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    Falling Down is arguably my favorite movie ever. Except I would have wrote a different ending. Oh well.
    Why? What was wrong with the ending?

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    Why? What was wrong with the ending?
    By the end of the movie you are rooting for Douglas and then he just dies.


    I watched that movie well over 20 times in my teens. One of those movies that doesn't get old.

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    By the end of the movie you are rooting for Douglas and then he just dies.


    I watched that movie well over 20 times in my teens. One of those movies that doesn't get old.
    great flick... i bought it twice on dvd back in the day. i'm a goober and thought i didn't own it until i brought home the 2nd copy and found the 1st a while later in my place. i wasn't even mad i owned 2 copies!

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    By the end of the movie you are rooting for Douglas and then he just dies.


    I watched that movie well over 20 times in my teens. One of those movies that doesn't get old.
    That movie got shafted by the Oscars if I'm not mistaken. PC police felt it wasnt the right tone given the LA riots

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    classic film son, I loved the late 80s/early 90s america, a ing GREAT country still doing good. Beautiful memories from california from back then, some of my best years When basketball was real, no feminism, working economy. To bad you had Reagan in office, that buffoon opened the door for the disaster you have right now. My economy teacher at uni ranted about this non stop but everybody was like "we got a concert going on and the lakers are going to the finals" Now these s are wondering how they got here, smh, americans are so short sighted tbh.

    Son are you ing kidding me, trump polarized the out of your population, I'm no Osama fan but at least that was competent at his job. And lol being a liberal, y'all s don't even know what the that means. Liberalism needs regulations to work properly, which are inexistent in the states, there is no liberalism there. What you have is economic extremism, which guess what, does nothing but bad. Anyway I like our hybrid nordic system model much more (not perfect but works good even with the immigrants) then any unregulated free trade system like the states. And lol at free without proper mechanism, just a scheme to rob the people.

    Trump is a ing trainwreck on all possible fields:
    - internal politics, scandals, russian involvment, how he fired like 25% of his team in under a year, how he is getting checked by legal branch, even the executive branch .. look like amateur hour tbh.
    - external politics where everybody laughs about him, got outplayed by north ing korea, manned up by macaron , most euro leaders treat him like a dumbass, euro is going away from the states politically, inactive on russia actions, jesus christ tbh.
    - got voted in by a nation of undesirables who are now getting the raw end of the stick with the tarriff war that is about to come. China won't be bullied because their position is excellent, and a lot of US industry is going to hurt like because guess what, you don't tariff like a dumbass without having a healthy heavy/agri industry to pick up the slack. Almost all of that industry won't help you average joe, because it's all owned by corrupt assholes in a country with zero regulations.
    - in a comical twist of events he takes a US economy that specialized to a service economy decades ago (based on the guarantee of cheap imports) and tries to increase protectionism on it ... that doesn't change the economical mechanism between the countries because there is no other option for the US to cover for all the high volume cheap imports needed (brasil? no. africa? no, india? no, europe? too expensive), so the population is indirectly taxed through this, making trump the president to raise the most taxes since ww2. Of course explain this to X or to soccer mom Y. Besides the elites, US is such an uneducated country tbh.
    - also he won by polarizing an already polarized political system in the states. Which is primitive and polarized by nature. So right now any sane (read centrist) candidate won't even have a chance and you'll get more of the same : hillary, palin, bushes, bernie. In the us there is no sane option because the people are both polarized politically but also en led and want to see stuff done fast. What the us needs is a cons ution overhaul tbh, y'all running a 18 century system in the 21st century and are wondering why is falling down.

    I could go on but Trump is an absolute disaster for your country. Honestly the only good thing that might come out of this is that people might actually try to vote more/smarter in the future. The damage Trump is going to do long term is just
    That same cons ution was the law of the land during your nostalgic 80s and 90s Los Angeles glory days when the United States was still a "great country." That said, I kind of find it odd you pick that particular era to celebrate when Los Angeles was basically a warzone due to the crack epidemic and the country was in recession.

    Your points on Trump are valid, he is indeed a moron who has no business holding any sort of office and runs the White House as if he's still hosting his terrible reality show, but you're wrong about the perception that the US is some free-for-all hyper-capitalist country with zero regulations. On the economic freedom index, our economy is really no or more less regulated than other OECD countries, Germany included. In fact, unions hold a -load of power to the point where blue collar jobs still pay exceedingly well (Electricians, plumbers, carpenters, welders, and even the last few million remaining factory workers all make >40.00 per hours plus benefits).

    What's probably affected the economic landscape for better or worse (depending your personal situation) is how large publicly traded corporations have shifted their business model to appeasing shareholders above all else, and usually over a fiscal quarter rather than over the long term. Basically, corporations will sell out long term growth (i.e. if said long term growth means a loss of profit in the short term, corporations won't commit in fear of scaring off shareholders), quality of goods and services, and civic responsibility (environmental concerns, buying up smaller businesses [which impact local communities] for no other reason except to absorb a compe or and increase market share, which increases stock values).

    The realisation has long been growing that modern governance, with its focus on the primacy of the shareholder, can deliver very perverse societal outcomes. As the US academic, Lynn Stout, has observed: “The pressure to keep share prices high drives public companies to adopt strategies that harm long-term returns: hollowing out their workforce; cutting back on product support and on research and development; taking on excessive risks and excessive leverage; selling vital assets and even engaging in wholesale fraud.”
    https://www.ft.com/content/b12be30e-...c-0cd3483b8b80

    ^^^Europe isn't immune, but the reason you probably don't "feel" the impact as much as we do is because the amount of multibillion dollar corporations in the US far exceed the amount in Europe.

    The former GE boss, Jack Welch, has called shareholder value “the dumbest idea in the world” and nothing in law ordains it. There is but one way to superior returns, and that is helping businesses make excellent products that customers want to buy.
    The shareholder primacy philosophy is what instigated all the outsourcing, since labor is often a firm's largest cost, translating into the destruction of Middle America's middle-class and the subsequent transition to a service economy, which in turn created fertile breeding ground for a populist mentality that eventually led to the nightmare we have in the Oval Office now. And why this demographic thinks corporate tax breaks are a good idea is beyond me. Yeah, in theory it sounds nice. Corporations can potentially use the extra revenue to hire more workers, but in reality, tax breaks are usually used for stock buybacks, which increase stock value and further enrich share holders. The "working man" sees none of it.

    On China. Trump's nuclear tariff option is a silly idea, but something needs to be done about their nefarious trade practices. They blatantly steal intellectual property, dump, and have the worst quality control known to man.

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