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    Can anyone comment on the credentials of the spurs doctors and KL’s outside team? I’ve looked at their websites, but can’t really understand if one is better/more qualified than the other? Someone with some industry knowledge maybe?

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    His issue with the doctors is that they said he was good to go when he clearly wasn't... But it's not as if it was a major issue to where he didn't wanna play for the team... He just went to a better doctor who did see something wrong... Kawhi has always been down for the team and never looked to complain and bail like LA... I'm sure it hurts him that the old guys are being selfish and inconsiderate
    But he went to his doctors and after he did that he said he was close and he still never got cleared. Are his doctors idiots?

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    No, not really. Be mad at the Spurs doctors all you want. But dont take it out on your teammates. It’s the rule of sports and teammates. Business is business, but those are your brothers. Be there for them even if you are mad at management.
    Are you talking about teammates like Parker that supported Spurs doctors and questioned Kawhi's injury in public? I guess he wont "be there" after some comments.

    Also, does Kawhi feel a bit foolish that even after he’s been with his own team for months on end and where he himself said he was close that he never got cleared?
    I don't think so...SAS doctors cleared him to play, he returned and his quad got worse. On other hand, I never heard his NYC doctors cleared him.

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    Or c) Hold your grown, gain respect and work things out so that one person isn’t holding you hostage?
    i guess i'm just not seeing the light at the end of the tunnel with option c

    kawhi sees the light and plays the good soldier going forward? we get comparable value back in a trade? we do what you suggested and let him walk in free agency just so spite him and hurt our team?

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    Kawhi was playing with pain for the entire playoffs last year... Don't act as if he has zero tolerance... But no one should be walking the way he was walking after the 9 games and expect to play an entire season... He wasn't just limping... He could barely walk
    Then why no surgery? You don't limp for 1 full season and just keep rehabbing. When does that happen? Leg is not getting any better right? Or he would be playing. Unless he is soft.

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    Are you talking about teammates like Parker that supported Spurs doctors and questioned Kawhi's injury in public? I guess he wont be there for them.



    I don't think so...SAS doctors cleared him to play, he returned and his quad got worse. On other hand, I never heard his NYC doctors cleared him.
    They told him he was close though. To the point that both Kawhi and Woj said he would be back mid-march. Did they lie to him or was Kawhi lying?

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    i guess i'm just not seeing the light at the end of the tunnel with option c

    kawhi sees the light and plays the good soldier going forward? we get comparable value back in a trade? we do what you suggested and let him walk in free agency just so spite him and hurt our team?
    The light is instead of a terrible relationship where one person isn’t holding the other hostage, you have a mutual clearing of the air, a reset of priorities and what it means to be a team player and have a truly healthy relationship that you cant have if someone walks all over you.

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    Are you talking about teammates like Parker that supported Spurs doctors and questioned Kawhi's injury in public? I guess he wont "be there" after some comments.



    I don't think so...SAS doctors cleared him to play, he returned and his quad got worse. On other hand, I never heard his NYC doctors cleared him.
    Your first part has been sort of debunked and yes, even if TP said something bad (he didn’t) then why screw over all the others? You that selfish?

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    Kawhi was playing with pain for the entire playoffs last year... Don't act as if he has zero tolerance... But no one should be walking the way he was walking after the 9 games and expect to play an entire season... He wasn't just limping... He could barely walk
    Every player in the NBA plays through pain.

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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.red..._been_healthy/

    Is this fool a treating physician? Because throwing your patient under the bus doesn’t really smack of professionalism or HIPAA compliance for that matter.

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    The light is instead of a terrible relationship where one person isn’t holding the other hostage, you have a mutual clearing of the air, a reset of priorities and what it means to be a team player and have a truly healthy relationship that you cant have if someone walks all over you.
    yes and everything will be rainbows and sunshine.

    turns out kawhi isn't a duncan... so we've been dealt that hand. have to deal with it one way or another. pretending he will have a coming of age moment is naive

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    Or it could be the truth... Just Sunday they reported the team agrees that Kawhi should be in NY rehabbing... They're telling u what is going on, yet u guys prefer to believe the drama
    It could be the truth or it could be the Spurs sticking up for KL or it could be the Spurs trying to squash anymore drama...or whatever. This is on KL and his advisors--plain and simple. There's only so much the Spurs/Pop can report when the guy in question doesn't speak.

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    I give props to those that do the cucking. All of y'all betas otoh.....
    So if I bang your wife will you give me props tbh?

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    They told him he was close though. To the point that both Kawhi and Woj said he would be back mid-march. Did they lie to him or was Kawhi lying?
    Again, we know after Danny's comment that Kawhi had multiple setbacks in his rehab. Unlike SAS doctors, KL doctors never cleared him to play because those setbacks.

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    yes and everything will be rainbows and sunshine.

    turns out kawhi isn't a duncan... so we've been dealt that hand. have to deal with it one way or another. pretending he will have a coming of age moment is naive
    NO more then pretending that by kissing someone’s ass even more than you already have is going to sit well with everyone.

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    Every player in the NBA plays through pain.
    Kawhi is injured... Huge difference

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    Didn't TheGreatYacht used to mock Kawhi Leonard by calling him "Shawn Marion"? And now all of a sudden he's his biggest defender? Disgusting troll tbh.......

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    It could be the truth or it could be the Spurs sticking up for KL or it could be the Spurs trying to squash anymore drama...or whatever. This is on KL and his advisors--plain and simple. There's only so much the Spurs/Pop can report when the guy in question doesn't speak.
    U don't even know what his advisors told him... Everything is pure speculation

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    Again, we know after Danny's comment he had multiple setbacks. Unlike SAS doctors, KL doctors never cleared him to play because those setbacks.
    So he had setbacks under his new doctors? What idiots. Is he going to get a 3rd opinion now? Also, you going off a podcast comment by Danny vs what Kawhi and Woj said because you think it was being suppressed by SA but they were fine with Danny broadcasting this?

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    Kawhi is injured... Huge difference
    So are a lot of players out there playing. Timmy battled through injuries. Meanwhile, Kawhi has missed two straight playoffs. He's a net negative. He costs $19 million for zero production and is a team cancer.

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    Kawhi is injured... Huge difference
    No Surgery and all he has done is rehab.. Very rare. It smells like ..

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    I admire DPG for having this much patience while he eviscerates the fanboys even it's too easy to see the smug obtuseness of some them ..
    So you're saying Kawhi is not really injured and is intentionally destroying his brand just for the of it?

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    No Surgery and all he has done is rehab.. Very rare. It smells like ..
    The details of his injury have been posted many times.

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    I didn't know you were so into gossip
    Can you have a bigger meltdown? Crying worse than leonard

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    Kawhi wants out, Jabari wants to go to a bigger market...I doubt it. Everyone wants to leave SA now??

    I wonder how you call yourself a Spurs fan if you think SA isn't a market/city that people want to stay in...
    Never lived in SA in my whole entire life and became a Spurs fan way back in '94 due to being a fan of seeing David Robinson play on TV. I grew up in Charlotte and that's my home. Just being real and calling out for what is is that most people who are in TV and media are opportunists and want to be in big markets but settle for small markets due to barriers of entry in the big markets. Also players if we are being real want to be in big markets because of better night life, clubs, women, endorsements, etc. I saw it a lot growing up in Charlotte when players would cry and once they got traded or drafted to Charlotte about how it wasn't a big city. I remember even Baron Davis threatening the Hornets not to draft him way back in '99 because he didn't like the idea of being in a small city like Charlotte. That has changed a lot now in the last 20 years since the city has grown a lot and guys no longer view living in Charlotte as Siberia but more so a mini Atlanta. I will always be a Spurs fan but I'm realistic that SA will never be a hot spot to attract FA's and the Spurs like always will have to rely on the draft and trades to build a good team. SA like all the other small market teams will always have a struggle to keep their superstar or even star players simply because guys prefer big markets over small markets.

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