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    What does it mean that almost all the white house interns were white?

    You are not even remotely interested in a discussion unless it's what you want to hear. Positing critical thinking questions upon suppositions is beyond asinine.

    BTW, this is no surprise to anyone with a room temp IQ. Republicans have never made significant inroads with minorities. It's only been the status for the last 80 years or so.

    Of course, it's important now that you're pissed beyond reason that the Dems couldn't mount an effective presidential campaign.

    I've watched you raise the forcefield of derision more in the last year than the entire time I've read your posts. Frankly, it's been hard to watch. You're better than this...or you were.
    What I am interested here is in getting people to think a bit outside their box. I have been trying here to be careful, patient and respectful.

    You of all conservatives here should understand critical thinking. Let's acknowledge that yes, "Republicans have never made significant inroads with minorities. It's only been the status for the last 80 years or so."

    What does it mean for the country?

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    Now what does that mean that so few people with melanin have such a commitment?

    It means that people with melanin don't pursue careers in Law or Political Science (fields of study that are likely to apply for political internships).

    Lawyers with melanin in 2017: 4.28% (https://www.nalp.org/uploads/2017NAL...USLawFirms.pdf)

    APSA Members with melanin in 2017: 3.56% (http://www.apsanet.org/Portals/54/di...-29-134427-467)

    So, if half of that population is Conservative, we should expect to see 2% of Trump interns with melanin. Which is about what we see. I count 1.5/91 people with melanin.

    Are you trying to say that Trump is the reason so few people with melanin pursue careers in Law or Political Science?
    That again, is a statement of some fact, i.e. "that people with melanin don't pursue careers in Law or Political Science", and not really what such a thing implies, and certainly not relevant to the subject of interns at the current White House.

    •Are currently enrolled in an undergraduate or graduate degree program at a college, community college, or university (two-to-four year ins ution).

    •Have graduated from an undergraduate or graduate degree program at a college, community college, or university (two-to-four year ins ution) no more than two years before the internship program start date.
    •Are a veteran of the United States Armed Forces who possesses a high school diploma or its equivalent and has served on active duty–for any length of time–in the two years preceding the internship program start date.
    Now, please, try once more:

    What does it mean that so few young people of color are interning at the current White House? What are the implications, both present and future?

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    Why might the lack of diversity in the Trump internship program be a problem in and of itself?

    [TeyshaBlue criticism of RG personally]

    Fair enough. The question remains, and it is perfectly fair and relevant to ask, regardless of any of my personal faults.

    That you can't, or seemingly won't answer it is not on me. It is on you.

    Why might the lack of diversity in the Trump internship program be a problem in and of itself?
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    To cause the result of only white people getting hired, one of two things had to happen:

    Only white people were seriously considered.
    Only white people applied.

    What are the implications, to you, of either?



    Seems the implication is the left is using fear mongering and bullying tactics very effectively.
    You are addressing the possible cause of the disparity, but not what it ultimately mean to effectively only have white kids as Interns at the current White house.

    What does that mean for the country? For the Democratic party? For the Republican party?

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    Why might the lack of diversity in the Trump internship program be a problem in and of itself?

    [TeyshaBlue criticism of RG personally]



    Fair enough. The question remains, and it is perfectly fair and relevant to ask, regardless of any of my personal faults.

    That you can't, or seemingly won't answer it is not on me. It is on you.

    Why might the lack of diversity in the Trump internship program be a problem in and of itself?
    What's your answer to your question

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    Is the lack of diversity in the presidential white house internship program specifically one that the Trump administration is facing?



    Only 8-10% for Obama! How come it wasn't representative of the melanin peopled population?!?! How many times did you flip when you saw this picture? What did the lack of diversity mean for the country past, present, or future?

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    Seems the implication is the left is using fear mongering and bullying tactics very effectively.
    Anytime they put a female into a panel discussion she tries to browbeat everyone else by at ude yapping over any points being made.

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    You are addressing the possible cause of the disparity, but not what it ultimately mean to effectively only have white kids as Interns at the current White house.

    What does that mean for the country? For the Democratic party? For the Republican party?
    This is what happens when RG goes off linky posting script these days.... meaningless open ended questions who's answers receive disapproval as if it's a test "guess what I am thinking".

    Stick to posting regurgitated confirmation bias , RG.

    You cannot know what the lack of diversity means when there was never significant diversity to begin with. If Obama had diversity, are those interns now senators and congressmen? Do they affect policy? If not, what's your ing point?

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    Anytime they put a female into a panel discussion she tries to browbeat everyone else by at ude yapping over any points being made.
    Kind of like posters here that like to go straight to the ad hominem instead of respond to points being made

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    What does it mean that almost all the white house interns were white?



    What I am interested here is in getting people to think a bit outside their box. I have been trying here to be careful, patient and respectful.

    You of all conservatives here should understand critical thinking. Let's acknowledge that yes, "Republicans have never made significant inroads with minorities. It's only been the status for the last 80 years or so."

    What does it mean for the country?
    In the long-term not much. American society is not this monolithic structure made of concrete. It is dynamic, malleable, plastic. A better description would be silly putty which is illustrative on many levels.
    The continued marginalization of the GOP will be the end product of continued lack of minority participation or support. The impact on the popullance as a whole, is negligible in the long term. Short-term, it can give rise to feelings of disenfranchisement but results like this are largely self-correcting.

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    What's your answer to your question
    I will refrain from answering it for now. I prefer not affecting others' answers one way or another.

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    I will refrain from answering it for now. I prefer not affecting others' answers one way or another.
    Smh

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    What does it mean that almost all the white house interns were white?
    ...

    [re-stated]

    What does it mean for the country?

    In the long-term not much. American society is not this monolithic structure made of concrete. It is dynamic, malleable, plastic. A better description would be silly putty which is illustrative on many levels.
    The continued marginalization of the GOP will be the end product of continued lack of minority participation or support. The impact on the popullance as a whole, is negligible in the long term. Short-term, it can give rise to feelings of disenfranchisement but results like this are largely self-correcting.
    Thank you. Out of all the regulars here that self-identify as conservative, I would expect you to be the first to answer the question meaningfully and directly.

    I am not sure I fully understand you though, what do you mean by "continued marginalization of the GOP"?

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    If my goal is to get others to stretch themselves and think, why would I spoon feed them answer formats?

    If my goal is to see what and how people think, wouldn't any answer I give affect that?

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    What does it mean that almost all the white house interns were white?
    ...

    [re-stated]

    What does it mean for the country?



    Thank you. Out of all the regulars here that self-identify as conservative, I would expect you to be the first to answer the question meaningfully and directly.

    I am not sure I fully understand you though, what do you mean by "continued marginalization of the GOP"?
    There's no question that the Republican base is shrinking. Current GOP leadership will continue to magnify that trend. Unless there are some major shifts with the moderate voices within the GOP, the party will be largely toothless in a decade or so.

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    If my goal is to get others to stretch themselves and think, why would I spoon feed them answer formats?

    If my goal is to see what and how people think, wouldn't any answer I give affect that?
    You're acting like there's a text book answer here and you'd the one holding the answer key.

    Can't imagine many people wanting to play your condescending game

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    What does it mean that so few young people of color are interning at the current White House? What are the implications, both present and future?

    Is the lack of diversity in the presidential white house internship program specifically one that the Trump administration is facing?



    Only 8-10% for Obama! How come it wasn't representative of the melanin peopled population?!?! How many times did you flip when you saw this picture? What did the lack of diversity mean for the country past, present, or future?
    Is 8-10% more than 2%? Why fewer this year than in the year you pictured?

    8-10% of what ethnicity? Did you include non-African Americans? Asians? Hispanic? How did you reach this number?

    What does it mean that so few young people of color are interning at the current White House?

    We have determined that self-selection might be a cause. Why is that important?

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    You're acting like there's a text book answer here and you'd the one holding the answer key.

    Can't imagine many people wanting to play your condescending game
    I have said there isn't any real "textbook" answer. I have my answer, but that is not gong to be everybody's answer. My goal is to get people to think, and a sense of curiosity.

    What specifically is condescending here?

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    My goal is to get people to think, and a sense of curiosity.

    What specifically is condescending here?
    Uh...yeah

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    There's no question that the Republican base is shrinking. Current GOP leadership will continue to magnify that trend. Unless there are some major shifts with the moderate voices within the GOP, the party will be largely toothless in a decade or so.
    So a party that seems to dissuade a large portion of young people from participating faces some demographic challenges. Current data on age and political views would seem to support that.

    As a Democrat, I think a "toothless GOP" is a bad thing. Healthy democracy requires more than one effective party, in my opinion. I would agree that there needs to be a shift in moderation for the GOP.

    Any ideas as to how to do that?

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    (shrugs)

    What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, Blake. I have gone out of my way to NOT be condescending. I have been fair and insistent.

    Is that what you mean?

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    (shrugs)

    What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, Blake. I have gone out of my way to NOT be condescending. I have been fair and insistent.

    Is that what you mean?
    I feel like this thread didn't go the way you wanted and now you're dug in and acting like you planned it turn into whatever this is.

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    What does that mean for the country? For the Democratic party? For the Republican party?

    This is what happens when RG goes off linky posting script these days.... meaningless open ended questions who's answers receive disapproval as if it's a test "guess what I am thinking".

    Stick to posting regurgitated confirmation bias , RG.

    You cannot know what the lack of diversity means when there was never significant diversity to begin with. If Obama had diversity, are those interns now senators and congressmen? Do they affect policy? If not, what's your ing point?
    It isn't a test, it is an invitation for you to think and discuss something.

    It would seem to me that you can know what the lack of diversity means, even when there was never significant diversity to begin with, which I am not sure is the case.

    How do you know that there never was "any significant diversity to begin with"?

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    I feel like this thread didn't go the way you wanted and now you're dug in and acting like you planned it turn into whatever this is.
    You are free to think/feel what you want, as we all are.

    You don't seem to want to answer that particular question, or any of the others relating to the OP. Why is that?

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    You are free to think/feel what you want, as we all are.

    You don't seem to want to answer that particular question, or any of the others relating to the OP. Why is that?
    I believe I did offer an answer. As have others. You seem to have your own answer that you're not willing to share. So there's not
    much point.

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