and racially biased. They believe Kawhi is sticking it to the man by what he's doing. They don't give a about the truth because it doesn't make Kawhi look good and it hurts the narrative they are trying to push. They are all disgraceful in my eyes.
    You’re gonna have to chill with that. First of all, most former players are black any damn way dude. If you play percentages that’s how it’s gonna be. They mainly talked about being former players and knowing their own bodies. Barkley is black and said he needed to play. Stop picking and choosing who you base your argument on. I’m sure you can find some white former players who are saying the same thing but you wouldn’t want to. So get out of here with that.

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    Shut up, Kawhi is a . An you too for making excuses for him. Don't post anymore today.

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    I've got a few questions to ask any of you- the first is a timeline question. Didn't Kawhi return after he was cleared and then the pain came back, but worse? Is this not when he went to the specialist in NY? Also unlike Tony, am I correct that the Spurs did not recommend surgery because they didn't think it was necessary. In answering DPG's earlier question I do not think the Spurs medical staff would knowingly clear him if they thought he could further injury himself. It could be he re-injured the same quad when he returned.

    Secondly I'm hearing Rose and Pierce saying they believe that Kawhi has played his last game in a Spurs uniform. How does that work when you are under contract for $20 million to play next season? Why wouldn't the Spurs and Kawhi want him to show his value before trading him to whoever they wanted to trade him to. Doubt seriously if they'll care where he wants to go.

    Sitting out this year he probably is going to need a "doctor's note" before anyone is going to just let him slide.

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    Shut up, Kawhi is a . An you too for making excuses for him. Don't post anymore today.

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    You’re gonna have to chill with that. First of all, most former players are black any damn way dude. If you play percentages that’s how it’s gonna be. They mainly talked about being former players and knowing their own bodies. Barkley is black and said he needed to play. Stop picking and choosing who you base your argument on. I’m sure you can find some white former players who are saying the same thing but you wouldn’t want to. So get out of here with that.
    I give Barkley props for being honest and not playing up this chicanery like these other clowns are doing in the media. The rest of these guys like I said before I believe are full of and are pushing their own racially biased agenda and I'm not going to change my belief on that. For example today Cris Carter admitted by accident that he was part of Kawhi's team and tried to make up a bs narrative that Pop cared more about the Spur 50 win streak than Kawhi's health. Stuff like that reinforces my belief about these clowns being biased. They have as much credibility in my eyes as Fox News does when it comes to being honest about Donald Trump.

    Anyways Kawhi's injury in my eyes is as legit as a guy faking whiplash in hopes of suing the car insurance company for money. If you don't like what I have to say in the words of Pop ''get over yourself'.
    Last edited by daslicer; 04-02-2018 at 04:10 PM.

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    Thanks for sharing. Pretty much echoes the majority of sentiments about the issue now, aside from the most hardcore player-fans here. this issue has been aired out pretty completely by now, with all sides weighing in, from Pop, to the players, to the front office, Kawhi's uncle, Kawhi himself, and now talking heads. The truth is out there

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    Yeah, all the others are saying "Kawhi guard that next contract, don't risk it". But he is being paid 19 million now to play. Somehow that doesn't count.

    What I like about Barkley is he'll tell you what he thinks. You may agree or disagree, it may enlightening or asinine but it will be genuine.
    Same people who say getting an education to play college basketball is not compensation enough...

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    am I correct that the Spurs did not recommend surgery because they didn't think it was necessary.
    What would they surgically repair, exactly? His quad consistently has looked fine on MRI/functional testing. No diagnosed sprain, strain, bone issue, nothing besides patient-reported pain (which is a pain tolerance issue). Would they cut up his quad and put it back?

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    What would they surgically repair, exactly? His quad consistently has looked fine on MRI/functional testing. No diagnosed sprain, strain, bone issue, nothing besides patient-reported pain (which is a pain tolerance issue). Would they cut up his quad and put it back?
    Theres nothing to surgically repair

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    You’re gonna have to chill with that. First of all, most former players are black any damn way dude. If you play percentages that’s how it’s gonna be. They mainly talked about being former players and knowing their own bodies. Barkley is black and said he needed to play. Stop picking and choosing who you base your argument on. I’m sure you can find some white former players who are saying the same thing but you wouldn’t want to. So get out of here with that.
    Barkley is an Uncle Tom, whose shtick is predicated on bashing "African-Americans" incessantly because he knows that appeals and ingratiates him to whites.

    He's right in this instance, but in a general sense tribalism has been a significant factor in the slanted coverage of this situation.

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    duncan2k5 = Kawhi, confirmed.
    No shes murray.

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    Just trade his punk ass and be done with all this drama .

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    so i guess Barkley has never been injured then? ppl are making huge assumptions...he talked as if it were fact kawhi wants to play somewhere else...the guy is just injured and wants to be 100% before coming back...even the spurs doctors agreed with kawhi's doctors, but everyone completely leaves what pop said out of the media...and u fans soak it up...ungrateful
    When somebody is injured, they either get surgery and there is a timetable for the return, or they rehabilitate the injury and again there is a timetable for the return. He has been rehabilitating this injury since the summer. He has not played a meaningful basketball game since last May. So he either has one of the strangest Leg injuries in history.. Or he is simply avoiding coming back for other reasons. Curry Has been injured like four times this season, and he keeps coming back. He will be back again in the playoffs. Do you honestly think this guy is that badly hurt?

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    I've got a few questions to ask any of you- the first is a timeline question. Didn't Kawhi return after he was cleared and then the pain came back, but worse? Is this not when he went to the specialist in NY? Also unlike Tony, am I correct that the Spurs did not recommend surgery because they didn't think it was necessary. In answering DPG's earlier question I do not think the Spurs medical staff would knowingly clear him if they thought he could further injury himself. It could be he re-injured the same quad when he returned.

    Secondly I'm hearing Rose and Pierce saying they believe that Kawhi has played his last game in a Spurs uniform. How does that work when you are under contract for $20 million to play next season? Why wouldn't the Spurs and Kawhi want him to show his value before trading him to whoever they wanted to trade him to. Doubt seriously if they'll care where he wants to go.

    Sitting out this year he probably is going to need a "doctor's note" before anyone is going to just let him slide.
    Any teams doctor will clear him. The Spurs cannot let hm hit FA next summer, and the longer you wait to trade him, the lower the return. I think he’ll be gone by the end of the 2018 draft. Who wants drama spilling into next season, too?

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    Shut up, Kawhi is a . An you too for making excuses for him. Don't post anymore today.
    Wow! That’s what it’s all about? Yo bruh.......relax!! lol

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    When somebody is injured, they either get surgery and there is a timetable for the return, or they rehabilitate the injury and again there is a timetable for the return. He has been rehabilitating this injury since the summer. He has not played a meaningful basketball game since last May. So he either has one of the strangest Leg injuries in history.. Or he is simply avoiding coming back for other reasons. Curry Has been injured like four times this season, and he keeps coming back. He will be back again in the playoffs. Do you honestly think this guy is that badly hurt?
    Seems like Kawhi’s “group” doesn’t want him in SA and has him convinced that he was misdiagnosed by Spurs staff. They are using this period to angle for his future in another city and Kawhi himself is conflicted.

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    What would they surgically repair, exactly? His quad consistently has looked fine on MRI/functional testing. No diagnosed sprain, strain, bone issue, nothing besides patient-reported pain (which is a pain tolerance issue). Would they cut up his quad and put it back?
    Mine was partly a rhetorical question saying his injury was not one that could be repaired with surgery like Tony's, who has said they were the same, but his was "100 times worse." I agree TP's was worse, but don't feel like the injuries are the same at all. That being said, I think there was something going on and the doctors in NY would unlikely risk their licenses covering for him. If it's simply a pain tolerance issue then I would guess his career might be over.

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    Any teams doctor will clear him. The Spurs cannot let hm hit FA next summer, and the longer you wait to trade him, the lower the return. I think he’ll be gone by the end of the 2018 draft. Who wants drama spilling into next season, too?
    He is under contract next season. He's not a FA. That's why all this he'll 'never play in a Spurs uniform again' stuff is confusing. They can trade him to whomever they want though...or not. We should hear the latest installation in this drama when we get a report on the newest finding by his doctors.

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    He is under contract next season. He's not a FA. That's why all this he'll 'never play in a Spurs uniform again' stuff is confusing. They can trade him to whomever they want though...or not. We should hear the latest installation in this drama when we get a report on the newest finding by his doctors.
    There will be no finding

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    says the guy that showed up to games drunk (in his own words)

    stfu fatass

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    Mine was partly a rhetorical question saying his injury was not one that could be repaired with surgery like Tony's, who has said they were the same, but his was "100 times worse." I agree TP's was worse, but don't feel like the injuries are the same at all. That being said, I think there was something going on and the doctors in NY would unlikely risk their licenses covering for him. If it's simply a pain tolerance issue then I would guess his career might be over.
    People's bodies for sure are different. Tony's is made of testes and steel beams while Kawhi's is made of teeny twigs and pussy lips

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    ironically enough, this reads like a Trump tweet....
    Bestest, greatest, biggest, everyone's talking about it...

    Now...
    Your post makes a tiny bit of sense.

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