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    So you're cool if the baker sells to "whites only" if the baker wants to.
    It's preferable to an intrusive government stepping in and forcing someone to do something.

    These types of things would be very rare. Even in the past companies would've been more willing to serve black customers but Jim crow laws forced division. The free market takes care of most of this .

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    Comparing not being able to force someone to make you a cake to getting stoned to death.

    Some people love themselves a big controlling government.
    Christian supremacist hatez gonna hate

    I want govt to protect us all from Christians and the oligarchy.

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    The media is the enemy of the American people.
    Except Sinclair, right?

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    Distorted views are going to stay distorted.

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    When the media leans liberal:

    The media is the enemy of the American people. If you don't agree you just like their agenda
    When the media leans conservative:

    Distorted views are going to stay distorted.
    “LIBERAL MEDIA IS THE ENEMY! THEY NEED TO BE DESTROYED!.........oh there’s also conservative media? *shrug* eh, what are you gonna do?”

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    Distorted views are going to stay distorted.
    give examples, please.

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    It's preferable to an intrusive government stepping in and forcing someone to do something.
    Yeah, I'm sure blacks would totally prefer it.

    You're a crazy loon.

    I bet you believe 9/11 was an inside job too.

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    When the media leans liberal:



    When the media leans conservative:



    “LIBERAL MEDIA IS THE ENEMY! THEY NEED TO BE DESTROYED!.........oh there’s also conservative media? *shrug* eh, what are you gonna do?”
    Fox and friends of the American people

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    Yeah, I'm sure blacks would totally prefer it.

    You're a crazy loon.

    I bet you believe 9/11 was an inside job too.
    You don't measure what is preferable like that. Free speech is preferable. Some people are going hate things that are said. For example a racist group marching. In the end free speech is still preferable.

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    I didn't say any media needs to be destroyed.

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    You don't measure what is preferable like that. Free speech is preferable. Some people are going hate things that are said. For example a racist group marching. In the end free speech is still preferable.
    What? The consensus is that the CRA is preferable.

    It's your single re ed opinion that racial discrimination is preferable.

    You're stupid. And arrogant to boot. I predict many lols coming soon at your expense.

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    These types of things would be very rare. Even in the past companies would've been more willing to serve black customers but Jim crow laws forced division. The free market takes care of most of this .
    They may be rare on the whole but I'm guessing you've never been to a town with a population under 5,000 and one bakery.

    If you allow one baker to discriminate you're opening up the opportunity for regional pressures to other business to exclude customers for the sake of religion. Christians boycott entire networks for having a TV show with a gay character, you don't think they'd boycott a bakery who provides product to the only gay wedding the town has had in 200 years?

    Companies not serving black customers wasn't just about those companies being racist and not wanting "negro money," it was about ensuring their racist clientele kept coming back.

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    I didn't say any media needs to be destroyed.
    Is Sinclair Broadcasting the enemy of the American people?

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    I didn't say any media needs to be destroyed.
    Hope not.

    Trump however, has actively taken steps to harm companies he views as hostile. Blocking Time Warners merger for one, and going to war on Amazon, because it is associated with WaPo.

    The right wing war on opposing viewpoints is about as undemocratic as it gets, and is worse than anything leveled on the left in the most fevered fantasies of Sean Hannity.

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    You'll probably get an awful narrative on all of them. I just know cnn best. That station was absolutely terrible for Bernie's primary campaign. Haven't watched much of them since then but they are always pushing some agenda/narrative.
    translation "Waaaah Waaaah baby go boom boom in diapey baby need diapey need changed waaah waaah"

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    Anyone care to discuss what Sowell actually said?

    You can all group together and issue a statement so I can avoid the pile you gots engage in.

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    Anyone care to discuss what Sowell actually said?

    You can all group together and issue a statement so I can avoid the pile you gots engage in.
    That couldn't possibly be productive than comments like the below. Or asking useless questions that one could probably figure out if they read everything in the thread. The art of deflection.

    translation "Waaaah Waaaah baby go boom boom in diapey baby need diapey need changed waaah waaah"

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    Anyone care to discuss what Sowell actually said?

    You can all group together and issue a statement so I can avoid the pile you gots engage in.
    I could indulge, especially his last comment is extremely disingenuous, since it completely obviates the fact that a TV sets used to be generally more of less an expensive luxury at the time (average price about $250, minimum wage back then was $1 current US dollars, about 250 salaries worth), whereas in 1990 the minimum wage was about $3.80 current US dollars, and a TV could be had for about $80 (more or less 25 salaries worth).

    Same thing with his first comment about single parent homes. It just so happened that divorce rates really ed up between the 60's and 90's... not just black people, but everybody:



    So, in actual context, it makes sense that happened.

    The problem with 'back in the day' anecdotes is just that, they're anecdotes. Without actually putting them in context, they're just meaningless.

    Also, OP is to the right everything he complains about the left, tbh. It would be actually interesting to hear his take on what precludes black people from meeting a demand of equality of outcomes...

    I'll continue to enjoy my white privilege while we wait.

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    Also noteworthy, Sowell comes from the Stigler Chicago school of Economics... Forefathers of Globalization...

    Gotta thread carefully there.

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    BTW, I have nothing against Sowell, I think he's a great author, but the world passed him by.

    As a society we moved on from the social conservatism of the 60's, the social taboos, religion's influence on society, etc...

    The fact that Trump of all people got elected as the conservative candidate pretty much says it all when it comes to social conservatism, tbh... just put the last nail on the coffin...

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    Anyone care to discuss what Sowell actually said?
    No. Much better to fixate on typos

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    "Liberals have wreaked more havoc on blacks than the supposed "legacy of slavery" they talk about."

    I guess he offers evidence but I'm not going to listen to him, is there a transcript?

    and You People (so-called conservatives) have done, evidence?, are doing (with WH, Congress, SCOTUS control) what for blacks, eg, since 1990?
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    So you're cool if the baker sells to "whites only" if the baker wants to.
    Doesn't seem much different than the Indian preference applied help wanted ads..........

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    Doesn't seem much different than the Indian preference applied help wanted ads..........
    Nope, that's much different.

    The similarity would be if you denied Native Americans employment specifically because they are Native Americans.

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    That couldn't possibly be productive than comments like the below. Or asking useless questions that one could probably figure out if they read everything in the thread. The art of deflection.
    Is Sinclair Broadcasting the enemy of the American people?

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