and after making sure he's in playable condition assuming he plays next year. If he doesn't, then they saved themselves from that risk and still have their assets.
It is the main reason Spurs will get bad offers. it sucks.
That's where we are, without question, assuming KL is gonna be shipped out. As much as I love LA, hes just not one of the top 10 guys you have to have to ring. He's definitely still someone to build around though, unless you can get great return.
I think if they can get some good young talent and some good picks, our turnaround will be short. Especially given some of our young guys, and the ability of PATFO to make some quality choices on draft day.
Unless they can lure Bron, you rebuild.
Twitter would like you to see this.
wow
I've thought this too. If I were in the shoes of the prospective presidents/GM's who have the requisite assets, my biggest concern would be either his seeming lack of emotional investment in teammates, coaches, etc. that he's spent 6+ seasons around and practically won 2 championships with, or the inability to realize that they and anyone not being tribal more than likely perceives it that way.
If he's that disconnected with them, how would he be among people he's unfamiliar with and in a bigger media market?
That would be terrible value. Late lottery picks, a younger version of Gay and cap space for who? If they could only land one significant free agent when they had a lot going for them (and even then, it mostly happened because he considers this home), they'd have no chance at that point . . . and you claimed I was the one who thought they should money ball this.
Karma comes back in weird ways.
Pop being a all the time and so damn condescending anytime he’s questioned, bull injuries to rest players especially for national games, all his damn pointless coaching shtick that have gotten worse over time, part of me thinks it serves him right.
Kawhi is still being a though.
I have never heard of a player in the NBA missing an entire season with an injury that did not require surgery. He did not even make an actual attempt to get out there and play on this quad. 9 games is nothing, especially because he was on a minutes restriction, and not playing in back to back games. He was being babied coming back, and he pulled himself off the court. But did he have surgery after that? No.. Just more months of rehab. Rehabbing what? Again he came into camp hurt. Nothing has ever made common sense about any of this bull ..
Karma doesn't exist. You live long enough bad things will happen to you in some form.
It’s just an expression man.
Pop is stubborn but he has proven over and over he has a big heart, and is a good man. His biggest thing is the obvious feeling that the media is full of idiots all wasting his time. I mostly agree with that..
The only trades they should make are for a top 2 pick this year, Ayton or Doncic.
If that doesn't fly, you force sit him all year and send him into free agency without having played in two years. Even better if he wants to keep rehabbing, suspend him for not reporting. Suspend him for conduct detrimental. Send him into free agency short a year of pay.
Even if he shows up, bench him still and send him away.
Don't screw around, and don't do other teams favors by taking peanuts.
Get value or get the most revenge you can.
Because without that top pick the team is set to spiral into a decade of trash and the lottery. RC and Pop will be long gone by the next time this team is a contender. Bring in Hinkie and get the process started. He was crap at talent evaluation but right in enough things.
No star free agent will ever give the Spurs extra consideration if they 'do right' by Kawhi. So do him wrong.
I like this line because it's very true. No marquee FA will ever consider SA like you said so there's no point about worrying how players around the league react to what happens to Kawhi.
Never? Spurs fans ain't fanatics.
out of topic but true. Kudos to you... some wisdom.
The only who actually got roasted is Pop at the hands of Kerr but tell us why you're mad besides Kawhi shattering your dreams...
I know it hurts bro since you have him in your account name..The only who actually got roasted is Pop at the hands of Kerr but tell us why you're mad besides Kawhi shattering your dreams....
This is getting clowned like no other Spurs player/coach had ever been before..It sucks but it is what it is..We all get some people wrong in real life. He's turned out to be the biggest letdown in franchise history..
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Pop is 1-9 in the postseason without Kawhi with 8 blowouts & 1 epic choke jobI know it hurts bro since you have him in your account name..
This is getting clowned like no other Spurs player/coach ever been before..It sucks but it is what it is..We all get some people wrong in real life. He's turned to be the biggest letdown in franchise history..
Tim retired rather than playing for Pop-A- with one year left on his contract.
Poop had to take Softridge out on a date to save face.
He should tank Trump otherwise he would be getting the Feel Jackson treatment.
Relationships get strained. Happens all the time in everyday life.
If Kawhi were to come back next year and bust his ass and openly say he owes to the team and fans specifically for what happened this season, whether it’s all his fault or not, and he balls out, it would be a great redemption story.
Pop is 1-9 in the postseason without Kawhi with 8 blowouts & 1 epic choke job
Tim retired rather than playing for Pop-A- with one year left on his contract.
Poop had to take Softridge out on a date to save face.
He should tank Trump otherwise he would be getting the Feel Jackson treatment.
That article from Jabari with that “people are saying they are mad that SA hasn’t done more to protect Kawhi’s rep”.
What????
Think that's mostly how this plays out, minus Leonard's saying that publicly. I'd expect to see it, in terms of play and for it to exist behind the scenes, through his actions.
Basically, if he's back and remains relatively healthy, I'd expect him to win MVP.
Pop has four ing les without Kawhi. You can rank Tim against Pop if you want, but Kawhi has no place at that table.Pop is 1-9 in the postseason without Kawhi with 8 blowouts & 1 epic choke job
Reading between the lines: "Kiwi's uncle is mad bc SA hasn’t done more to protect Kawhi’s rep."
I don't know what more they could have done tbh. It's a very difficult situation they are in.
That value is far and away better than Tatum and the Sac pick. The Spur may not be a contender without Kawhi, but they'd've been hosting a playoff series this year with Harris instead of nothing. I like two chances at this draft over a Kings pick which cannot be first-overall and could be as low as 30 if the SAC pick wins the lotto and Philly has the best record in the league. Huge downside, not a huge upside given the potential wait. Obviously, we've had the Tatum debate like a million times already. No reason to keep going there. But Beverly's contract is very good (old-CBA non-guaranteed expiring) and Boban is excellent ballast. When considering what the Celtics will need to use as ballast to make the numbers work, the total value gets even lower.
This completely ignores that LAC would likely offer all that for Kawhi and maybe more, while Boston is probably conservative enough to think the proposed deal is already too much. I could see a Clippers deal getting done quickly and quietly, with Woj reporting it right after the 12th pick is made. A Celtics deal would likely take days to complete, like a lot of stupid news articles going the whole time. Even if Ainge would eventually cave to this deal (which isn't enough in my opinion), he may miss his chance,
Agreed. Kiwi's redemption story happens next season and he wins his supermax deal too, or he's simply done as an elite player... meaning chronic tendinopathy continues to sideline him in one form or another next year. It sucks if the latter happens for both the player and team but it is the scenario less talked about bc it's not interesting or juicy and ends with Kawhi in a state similar to Bosh. And unlike Bosh, he's not going to be charismatic enough to publicize his efforts to get back to playing. And his career as an elite player being over is just sad and tragic.
Kawhi left them to answer all the questions on his behalf. They let Kawhi get 2nd opinion, allowed him to go away from the team to rehab with his guys and have protected him from any media responsibility. They have done more than they should honestly.
Even the stuff people are mad at (TP interview, Pop, etc) are very innocent in the big scheme of things and are a direct result of SA protecting Kawhi from all media. They are getting peppered with questions when Kawhi himself is the one with the answers.
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