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    Kawhi not playing doesn't help him get a supermax, nor does it help him get out of SA... he could have simply asked to leave since summer... Or simply played the year and still be offered the supermax... Kawhi obviously cares about legacy, and wouldn't blow off an entire year of his prime because he is lazy... Dude isn't Sprewell... Everything from what everyone is saying points to him being injured... Down to SA doctors being in the rehab with him in NY... he could simply tell them he doesn't want them to be there
    If he really was that injured, why not just announce himself out for the year? Why keep stringing the team along

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    tim was good as gone if Doc hadn't been re ed and agreed to let him bring his family and friends on the team plane, and people think Kiwi won't have an issue with leaving?

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    Another issue is what teams he won't sabotage a trade to.
    He's already taking a $35M haircut by forcing a trade and losing the SuperMax. If he walks next summer after the trade, he loses another year and $40M in guaranteed earnings. They're really not in a strong position. He HAS to play and play well next year.

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    He's already taking a $35M haircut by forcing a trade and losing the SuperMax. If he walks next summer after the trade, he loses another year and $40M in guaranteed earnings. They're really not in a strong position. He HAS to play and play well next year.
    Yea, some people are saying Kawhi drives a cheap car and has a cheap lifestyle so he doesn't care about money. I say, if that was the case, then why didn't he sign a deal with Nike? Why does the number matter when it comes to shoes, but not when it comes to a contract to play basketball? And if you say its about fairness, i.e., if he's as good as Harden, his shoe deal shouldn't be significantly less. But I would say, same thing with a professional contract. If he cares about fairness, then he'll want to be one of the highest paid players and that will require the super max.

    That said, even if he didn't care about money, his handlers do.

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    Yea, some people are saying Kawhi drives a cheap car and has a cheap lifestyle so he doesn't care about money. I say, if that was the case, then why didn't he sign a deal with Nike? Why does the number matter when it comes to shoes, but not when it comes to a contract to play basketball? And if you say its about fairness, i.e., if he's as good as Harden, his shoe deal shouldn't be significantly less. But I would say, same thing with a professional contract. If he cares about fairness, then he'll want to be one of the highest paid players and that will require the super max.

    That said, even if he didn't care about money, his handlers do.
    He definitely cares about money, as well as status. He thinks he's MJ already.

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    Yea, some people are saying Kawhi drives a cheap car and has a cheap lifestyle so he doesn't care about money.
    I'd say that those are traits of someone who definitely cares about money.

    Someone saving thousands of dollars on a car is for sure going to try to get as many extra millions as he can.

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    Here is what it'll boil down to:

    Pop: Stop being a pussy and ing play Goddamnit.

    Kawhi: Stop picking up G-League scrubs and expect me to carry their sorry asses.

    Pop: Done, will you stop being a pussy?

    Kawhi: Yes.

    Deal Done.
    This would be the best outcome imo lol. If he forces the FO to open the checkbook every once in awhile that would be great. Not overspending is a good philosophy overall, but at some point they should overspend. If they were a team far off from contention I could understand, but if they plan on wasting Kawhi's prime by surrounding him with scrubs then I don't blame Kawhi for wanting to bail. The Spurs wasted Robinson's career surrounding him with scrubs. It's time for a little culture change by the FO for once.

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    The Spurs are the ones that are paying him. YOU CAN SURE AS BET they can have their doctors or team personnel there if they want.



    Thanks. That would be great to know when it's supposed to take place.

    I don't know to be honest. I was told the same thing about that priority list. I know the bottom of that priority list is a center who didn't play much.

    What's your gut feeling right now?

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    So if this meeting will include veterans, and if they wanna come back (manu, tony) and they don't want kawhi back, I'll be damned if they're gonna take the side of old, washed up players and let the so called 3rd best player in the league go. Wouldn't surprise me from the spurs....
    why would the spurs include players that are on the record as not wanting Kawhi back as part of a meeting put together in order to get him back?

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    why would the spurs include players that are on the record as not wanting Kawhi back as part of a meeting put together in order to get him back?
    sources: Kawhi haters in spurstalk?

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    This would be the best outcome imo lol. If he forces the FO to open the checkbook every once in awhile that would be great. Not overspending is a good philosophy overall, but at some point they should overspend. If they were a team far off from contention I could understand, but if they plan on wasting Kawhi's prime by surrounding him with scrubs then I don't blame Kawhi for wanting to bail. The Spurs wasted Robinson's career surrounding him with scrubs. It's time for a little culture change by the FO for once.
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    Will there be a discussion who gets the 1st option? Kawhi or LMA. Because LMA has played arguably All-NBA on his absence and would probably not want to go back to last year numbers (I hate to say LMA is obsessed with his numbers but it’s true imo, although I really liked his aggressiveness as of late). Will Kawhi be okay with being the 2nd option? Was sharing with LMA a part of Kawhi maybe not wanting to go back?

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    I'm gonna try and dig out some information as to when this meeting will take place. The article is a little inaccurate though. The front office doesn't have to convince Peter Holt.
    Please do.

    In your opinion from what you have heard, do you think Kawhi is gone?

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    Will there be a discussion who gets the 1st option? Kawhi or LMA. Because LMA has played arguably All-NBA on his absence and would probably not want to go back to last year numbers (I hate to say LMA is obsessed with his numbers but it’s true imo, although I really liked his aggressiveness as of late). Will Kawhi be okay with being the 2nd option? Was sharing with LMA a part of Kawhi maybe not wanting to go back?
    No way do spurs give the supermax to a second option. And Kawhi should always always always be the first option, imo

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    Please do.

    In your opinion from what you have heard, do you think Kawhi is gone?
    I think they want to work things out. I hope they do. There was tension or whatever you wanna call it between others guys on the team and Kawhi. I hope the whole, front office, and Kawhi can patch up things and move forward. My opinion is that Kawhi is a Spur next year. Not sure if that is going to include a new contract extension. At the same time I know the Spurs are prepared to trade him and have a serious suitor in Boston if they can't work things out.

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    No way do spurs give the supermax to a second option. And Kawhi should always always always be the first option, imo
    I think as long a LA gets his touches he'll be fine. Fewer shots for everyone else is fine with me.

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    I don't know if this was posted already. I didn't read the whole thread.

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    Danny:

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    Trade leonard

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    too much drama

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    Amen Brother.

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    Has the meeting happened yet? The situation can't be resolved fast enough for me.

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    Kawhi and his Group didn't even show up to Mrs. Pop's funeral much less a Spurs meeting. No one should want him back anyway, he's damaged goods and will likely never be healthy and playing at an MVP level again.

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