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    For all the justified credit that the Spurs’ “system” gets for the organization’s sustained excellence, that’s all gobbledygook without elite talent. The Spurs have always sought to maintain an edge by being ahead of the NBA’s trends. But when the rest of the league caught up with them in mining talent overseas, embracing the “pace and space” beautiful game, resting stars to prolong their careers and extend their primes, and relying on player development staffs to improve from within, the Spurs became more like everyone else. Never was that clearer than in the summer of 2015, when LaMarcus Aldridge became the first in-his-prime, All-Star free agent to pick San Antonio.


    To win in the NBA, stockpiling talent is a must. Super-teams are rarely built organically anymore; even Golden State, which became a power with three homegrowns, added an outside MVP to become a juggernaut. The Spurs didn’t have the advantage of amassing top talent through the draft because the downside of their Duncan-fueled success was picking in the late 20s every year. And, after trading George Hill for Leonard on draft night in 2011, the team has mostly whiffed on back-of-the-draft prospects. They also were too loyal to ever trade pillars of their franchise, such as Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker.





    Media realizing it was all Tim, tbh

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    5 les more than the Timberwolves, Suns, Utah, I mean it's hard to stay ahead in a copy cat league but they've always been forward thinking to an extent. But yeah, most of it was Tim

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    Too loyal to trade Manu? WTF is that got talking about. At no point did it make sense to trade him. Tony is a different story.

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    Where would we be without Tim duncan and Sam Presti (the real mastermind and the genius who discovered Parker)?

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    "Gobbleeygook", when it's literally better than a Minny team with three max guys.

    What a article and thread. Makes me feel bad for critiquing Pop and RC

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    Too loyal to trade Manu? WTF is that got talking about. At no point did it make sense to trade him. Tony is a different story.
    Manu type players are dime a dozen. Lou Williams, Jamal Crawford, Eric Gordon, etc

    Tony Parker is a Top 5 PG of all time. Never forget that son

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    Where would we be without Tim duncan and Sam Presti (the real mastermind and the genius who discovered Parker)?
    Tim would have won les in Orlando while Spur would be in New Orleans or Seattle.

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    Manu players are dime a dozen. Lou Williams, Jamal Crawford, Eric Gordon, etc

    Tony Parker is a Top 5 PG of all time. Never forget that son
    I don't know which take is tier: Porker being a top 5 PG of all time, or comparing Manu to one of the worst playoff performers in history, Jamal Crawford.

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    I don't know which take is tier: Porker being a top 5 PG of all time, or comparing Manu to one of the worst playoff performers in history, Jamal Crawford.
    All the top posters agree. http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=272591

    At the end of the day: Manure is responsible for Tim having 3 less rings on his hands

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    Manu type players are dime a dozen. Lou Williams, Jamal Crawford, Eric Gordon, etc

    Tony Parker is a Top 5 PG of all time. Never forget that son
    Tony and Manu are great players and shouldn't have been traded. I'm willing to take that hit unlike Danny Ainge did with the Celtics. That said, we can't sign Tony to a loyalty contract this summer.

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    This Michael Lee guy said Spurs should trade Kawhi to the Fakers. Most likely another hired gun of uncle daniel.

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    Random sports writer nerds bashing on the of the best run franchises in sports history for clicks. I wonder what any of these couch potato nerds ever did to start or run any business franchise.

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    Maybe franchises like the Spurs succeed because they reward loyalty and DON’T trade HOFers. This writer is a clown. There’s a reason he writes for Yahoo.

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    op-ed makes it seem so easy to duplicate and yet hardly anyone has duplicated.

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    The only part I took umbrage with was the Zaza reference. He’s basically saying SA pushed Kawhi to play against his best interest and that directly led to Zaza being able to deliver the “knockout blow”.

    What? First of all, SA sat Kawhi in a MUST WIN PLAYOFF game vs Houston the round before so that doesn’t make sense. Also, almost all players play unless its a terrible injury in the playoffs. How on Earth could you imply that SA didn’t protect Kawhi by letting him play vs GS (after they already sat him before in a playoff game just a week before) and then say that setup Kawhi for a bad injury?

    Ridiculous

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    Writer misses Spurs new angle to get free agents. Pop going outspoken liberal views and social conscious on racism. You think a guy with Matt Bonner on the roster for years believes in race theory? No, but he'll do it to recruit free agents. Steve Kerr is doing it as well. Other coaches are behind the ball.

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    When are the PATFO suckers from the Express News going to write articles like this? Must be difficult to look at the computer screen and write a Spurs fluff piece with Pop's in your eyes.

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    The only part I took umbrage with was the Zaza reference. He’s basically saying SA pushed Kawhi to play against his best interest and that directly led to Zaza being able to deliver the “knockout blow”.

    What? First of all, SA sat Kawhi in a MUST WIN PLAYOFF game vs Houston the round before so that doesn’t make sense. Also, almost all players play unless its a terrible injury in the playoffs. How on Earth could you imply that SA didn’t protect Kawhi by letting him play vs GS (after they already sat him before in a playoff game just a week before) and then say that setup Kawhi for a bad injury?

    Ridiculous
    Yeah, that's ing re ed.

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    We've won for 20 years with minimal headlines. Only the obligatory ones where you have to talk about us because we won the le.

    But now that we have a crap season (by our standards) and with the kawhi drama we have been in the headlines more than i can remember. At least it feels that way.

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    I'm all for calling out PATFO but this article is quite atrocious

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    I'm all for calling out PATFO but this article is quite atrocious
    I'm telling you. Reading this article makes me feel like a conservative looking over the Tea Party platform for the first time.

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    Yahoo sports

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    I'm telling you. Reading this article makes me feel like a conservative looking over the Tea Party platform for the first time.

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    The only part I took umbrage with was the Zaza reference. He’s basically saying SA pushed Kawhi to play against his best interest and that directly led to Zaza being able to deliver the “knockout blow”.

    What? First of all, SA sat Kawhi in a MUST WIN PLAYOFF game vs Houston the round before so that doesn’t make sense. Also, almost all players play unless its a terrible injury in the playoffs. How on Earth could you imply that SA didn’t protect Kawhi by letting him play vs GS (after they already sat him before in a playoff game just a week before) and then say that setup Kawhi for a bad injury?

    Ridiculous
    To me it seems like a bs justification his Uncle came up with for Kawhi's discord with the Spurs. I remember way back in the '05 playoffs when Duncan rolled his ankle against the Sonics in game 6 and him playing the rest of the game with the sprained ankle. After that game Pop said that he played Duncan because Duncan would have him assassinated if he had sat out for that whole entire game. I don't believe the Spurs would have forced Kawhi to play if he didn't feel he could play.

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