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I would say something like:
BOS Gets: Pau + Kawhi
SA Gets: Brown + Tatum + Kings 1st in 19’ + 1st from third team
Third Team Gets: Horford + maybe a throw in player if needed + 2nd round pick
Hayward has 100m for 3 years left with a horrible injury. No thanks.
I would say something like:
BOS Gets: Pau + Kawhi
SA Gets: Brown + Tatum + Kings 1st in 19’ + 1st from third team
Third Team Gets: Horford + maybe a throw in player if needed + 2nd round pick
On this, I hope that if Kawhi is really doing this for the reasons given, that SA does not trade. Make him sacrifice as much money as possible for his actions even if that means harming the team some.
Not only would Kawhi give up about 70M in guaranteed money, but if you don’t trade and he reaches free agency that would also limit his choices since only a few teams each season have max money available.
So he would lose 70M, only have limited teams with enough cap space that year to choose from and if other teams wanted him they would have to shed assets to open up cap space.
I think Ainge will offer a strong package but, there's going to have to be compe ion to get Ainge's best offer in the table. If Cleveland would get into the mix offering the Brooklyn pick then you could see a bidding war.
I still think he’s not traded until he shows he’s healthy.
well that's going to convince future players that the spurs will treat them well...
I'm just guessing here.... but if Carter is really as close to this as some suggest and deals are on the table then Kawhi's not really still hurt...or at least it's so my or it's not a concern to those teams.
Why would players be concerned with what the Spurs do with Kawhi knowing that if this is all true, Kawhi was a snake? You think they will forget about how they treated Tim, TP & Manu who are still there? How they honored their deal with Pau, Mills?
Kawhi and his team aren’t some power brokers. Most of the stars don’t even like Kawhi if you are to believe the reports. He’s not someone that holds sway and it would be a pretty easy picture to paint Kawhi in the wrong here with the Spurs long, storied history on how they treat their players.
Cleveland has the brooklyn pick and nothing else. Boston has tons of desirable assets.
That’s fine. I am sticking with the official channels bc there’s been too much BS flying around in the media. Not saying anyone is wrong or off. Personally, for me sticking with official statements for now. Spurs don’t really want to trade him to begin with.
This all comes from other FO trying to create rifts.
PHX is about to have the best asset: The number one pick in a draft where SA knows who will be available and has time to scout.
I don’t think Kawhi will be traded. I think he signs that DPE. He’s doing this so that what happened to Isiah Thomas doesn’t happen to him and to send a message to SA that he is not here to take less than the SuperMax so don’t try it.
There is a ton of BS out there one way or the other and we are all just speculating. If Carter is close to the Kawhi camp I think that's relevant but, I don't even know that he is.
doesn't matter if it's reasonable or not. all it takes is one player to look at the situation and say "man, the spurs did kawhi dirty, no way I wanna head there" for your move to backfire and hurt the organization long term. not to mention your plan involves us getting zero compensation for him leaving
There are zero reports saying most players don't like Kawhi... I swear most of ST is stupid
Nah - I think SA would be 100% fine in that department. Their history speaks for itself. Who cares if one player would view it that way, not a big concern. Plus, Kawhi as I mentioned, is not some power broker nor is his agency. Your mindset comes into play when dealing with a player/agent who are power brokers and rep many players. That is not the Kawhi situation. He’s on his own island.
I agree, the zero compensation thing is a legitimate decision. But I personally would say f it this time and stick it to Kawhi IF this is all true. IF this is all true its one of the most underhanded things I have ever seen executed in sports.
Cleveland can make a solid offer but, I'm not saying they can trump (no pun intended) Boston's offer. I am saying that Boston doesn't have to make their best offer unless they are competing with someone so Cleveland getting in the mix could persuade Boston to give up more assets if they truly value Kawhi. The same could be said for LA, NY, Denver and especially Phoenix. Basically, the more compe ion the better chance we have to get a favorable deal...or at least as favorable as you can get when trading a player of this caliber.
Yes there is. Windhorst reported on it.
I do think Spurs are queasy about the supermax bc Kawhi isn’t healthy and I understand Kawhi and his agency (which Carter is close to as they were his agents too) would be upset about that. I am sure his agency has some hardball of his own and might want to spread rumors to force the Spurs. There’s something else going on, there’s some truth to some things but it’s a likely fluid situation IMO and Spurs still hope he will be fine and they can move past this. I am not being naive or blind like duncan2K5 and assume things are peachy but it’s nothing that can’t get resolved.
The only problem that doesn’t have a real solution is Kiwis tendinopathy. Only he knows what’s going on with that and I am giving him credibility that he’s legit hurt.
You don’t trade Kawhi. You then also make him play for you next season and if he pulls this again you have a legit grievance you can file and expose him even more.
Lot’s to lose for Kawhi is SA says “we aren’t trading you”. Of course there are things to lose for SA (like losing Kawhi for nothing) but if this is true it’s worth it. Not that I would expect SA to do that, just saying what I would like to see.
I would rather have the Kings pick, Tatum and something more.
Yes, but thats not nearly as exciting as speculating on blockbuster trades with big market teams.
I hope there is a trade war.... for KL
Ew, no. People seem to forget that the Kings pick cannot be first overall.
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