Kawhi is trending and NBA twitter is ripping him into shreds

[RD2191]

Even the local media are assuming he's gone. I am dispirited I have to admit.

Tf is kawhi leonad?

[MoSpur02]

Yeah I think he's gone and I think that's what he wanted all along. Well his uncle and him. I created a thread (that was deleted) before the trade deadline stating that the front office (R.C) received the okay to trade him.

Apparently before that happened they actually had dinner with him and another player on the team to talk things out. According to what I was told Kawhi barely spoke. He checked out a long time ago. Things never got any better. They didn't end up trading him for whatever reason, but I'm sure that will be priority #1 as soon as this season is over.

[SAGirl]

IN my imagination the other player in that dinner is "team leader" Patty Mills.
I am not one to troll the teams roster normally but I would have run from that meeting like a madwoman.

[Twisted_Dawg]

Yeah I think he's gone and I think that's what he wanted all along. Well his uncle and him. I created a thread (that was deleted) before the trade deadline stating that the front office (R.C) received the okay to trade him.

Apparently before that happened they actually had dinner with him and another player on the team to talk things out. According to what I was told Kawhi barely spoke. He checked out a long time ago. Things never got any better. They didn't end up trading him for whatever reason, but I'm sure that will be priority #1 as soon as this season is over.

What is the order/timeline of these events:
Team picture where Kawhi left after 20 minutes
The dinner you reference
The players only meeting.

[MoSpur02]

IN my imagination the other player in that dinner is "team leader" Patty Mills.
I am not one to troll the teams roster normally but I would have run from that meeting like a madwoman.

Wasn't Mills

[MoSpur02]

What is the order/timeline of these events:
Team picture where Kawhi left after 20 minutes
The dinner you reference
The players only meeting.

The dinner took place some time in January before the trade deadline. Not sure when the team picture took place

[r0drig0lac]

Wasn't Mills

Parker?

[MoSpur02]

Parker?

It was a PG. Not Mills or Parker

[daslicer]

Yeah I think he's gone and I think that's what he wanted all along. Well his uncle and him. I created a thread (that was deleted) before the trade deadline stating that the front office (R.C) received the okay to trade him.

Apparently before that happened they actually had dinner with him and another player on the team to talk things out. According to what I was told Kawhi barely spoke. He checked out a long time ago. Things never got any better. They didn't end up trading him for whatever reason, but I'm sure that will be priority #1 as soon as this season is over.

I wonder who that other player was at the dinner. Also I'm shocked his uncle was not with him at that dinner. I think the reason why they didn't trade him at the deadline was they didn't want to feel rushed when it came to fielding offers versus during the summer where they won't have a time constraint and can weigh all the options that are available for trading him.

[apalisoc_9]

Yeah I think he's gone and I think that's what he wanted all along. Well his uncle and him. I created a thread (that was deleted) before the trade deadline stating that the front office (R.C) received the okay to trade him.

Apparently before that happened they actually had dinner with him and another player on the team to talk things out. According to what I was told Kawhi barely spoke. He checked out a long time ago. Things never got any better. They didn't end up trading him for whatever reason, but I'm sure that will be priority #1 as soon as this season is over.

Mo, any chance this also about recognition? Obviously the injuriy mismanagement is huge but i think wehn a player does something like this its always an assortment of reasons.

There was a report last year that he wasnt particularly happy with the Gasol and Mills Signing.

And i think he could look at last year and conclude he would have won MVP had he played in a bigger city and not for Pop.

Kawhi strikes me as a guy looking for individual glory and one who cares a lot about his personal brand.

[tholdren]

This is worse than the grocery checkout magazines. Just pray his tendonitis is fatal and move on with life. He was and always will be a bum. Getcha some mrsa leonard

[MoSpur02]

I'll be totally honest as far as why he isn't all that happy. I really don't know. However, I do know that he changed once his uncle sort of started taking over. Not sure if it was the whole issue with his quad and him feeling they misdiagnosed it.

[Ice009]

It was a PG. Not Mills or Parker

Dejounte? Thanks for the info. I know you mentioned the front office had the OK to trade him at the deadline, but I was hoping that wasn't true.

. It sounds like he's gone.

[MoSpur02]

I hope when they sit down again to talk after the season is over that maybe somehow they can fix whatever is wrong, but I'm not gonna hold my breath.

[UZER]

Yeah I think he's gone and I think that's what he wanted all along. Well his uncle and him. I created a thread (that was deleted) before the trade deadline stating that the front office (R.C) received the okay to trade him.

Apparently before that happened they actually had dinner with him and another player on the team to talk things out. According to what I was told Kawhi barely spoke. He checked out a long time ago. Things never got any better. They didn't end up trading him for whatever reason, but I'm sure that will be priority #1 as soon as this season is over.

First, I'm not excusing what Kwahi has done in any way. He should be with the team. But I can see his issues. I said a long time ago, even last year, that Kawhi is not happy with the way Pop coaches. He doesn't like Pop undercutting him. It's not just one thing. I think its a combination of a lot of things.

-Kawhi doesn't like being subbed out when he clearly his a groove. There have been countless times where Kawhi gets rolling and Pop will just pull him mid groove. He'll have 15 in the first qtr, then gets pulled and plays 5 minutes the rest of the half. Kawhi sees other coaches let their players go on those special nights where they are just in a great rhythm. There are rare, rare occasions where pop lets him go. Kwahi wants to play like that every night, like other superstars on the league are allowed to. Tim Tony and Manu all got their chance to shine early in their careers. They "allowed" Pop's the micromanaging later. Kawhi hasn't been the man for but one year. He wants his chance to shine and put his stamp on the league.

-He doesn't like Pop pulling the plug so early on games, ESPECIALLY THE PLAYOFFS. How many time have we all seen Pop waive the white flag to start the 4th quarter. We all hate it and we don't even play. I can only imagine how much Kawhi hates it. He's been with him for 7 years and I think he's just finally had enough. All those losses add up and do damage to your overall seating come playoff time.

-He hates how all the resting changes the outcome of games before they start. So many national games, someone is always sitting out. I think he's tired of Pop not putting the best team on the floor night after night and giving games away.

-He's done with PATFO holding on to all these old guys that keep taking roster spots, and guys that can't help the team but keep getting resigned for "loyalty" or whatever, even to the detriment of the team. A token guy is okay, but the Spurs constantly have their roster filled with these guys year after year. I mean, Manu AND Tony are still on the team in 2018 and STILL counted on as major parts of the roster. If that is going to happen, fine, they're Spurs legends, but then you bring old useless Pau back? Then you sign Patty to the big contract eating up lots of cap space? That's 4 roster spots being eaten up by so-so guys. That's too many. Manu is the exception, but he's 40 and can't bring it every night anymore. Plus, three of those guys can't help you beat the Warriors. You know, the team everyone is chasing.


Again, I'm not excusing Kawhi's behavior in any way, but I can see why he is frustrated and wants to get off the Spurs team as long as Pop is coaching and the front office keeps doing what they're doing.

[FireMicoHalili]

First, I'm not excusing what Kwahi has done in any way. He should be with the team. But I can see his issues. I said a long time ago, even last year, that Kawhi is not happy with the way Pop coaches. He doesn't like Pop undercutting him. It's not just one thing. I think its a combination of a lot of things.

-Kawhi doesn't like being subbed out when he clearly his a groove. There have been countless times where Kawhi gets rolling and Pop will just pull him mid groove. He'll have 15 in the first qtr, then gets pulled and plays 5 minutes the rest of the half. Kawhi sees other coaches let their players go on those special nights where they are just in a great rhythm. There are rare, rare occasions where pop lets him go. Kwahi wants to play like that every night, like other superstars on the league are allowed to. Tim Tony and Manu all got their chance to shine early in their careers. They "allowed" Pop's the micromanaging later. Kawhi hasn't been the man for but one year. He wants his chance to shine and put his stamp on the league.

-He doesn't like Pop pulling the plug so early on games, ESPECIALLY THE PLAYOFFS. How many time have we all seen Pop waive the white flag to start the 4th quarter. We all hate it and we don't even play. I can only imagine how much Kawhi hates it. He's been with him for 7 years and I think he's just finally had enough. All those losses add up and do damage to your overall seating come playoff time.

-He hates how all the resting changes the outcome of games before they start. So many national games, someone is always sitting out. I think he's tired of Pop not putting the best team on the floor night after night and giving games away.

-He's done with PATFO holding on to all these old guys that keep taking roster spots, and guys that can't help the team but keep getting resigned for "loyalty" or whatever, even to the detriment of the team. A token guy is okay, but the Spurs constantly have their roster filled with these guys year after year. I mean, Manu AND Tony are still on the team in 2018 and STILL counted on as major parts of the roster. If that is going to happen, fine, they're Spurs legends, but then you bring old useless Pau back? Then you sign Patty to the big contract eating up lots of cap space? That's 4 roster spots being eaten up by so-so guys. That's too many. Manu is the exception, but he's 40 and can't bring it every night anymore. Plus, three of those guys can't help you beat the Warriors. You know, the team everyone is chasing.


Again, I'm not excusing Kawhi's behavior in any way, but I can see why he is frustrated and wants to get off the Spurs team as long as Pop is coaching and the front office keeps doing what they're doing.

Told you this himself?

[apalisoc_9]

First, I'm not excusing what Kwahi has done in any way. He should be with the team. But I can see his issues. I said a long time ago, even last year, that Kawhi is not happy with the way Pop coaches. He doesn't like Pop undercutting him. It's not just one thing. I think its a combination of a lot of things.

-Kawhi doesn't like being subbed out when he clearly his a groove. There have been countless times where Kawhi gets rolling and Pop will just pull him mid groove. He'll have 15 in the first qtr, then gets pulled and plays 5 minutes the rest of the half. Kawhi sees other coaches let their players go on those special nights where they are just in a great rhythm. There are rare, rare occasions where pop lets him go. Kwahi wants to play like that every night, like other superstars on the league are allowed to. Tim Tony and Manu all got their chance to shine early in their careers. They "allowed" Pop's the micromanaging later. Kawhi hasn't been the man for but one year. He wants his chance to shine and put his stamp on the league.

-He doesn't like Pop pulling the plug so early on games, ESPECIALLY THE PLAYOFFS. How many time have we all seen Pop waive the white flag to start the 4th quarter. We all hate it and we don't even play. I can only imagine how much Kawhi hates it. He's been with him for 7 years and I think he's just finally had enough. All those losses add up and do damage to your overall seating come playoff time.

-He hates how all the resting changes the outcome of games before they start. So many national games, someone is always sitting out. I think he's tired of Pop not putting the best team on the floor night after night and giving games away.

-He's done with PATFO holding on to all these old guys that keep taking roster spots, and guys that can't help the team but keep getting resigned for "loyalty" or whatever, even to the detriment of the team. A token guy is okay, but the Spurs constantly have their roster filled with these guys year after year. I mean, Manu AND Tony are still on the team in 2018 and STILL counted on as major parts of the roster. If that is going to happen, fine, they're Spurs legends, but then you bring old useless Pau back? Then you sign Patty to the big contract eating up lots of cap space? That's 4 roster spots being eaten up by so-so guys. That's too many. Manu is the exception, but he's 40 and can't bring it every night anymore. Plus, three of those guys can't help you beat the Warriors. You know, the team everyone is chasing.


Again, I'm not excusing Kawhi's behavior in any way, but I can see why he is frustrated and wants to get off the Spurs team as long as Pop is coaching and the front office keeps doing what they're doing.

Yeah.

If not Kawhi, his uncle for sure.

Pop has always been a self serving coach regardless what people say

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Again, I'm not excusing Kawhi's behavior in any way, but I can see why he is frustrated and wants to get off the Spurs team as long as Pop is coaching and the front office keeps doing what they're doing.

Frustrated being on a perennial 50 win team, that until this year was in the hunt for a ring every year he was here?

Frustrated playing for a coach and front office that developed him into what he became? That is universally known as the best in the business?

On a team that rested him to prolong his career, when he never played more than 70 games in a season due to injury every year?

Give me a ing break.

Stop with your seeing both sides bull .

[Play Boban]

Frustrated being on a perennial 50 win team, that until this year was in the hunt for a ring every year he was here?

Frustrated playing for a coach and front office that developed him into what he became? That is universally known as the best in the business?

On a team that rested him to prolong his career, when he never played more than 70 games in a season due to injury every year?

Give me a ing break.

Stop with your seeing both sides bull .

Truth bomb the power of a million Hiroshimas

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[tholdren]

First, I'm liking when guys fart in my mouth

[UZER]

Frustrated being on a perennial 50 win team, that until this year was in the hunt for a ring every year he was here?

The rosters gotten worse, not better. You don't think that's frustrating?

Frustrated playing for a coach and front office that developed him into what he became? That is universally known as the best in the business?

Yeah. They just pushed a button and he become a star. His hours and hours in the gym had nothing to do with his development. Can't wait for Anderson and Forbes to become MVP candidates.

On a team that rested him to prolong his career, when he never played more than 70 games in a season due to injury every year?

Never? Are you sure?

[UZER]

Stop with your seeing both sides bull .

If you don't think both side carry blame, you're a blind homer.

[pad300]

Yeah I think he's gone and I think that's what he wanted all along. Well his uncle and him. I created a thread (that was deleted) before the trade deadline stating that the front office (R.C) received the okay to trade him.

Apparently before that happened they actually had dinner with him and another player on the team to talk things out. According to what I was told Kawhi barely spoke. He checked out a long time ago. Things never got any better. They didn't end up trading him for whatever reason, but I'm sure that will be priority #1 as soon as this season is over.

It was a PG. Not Mills or Parker

There are 3 other PG's on the roster: White, Murray and Forbes. I am calling BS here. There is simply NO WAY the PATFO brought any of those young guys into such a meeting with Kawhi about his future. I could see them bringing in Aldridge as the big dog on the team. I could see them bringing in Parker and/or Manu on seniority. I could see them bringing in TD, just because he sets the standard for all Spurs players to live up to. But one of White, Murray or Forbes. Nope, no way, not buying it. This detail, at least is bull ...

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The rosters gotten worse, not better. You don't think that's frustrating?

So you get to quit on your team and quit rooting them on because they question your lack of communication and/or dedication to them.

Yeah. They just pushed a button and he become a star. His hours and hours in the gym had nothing to do with his development. Can't wait for Anderson and Forbes to become MVP candidates.

Not my contention. He's obviously a gym rat. In fact, evidently, that's really all you can call him. He's certainly not the voice or the face of the franchise since he doesn't speak and can't be seen.

The Spurs certainly developed KL like no other team would have...slowly. Without making him face the pressure of the position. With excellent coaching and player development resources.

Never? Are you sure?

I meant he hasn't averaged 70 games in a year, my mistake.

Even if you remove this season from the totals, he **still** only averaged 66 GP. And this kid wants the supermax when he can't play the role of franchise player by at least sitting on the bench since he misses 16 games per year, **on average.**