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watch wcf gm1 2017 and see what Kawhi was doing against the most cowardly stacked team of the decade (maybe ever?), this is the definition of "competing for a championship," and it will only be possible with a player of this level
we've already seen peak Kawhi, he'll probably never be that good again, he'll continue be out with injury about a 3rd of the time, and he'll cost a 3rd of the cap
you consider that competing for a championship?
watch wcf gm1 2017 and see what Kawhi was doing against the most cowardly stacked team of the decade (maybe ever?), this is the definition of "competing for a championship," and it will only be possible with a player of this level
We have not enough elements to answer this question... nobody knows the extent of this drama tbh.. only a few know really what's going on. Either way I trust Spurs FO to make the right choice
I don't trust PATFO to not play with their own feces after paying Patty Mills $50 million and Gasol $48 million. They have been ing trash at making decisions the last few years.
We had no chance. Game one was fools gold, we made every shot, they missed a lot. Fluke game.
well that's your opinion even if it's a dumb one I'm not gonna try to convince you otherwise
Truth hurts my dude
He's not going to ever attract FA's. He's not a social person and is a dumb mute. That's who he will always be for the rest of his life. Expecting Kawhi's personality to change is pretty stupid its like those idiots that thought Trump's personality would change after being elected president.Kawhi is a once-in-a-lifetime player, who doesn’t come around too often in a small market like San Antonio. That’s ticket sales for the next 5 years and more. FO will suck up and forget nothing happened. But Kawhi needs to do his part to attract big name FA. He can’t just sulk in the corner for people to read his mind. He’s a special who other players want to play with when he is at his best, albeit including LeBron. I’m a Spurs fan since 1988. We’ve been spoiled with being a contender except when DRob was hurt. Keep the winning tradition.
Prepare yourself to watch a series of random GLeague players or washed up minimum vets be the SF starter for years... That's basically what you are saying.
Whatever team that wants him has to agree to take both Gasol and Mills. That would be my starting point.
Then a solid big and a serviceable sg/sf and two first.
Well 100 votes in and I admit I was clearly not reading the temperature with Spurs fans correctly, expecting a vast majority opposing the offer.
I appreciate the thought that having Leonard under a longer contract allows SA room to maneuver in future trades should the relationship sour even more.
My only thought is that will lead to further breakdown in the organization, especially if we're buying into this 'Spurs Culture' idea that has been in place since Duncan came aboard.
I vote no and it's based on all of what we've heard from media reports over the last months. Even if all is not entirely accurate there's enough of it to suggest the player and team are at odds.
So this will be like in the summer of 2001, where Derek Anderson (also coming off an injury) ended being traded because he felt insulted by the FO, and I believe Popovich wanted to move on as well. Not comparing DA to the level of a player of Leonard, but there's definitely some good pieces around the league that can make an impact on the Spurs, a lot stronger than Steve Smith in '01-'02.
Will be interesting to see how it plays out. Should be the biggest story in the league this offseason alongside James' future in Cleveland.
I'm actually completely shocked it's basically 50/50.
Imagine this time last season asking this same question and having someone tell you it would be 50/50, about a month before they can offer it?!?
You'd have told them they were out of their minds.
Yes. You either go for the championship with what you can get or you rebuild. The "making the playoffs" mantra is for teams that routinely miss the playoffs.
Still stuck in the Jordan era pay rates I see.
I don't think they should.
If he wants to stay, sure no doubt
What's 200m to Kawhi Leonard, a top 5 player in the NBA, when the Spurs just gave 100m to Paulina and Mills ?
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truth ?
sure thing
Exactly. Teams are required to spend a minimum of 90% of the cap. So they can pay an average of $43-44M annually to a top 5 player or they can spend at least a significant portion of it on a combination of significantly lesser players.
How they get to the point of making an offer is going to require a considerable amount of finesse though. To paraphrase Wojnarowski (and as was obvious), they're not going to walk in and make the offer immediately. It's a fine line between kowtowing and being stern and they've got to tightrope it. Fortunately, I think Pop is suited to run point on this.
As far as the players being involved in the decision and ownership needing to be sold, I'm not concerned with that. Players want to win and my sense is their relationship with him is more estranged than dislike, while ownership will probably follow Pop and Buford's lead and recommendation.
I'll just go back and watch the seasons where they won rings.
Or I'll watch a load more Netflix.
Would I??????????????????
i agree with the mindset that you sign him to the longest contract you can to increase his trade value
either way you offer it, yes
No. Then you have rewarded his behavior with max payout. You have to set down a marker that you won't be trifled with like this, not only as an organization but also as a member of the NBA in solidarity with other franchises hopefully doing the same to prevent these sorts of antics.
Again, had he just had himself ruled out and sat on the bench and been fully involved with the team, offer him the supermax all day long. But his AWOL BS negates that imo.
Hardly lol. The only one missing shots really was Durant, and probably had something to do with Kawhi on him, cause he went off once Kawhi went out.
... i mean duh?
The thing is, he's losing an IMMEDIATE $35M by forcing the trade. If he walks from whatever team we trade him to, he loses ANOTHER $40M, plus one year. No matter what he's done, the Spurs will still try to find him a soft landing. Like Boston. There would be no reason to leave a strong EC contender to take a lot less money from the dumpster fire that is the LAL. If they strike out this summer, they're ed. They'll have to go back into tank mode. That team of young players was TWELVE games worse than the most disfuncitonal Spurs team in two decades. Their talent isn't good enough to improve into a contender, and their picks are meh, middle of the pack.
If you'll notice what I bolded, you'll see that if 'everyone' is in the mix, we won't get low balled. Someone will geek, and then the bidding war is on.
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