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    Does it appear certain that the Spurs want to trade him, or do you think the relationship can be mended?
    Want to trade him? I don't think they want to, but the relationship between Pop/players and Kawhi isn't as good as they would like so trading him is something they are really going to consider. They will sit down and talk with Kawhi once the season is over and see what he wants and go from there.

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    I’m sure they could suspend him but the whole season? Wouldn’t the players union/league step in?

    They could. But it wouldn't be a straight forward case. If he's refusing to play. Tendinopathy isn't exactly a career ending diagnosis ... I don't think anyone has ever sat out this long because of it.

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    I’m sure they could suspend him but the whole season? Wouldn’t the players union/league step in?
    They could cut him after the deadline for free agents to sign and be playoff eligible.

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    You never get equal value back for a disgruntled player.

    The whole situation just sucks.

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    this dudes swollen pussy.

    I don't want anything back for him. I want him sitting out another year in his prime. You only get so many prime years and to have 2 taken away I think is punishment enough for his dumb antics. Not to mention it's tough to come back to the NBA as a great player after 2 years away from compe ion. The guys career will be absolutely ed.

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    He will be traded, I don't think his value has really been effected that much tbh. He hasn't had surgery, there are plenty of teams who will line up for him despite what has gone on. The Spurs aren't going to drag this out another year. Keep in mind Lebron is a FA this offseason, there are going to be tons of teams thinking of how they can have a Kawhi/Lebron combo, those teams aren't going to dwell that much about how Kawhi wasn't on the bench during the playoffs. A team who could trade for Kawhi has a even better chance of getting Lebron so they will go all in on that. If a team like LA can trade any combo of picks and players to get Kawhi to then sign Lebron they will.

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    He will be traded, I don't think his value has really been effected that much tbh. He hasn't had surgery, there are plenty of teams who will line up for him despite what has gone on. The Spurs aren't going to drag this out another year. Keep in mind Lebron is a FA this offseason, there are going to be tons of teams thinking of how they can have a Kawhi/Lebron combo, those teams aren't going to dwell that much about how Kawhi wasn't on the bench during the playoffs. A team who could trade for Kawhi has a even better chance of getting Lebron so they will go all in on that. If a team like LA can trade any combo of picks and players to get Kawhi to then sign Lebron they will.
    Kawhi has sat out a whole year with an injury, he has Poop trashing him to the media after every game, teammates (Porker and even Manu to an extent) throwing him under the bus, and even the media is piling on now. I highly doubt his value hasn't been affected. Trading for him is a huge risk right now, unlike the usual trades for disgruntled stars.

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    IF he doesn't accept an extension and IF they can't get back something like the #1 pick ...

    Then yes. Hardball it is. He brought this on.

    But I suspect it won't be a suspension. They'll have to tell him to stay away.

    Because as soon as the season starts and they threaten to suspend him for conduct detrimental his leg will feel magically better.

    But they shouldn't be pushed around by him. Scorched Earth him, ban him from the facilities.

    Yes, he'll walk for nothing. And like Jordan missing time for baseball, he'll probably still be great for his next team.

    But I say kill his earning power on endorsement deals for next year. Get the 'sources said' out there that he might never play again. That he'll be Brandon Roy. He tanked the Spurs, time to tank him. It's petty, but it's justice. He'll go a year without those big endorsements he wants, and maybe longer as he'll need to prove himself. His career earning potential combined with the lack of supermax will fall by millions.

    With Green likely gone, it's not like the locker room will be divided. It'll be LMA's team, none of them will be on his side after what he's pulled this season.

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    You never get equal value back for a disgruntled player.

    The whole situation just sucks.
    I'm not disgruntled. I'm just not happy with the team and situation.

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    If he vetoes trades to anywhere but LA they're not going to get quality players in return. That's my whole point of suspending him, to make him choose between another wasted season, signing an extension elsewhere with a team that might make a better offer, or forcing his desired destination to make moves to acquire assets useful to the Spurs if they don't want him sitting on his ass for another year. That's how it helps the Spurs, it lets them gain back a little leverage. And I'd rather get nothing in return than get crap. Suspending him keeps him away from the team so he's not as huge a distraction.
    Does he have a no trade clause? If I am not mistaken, only players who have No trade clause can veto any trade that they don't want.
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    Unless the Spurs aren't giving the big Max, or k won't take it, there will be no trade. Anything other speculation is emo

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    Who says he wants out? Did a new article come out or something? Did he speak to the media? Or lemme guess... More assumptions?

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    Indiana got incredibly lucky. Oladipo wasn't a very good player at the time and OKC loved getting out of that contract.

    Why is suspending him unreasonable though if the best offer they get is Julius Randle on a near max contract?
    Lucky or not it still worked out for them. What does wasting Kawhi's final year do for the Spurs? Nothing positive. 1% chance the trade will turn out great >>> Getting nothing in return.

    And you're seriously questioning why it's unreasonable to suspend a player just because the team isn't getting the trade offers they want? They don't have to take a Randle but they also don't have to suspend Kawhi. That just puts the organization in a bad light and makes them look petty.

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    Lucky or not it still worked out for them. What does wasting Kawhi's final year do for the Spurs? Nothing positive. 1% chance the trade will turn out great >>> Getting nothing in return.

    And you're seriously questioning why it's unreasonable to suspend a player just because the team isn't getting the trade offers they want? They don't have to take a Randle but they also don't have to suspend Kawhi. That just puts the organization in a bad light and makes them look petty.
    It's not petty. It's a sign the team won't be bullied into taking crap offers. And getting nothing is much better than getting $15 to $20 million worth of crap. We already have that with Gasol.

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    Some interesting takes but at the end of the day we still don't know the big question. Is he not playing because he can't, or won't? Everything else is speculation. Very strange. The media does seem to mostly think there is some kind of bad blood beyond the injury, mainly because he isn't sitting with the team.

    Also, it's hard to believe that he can't play even limited minutes, when he's been cleared by team doctors for weeks now. For an injury that was non-surgical. Possibly unprecedented that I know of.

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    Cant remember suspension for acting like monsieur Ricky Bobby, has ever happened?

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    Also, it's hard to believe that he can't play even limited minutes, when he's been cleared by team doctors for weeks now. For an injury that was non-surgical. Possibly unprecedented that I know of.

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    It's not petty. It's a sign the team won't be bullied into taking crap offers. And getting nothing is much better than getting $15 to $20 million worth of crap. We already have that with Gasol.
    No one is bullying them into taking a crap offer and again how is suspending Kawhi better than having him play?

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    No one is bullying them into taking a crap offer and again how is suspending Kawhi better than having him play?
    If they can salvage the relationship at the last minute like the Lakers did with Kobe in 07 that obviously changes everything completely.

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    Suspend

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    Should the Spurs suspend Kawhi for being injured? Spurstalk

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    Should the Spurs suspend Kawhi for being injured? Spurstalk
    Yes

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    Injured?

    Kawhi leads the team in advanced stats like PER. He won't qualify, but he's top 5 in steals in the NBA. If he played 30 minutes, he'd lead the league.

    His last three games were damn good. He might not have been 100%, but he wasn't unable to play.

    There's hurt and injured, and he's hurt.

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