Kawhi is trending and NBA twitter is ripping him into shreds

[BackHome]

No way to repair this marriage just hope we have a good attorney who will get us the kids we need and draft picks.

[daslicer]

First, I'm not excusing what Kwahi has done in any way. He should be with the team. But I can see his issues. I said a long time ago, even last year, that Kawhi is not happy with the way Pop coaches. He doesn't like Pop undercutting him. It's not just one thing. I think its a combination of a lot of things.

-Kawhi doesn't like being subbed out when he clearly his a groove. There have been countless times where Kawhi gets rolling and Pop will just pull him mid groove. He'll have 15 in the first qtr, then gets pulled and plays 5 minutes the rest of the half. Kawhi sees other coaches let their players go on those special nights where they are just in a great rhythm. There are rare, rare occasions where pop lets him go. Kwahi wants to play like that every night, like other superstars on the league are allowed to. Tim Tony and Manu all got their chance to shine early in their careers. They "allowed" Pop's the micromanaging later. Kawhi hasn't been the man for but one year. He wants his chance to shine and put his stamp on the league.

-He doesn't like Pop pulling the plug so early on games, ESPECIALLY THE PLAYOFFS. How many time have we all seen Pop waive the white flag to start the 4th quarter. We all hate it and we don't even play. I can only imagine how much Kawhi hates it. He's been with him for 7 years and I think he's just finally had enough. All those losses add up and do damage to your overall seating come playoff time.

-He hates how all the resting changes the outcome of games before they start. So many national games, someone is always sitting out. I think he's tired of Pop not putting the best team on the floor night after night and giving games away.

-He's done with PATFO holding on to all these old guys that keep taking roster spots, and guys that can't help the team but keep getting resigned for "loyalty" or whatever, even to the detriment of the team. A token guy is okay, but the Spurs constantly have their roster filled with these guys year after year. I mean, Manu AND Tony are still on the team in 2018 and STILL counted on as major parts of the roster. If that is going to happen, fine, they're Spurs legends, but then you bring old useless Pau back? Then you sign Patty to the big contract eating up lots of cap space? That's 4 roster spots being eaten up by so-so guys. That's too many. Manu is the exception, but he's 40 and can't bring it every night anymore. Plus, three of those guys can't help you beat the Warriors. You know, the team everyone is chasing.


Again, I'm not excusing Kawhi's behavior in any way, but I can see why he is frustrated and wants to get off the Spurs team as long as Pop is coaching and the front office keeps doing what they're doing.

I can see him being frustrated with Pop's resting strategy, subs utions, and pulling the plug in games. The rest of the stuff you listed I believe is just you projecting your frustrations with the front office's move which I can agree with have been bad the last few years but I don't believe Kawhi the dumb autistic mute really cares about those things. Ultimately it comes down to what his uncle wants which is more endorsements, big shoe deal, and living in a big market. None of those 3 things are the Spurs fault.

[UZER]

So you get to quit on your team and quit rooting them on because they question your lack of communication and/or dedication to them.

I have never ever said this.

Not my contention. He's obviously a gym rat. In fact, evidently, that's really all you can call him. He's certainly not the voice or the face of the franchise since he doesn't speak and can't be seen.

The Spurs certainly developed KL like no other team would have...slowly. Without making him face the pressure of the position. With excellent coaching and player development resources.

They put him on a 6 year plan?

You're giving the Spurs too much credit. Of course they helped, but if he could of developed faster, he would have. It's not like the Spurs were saying "Whoa Kawhi whoa! You're developing way too fast here! Let's slow it down." He developed at his pace putting in lots of hours in the gym.

I meant he hasn't averaged 70 games in a year, my mistake.

Even if you remove this season from the totals, he **still** only averaged 66 GP. And this kid wants the supermax when he can't play the role of franchise player by at least sitting on the bench since he misses 16 games per year, **on average.**

You obviously haven't read the stuff I've posted criticizing Kawhi.

[Play Boban]

The Spurs made Kawhi. He only is as good as he is because of Pop’s system. He will be a failure elsewhere. Durant was right. Watch and see. tbh.

[MoSpur02]

There are 3 other PG's on the roster: White, Murray and Forbes. I am calling BS here. There is simply NO WAY the PATFO brought any of those young guys into such a meeting with Kawhi about his future. I could see them bringing in Aldridge as the big dog on the team. I could see them bringing in Parker and/or Manu on seniority. I could see them bringing in TD, just because he sets the standard for all Spurs players to live up to. But one of White, Murray or Forbes. Nope, no way, not buying it. This detail, at least is bull ...

That's your choice. You don't have to believe it.

[MoSpur02]

No way to repair this marriage just hope we have a good attorney who will get us the kids we need and draft picks.

. Pretty much

[sasaint]

No way to repair this marriage just hope we have a good attorney who will get us the kids we need and draft picks.

We need a new "attorney", tbh.

[Chillen]

The Spurs made Kawhi. He only is as good as he is because of Pop’s system. He will be a failure elsewhere. Durant was right. Watch and see. tbh.

Haha, well the Spurs can get all the Lakers young talent for him Magic wants Kawhi on the team really bad.

[baseline bum]

Haha, well the Spurs can get all the Lakers young talent for him Magic wants Kawhi on the team really bad.

The most talented Laker is the biggest cancer in the league thanks to his re father, so gotta pass on Magic's offer unless he can make a trade for a high lottery pick.

[exstatic]

There are 3 other PG's on the roster: White, Murray and Forbes. I am calling BS here. There is simply NO WAY the PATFO brought any of those young guys into such a meeting with Kawhi about his future. I could see them bringing in Aldridge as the big dog on the team. I could see them bringing in Parker and/or Manu on seniority. I could see them bringing in TD, just because he sets the standard for all Spurs players to live up to. But one of White, Murray or Forbes. Nope, no way, not buying it. This detail, at least is bull ...

DeJounte worked out with him last summer. Maybe they thought that connection would open the dialogue.

[Pauleta14]

First, I'm not excusing what Kwahi has done in any way. He should be with the team. But I can see his issues. I said a long time ago, even last year, that Kawhi is not happy with the way Pop coaches. He doesn't like Pop undercutting him. It's not just one thing. I think its a combination of a lot of things.

-Kawhi doesn't like being subbed out when he clearly his a groove. There have been countless times where Kawhi gets rolling and Pop will just pull him mid groove. He'll have 15 in the first qtr, then gets pulled and plays 5 minutes the rest of the half. Kawhi sees other coaches let their players go on those special nights where they are just in a great rhythm. There are rare, rare occasions where pop lets him go. Kwahi wants to play like that every night, like other superstars on the league are allowed to. Tim Tony and Manu all got their chance to shine early in their careers. They "allowed" Pop's the micromanaging later. Kawhi hasn't been the man for but one year. He wants his chance to shine and put his stamp on the league.

-He doesn't like Pop pulling the plug so early on games, ESPECIALLY THE PLAYOFFS. How many time have we all seen Pop waive the white flag to start the 4th quarter. We all hate it and we don't even play. I can only imagine how much Kawhi hates it. He's been with him for 7 years and I think he's just finally had enough. All those losses add up and do damage to your overall seating come playoff time.

-He hates how all the resting changes the outcome of games before they start. So many national games, someone is always sitting out. I think he's tired of Pop not putting the best team on the floor night after night and giving games away.

-He's done with PATFO holding on to all these old guys that keep taking roster spots, and guys that can't help the team but keep getting resigned for "loyalty" or whatever, even to the detriment of the team. A token guy is okay, but the Spurs constantly have their roster filled with these guys year after year. I mean, Manu AND Tony are still on the team in 2018 and STILL counted on as major parts of the roster. If that is going to happen, fine, they're Spurs legends, but then you bring old useless Pau back? Then you sign Patty to the big contract eating up lots of cap space? That's 4 roster spots being eaten up by so-so guys. That's too many. Manu is the exception, but he's 40 and can't bring it every night anymore. Plus, three of those guys can't help you beat the Warriors. You know, the team everyone is chasing.


Again, I'm not excusing Kawhi's behavior in any way, but I can see why he is frustrated and wants to get off the Spurs team as long as Pop is coaching and the front office keeps doing what they're doing.

Why don't you just replace "he" by "I"...?

There are so many facts from his personality to his past actions that could contradict your "theories"...

With any other player, why not, but he isn't a "me" guy and has never been, Furthermore, Pop made him as good as he is WITH his "micromanagement", he would be dumb not to be aware of it. And the last argument is so ridiculous I won't waste time arguing it...

The issue has to be either way bigger than that or simply related to his (hungry) Uncle getting into his head.

[weebo]

First, I'm not excusing what Kwahi has done in any way. He should be with the team. But I can see his issues. I said a long time ago, even last year, that Kawhi is not happy with the way Pop coaches. He doesn't like Pop undercutting him. It's not just one thing. I think its a combination of a lot of things.

-Kawhi doesn't like being subbed out when he clearly his a groove. There have been countless times where Kawhi gets rolling and Pop will just pull him mid groove. He'll have 15 in the first qtr, then gets pulled and plays 5 minutes the rest of the half. Kawhi sees other coaches let their players go on those special nights where they are just in a great rhythm. There are rare, rare occasions where pop lets him go. Kwahi wants to play like that every night, like other superstars on the league are allowed to. Tim Tony and Manu all got their chance to shine early in their careers. They "allowed" Pop's the micromanaging later. Kawhi hasn't been the man for but one year. He wants his chance to shine and put his stamp on the league.

-He doesn't like Pop pulling the plug so early on games, ESPECIALLY THE PLAYOFFS. How many time have we all seen Pop waive the white flag to start the 4th quarter. We all hate it and we don't even play. I can only imagine how much Kawhi hates it. He's been with him for 7 years and I think he's just finally had enough. All those losses add up and do damage to your overall seating come playoff time.

-He hates how all the resting changes the outcome of games before they start. So many national games, someone is always sitting out. I think he's tired of Pop not putting the best team on the floor night after night and giving games away.

-He's done with PATFO holding on to all these old guys that keep taking roster spots, and guys that can't help the team but keep getting resigned for "loyalty" or whatever, even to the detriment of the team. A token guy is okay, but the Spurs constantly have their roster filled with these guys year after year. I mean, Manu AND Tony are still on the team in 2018 and STILL counted on as major parts of the roster. If that is going to happen, fine, they're Spurs legends, but then you bring old useless Pau back? Then you sign Patty to the big contract eating up lots of cap space? That's 4 roster spots being eaten up by so-so guys. That's too many. Manu is the exception, but he's 40 and can't bring it every night anymore. Plus, three of those guys can't help you beat the Warriors. You know, the team everyone is chasing.


Again, I'm not excusing Kawhi's behavior in any way, but I can see why he is frustrated and wants to get off the Spurs team as long as Pop is coaching and the front office keeps doing what they're doing.

So basically what you're saying is leonad is tired of winning.

[Mugen]

How long before he makes a formal trade request known to the media tbh? I'd be surprised if it's not by early next week

[TheGreatYacht]

How long before he makes a formal trade request known to the media tbh? I'd be surprised if it's not by early next week

If the Spurms start talking to ty teams, you bet your ass he'll talk to Windhorst and give him the only teams he'd re-sign with.

That would mean goodbye to good offer PATFO had on the table, so it's better if they just give in to Kawhi's commands and he'll remain quiet.

[SAGirl]

Dejounte AND Kyle both were going to train with Kiwi last summer. It didn't happen. In retrospect, Kiwi likely got the hamstring injury and cancelled the sessions, since his injury worsened in the summer.

I do believe Dijon admires him and has looked up him. Pop has also asked him to step up in the leadership department... Not saying I believe the account, just setting the record straight.

[spursistan]

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[YGWHI]

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This guy will kiss Kawhi's ass if he's able to heal and play at an MVP level again... Great performances and success change narratives in a second. We'll see.

[MoSpur02]

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That dude deserves the jokes. He's a sorry excuse for a teammate.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

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holy

[spursistan]

[RD2191]

This guy will kiss Kawhi's ass if he's able to heal and play at an MVP level again... Great performances and success change narratives in a second. We'll see.

Of course he will. They just enjoy kicking a player when he's down. Kawhi will be back and better than ever next season.

[Spursmania]

[RD2191]

What's with the Kawhi obsession tbh? Why not just enjoy the win?

[RD2191]

And that tweet also isn't truthful. If kawhi was cleared to play he'd be playing.

[Play Boban]

Truth bombs the power of a million supernovas.