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    Damn..
    Eh, it's like Pop can't praise any of his players without others thinking he's slighting Kawhi. LMA has been great this year and even though it won't make a difference in the playoffs, he's played well there. He's not the reason we are losing. I am bothered how everything is in the context of dissing Kawhi when it's likely that never crossed Pop's mind.

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    Eh, it's like Pop can't praise any of his players without others thinking he's slighting Kawhi. LMA has been great this year and even though it won't make a difference in the playoffs, he's played well there. He's not the reason we are losing. I am bothered how everything is in the context of dissing Kawhi when it's likely that never crossed Pop's mind.

    Media just stirring the pot tbh....

    Everything is now Kawhi related....

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    Eh, it's like Pop can't praise any of his players without others thinking he's slighting Kawhi. LMA has been great this year and even though it won't make a difference in the playoffs, he's played well there. He's not the reason we are losing. I am bothered how everything is in the context of dissing Kawhi when it's likely that never crossed Pop's mind.
    Media just stirring the pot tbh....

    Everything is now Kawhi related....
    +1

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    Damn..
    Well, he's only speaking the truth! LMA has been carrying this team all season and played his heart out last night while Kawhi is over in NY with his handlers instead being with his team mates!

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    Parker and Manu are mad because they tried to gravy train another year on the Spurs but got pantsed in front of everyone.
    WTF are you talking about idiot! Manu playing his heart out and Kawhi let them down by being a mummy! He just needs to say I am not playing for the rest of the season! Pop and the team are tired of answering the media's questions about Kawhi returning? Kawhi needs to stop being a mummy and answer the media's questions himself! He needs to deal with the media, not Pop and certainly not the team!

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    This might just be the best post ever written on this forum tbh.
    I agree with it all except for the idea "pop debased himself."

    We have different definitions of that word evidently.

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    Well, he's only speaking the truth! LMA has been carrying this team all season and played his heart out last night while Kawhi is over in NY with his handlers instead being with his team mates!

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    even Riverside's or Riverdales( who cares ) very own Reggie Miller was sayin this stinks.... That Kiwi should be on the court...

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    WTF are you talking about idiot! Manu playing his heart out and Kawhi let them down by being a mummy! He just needs to say I am not playing for the rest of the season! Pop and the team are tired of answering the media's questions about Kawhi returning? Kawhi needs to stop being a mummy and answer the media's questions himself! He needs to deal with the media, not Pop and certainly not the team!
    Calm down man.

    I don’t disagree with your thoughts on Kawhi. I’ve called him out Kawhi plenty on this board an said he should be with the team. I’ve also said PATFO carry some blame. Not every post someone makes can carry the context of all their other post on Spurstalk.

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    I can't wait for Twitter to explode and the news story comes out when the AT&T Center Ushers kick out or bar Leonard from going into the building. Kawhi is that guy that comes home to the locks being changed at this point. Its over Johnny.

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    I'm saying it doesn't matter. LMA nearly signed with Phoenix when they were a repeated catastrophe and had players bad mouth the organization that very year on their way out.

    People like to imagine that how organizations treat players matters greatly but it doesn't.

    If it did, there wouldn't be any issues with Kawhi, now would there?

    They've done everything for him. Pop talked him up as the future years before even a majority of Spurs fans did. He talked him up and celebrated him. Durant was calling him a system player, all the talking heads were downplaying him, but the Spurs had his back. Pop even talked him up as THE best player in the car whole league. What did it get the Spurs?

    When he sprained his ankle in game 5, despite the criticism', Pop held him out to protect Kawhi's health. What did it get the Spurs?

    They shielded him from the media, he never had to take the big media star in he didn't want to. What did it get the Spurs?

    Desperate to help the team, Pop debased himself before LMA to keep him engaged. Not for Pop's own benefit, for Kawhi to have his best chance. What did it get the Spurs?

    If doing right by players, if treating Kawhi better and supporting him better than any other team could means so much ... Why is Kawhi doing everything a player could to screw a team over?

    Not being with the team, leaving the city for months, getting his own medical team, refusing to talk, having people in his sphere talking trash to the media on his behalf.

    If his goal was to screw the Spurs over by simultaneously tanking his value, dividing the team and destroying locker room chemistry, dissuading possible suitors from non-huge markets from even bidding with leaks, and ruining the reputation of a coach near retirement ... then Kawhi is doing a magnificent job!

    I'd give him an A+ in franchise killing
    That post is as good as it gets right there. This whole thing is so frustrating and incredibly confusing. I don’t even think the organization really has a great handle on what exactly happened here? He did a magnificent job his whole Run with the team prior to this whole mess. He was compe ive, he worked hard, he played great in the regular season and was coming into his own as the guy in San Antonio. Then suddenly this season changes everything. I just don’t believe and I have never believed, that he is that badly injured. The team cleared him to play, and the Spurs have never been the type of organization that would clear somebody and put a star player or any player for that matter in harms way. They don’t do that. This is a team coached by a man that is notorious for resting players. To the point that the league is taking disciplinary action because of it. None of this has ever made any sense. It still doesn’t.

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    Even if Kawhi came back next year healthy and agreed to sign you have to wonder if this is the guy you want to give your super max contract to. I imagine he has zero respect from his team mates and I can think of a single other player in the league less capable of being a team leader. he makes Boogie look like Tim Duncan.

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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...pic/523223002/

    LMA on Kawhi: “I have no comment,” he said as he walked away. “He has to do what’s best for him. That’s it."

    Not exactly a ringing endorsement on the guy.

    And look how professionally he handled being asked to carry a bunch of dead weight on the team:

    “It’s tough,” Aldridge said of the cir stances of this season. “We’re depending on guys who really aren’t offensive guys, and I think that showed tonight. We have guys who really don’t score, and teams are exposing that and trying to make those guys score. ... But every guy in the locker room has grinded, and tried to get better, and you’ve got to consider that.”

    LMA being a REAL leader, tbh.

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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...pic/523223002/

    LMA on Kawhi: “I have no comment,” he said as he walked away. “He has to do what’s best for him. That’s it."

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    I didn't really think LMA was that kind of guy, but he is. At 33, 34, he's shown he can change and grow, and carry The Weight.

    As it always does, rebounding shows he is a hustling, committed, tough son of a .

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    Philly would be interesting. I don’t know enough about their young guys to say whether something less than a package built around fultz is a no go (excluding Simmons and Embid).

    I forgot they also have Pasecnicks & Jonah Bolden stashed. Mills there would fit next to Simmons like a glove.
    Fultz, Ingram, Tatum/Brown (think Spurs would prefer former) would have to be the headliners in a package.

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    With Philly I would do Kawhi for Dario Saric, Robert Covington, Amir Johnson, there 10 pick and there first second round pick 48 .....Philly has 6 picks in this draft

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    With Philly I would do Kawhi for Dario Saric, Robert Covington, Amir Johnson, there 10 pick and there first second round pick 48 .....Philly has 6 picks in this draft
    philly wins that trade in a landslide

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    philly wins that trade in a landslide
    the Spurs need to at least get Fultz from Philly..whoever they trade, they need to at least acquire a potential star(or a pick with a decent probability of drafting a potential star)..

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    the Spurs need to at least get Fultz from Philly..whoever they trade, they need to at least acquire a potential star(or a pick with a decent probability of drafting a potential star)..
    +1

    fultz would have to be included (no way they're moving embiid or simmons, obviously)

    i love saric, but he's not a star that's leading a team somewhere. convington is a better version of green (not as good a shooter as peak green) and is on a solid deal locked up for 4 years. but amir johnson is just filler.

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    fultz+saric+bolden+covington+pick for Kawhi+Mills

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    fultz+saric+bolden+covington+pick for Kawhi+Mills
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    OT but someone posted a photo of Kawhi's "supposed" doctor 3-4 days ago, can't find it anymore.

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    fultz+saric+bolden+covington+pick for Kawhi+Mills
    that would be an impressive haul

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