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    I dont disagree.
    i did hear a rumor that the SPURS could potentially go up for Sale. Just throwing that out there. This could all be tied together in some elaborate plan... Or not be anything...

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    It's not an opinion. It's a fact. Peter Holt doesn't have a say in all this. Yes they divorced and yes there is money/property to split, but Peter Holt has nothing to do with the Spurs anymore.
    I know why. Hope things get better.

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    How come Peter Holt doesn't have a say? Why does he not have anything to do with the Spurs? Was it his choice?

    I know why. Hope things get better.
    Between the Holts?

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    How come Peter Holt doesn't have a say? Why does he not have anything to do with the Spurs? Was it his choice?



    Between the Holts?
    With himself.

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    Why do you think that I doubt the Spurs just because they could refuse to sign super-max deals in next years?
    Like any corporation, those decisions were for forecasted way in advance. The organization would have analyzed the financial impact of the supermax given that Leonard would be a strong candidate for it when the rule was originally discussed by the owners. So, if this drama had not occurred this year, I doubt anyone would be questioning giving him the supermax. Therefore, the only plausible scenario in my opinion for not offering it is the Spurs questioning Leonard’s commitment to the team or his long term health. Other than those issues, it’s a no brainer. He’s a franchise player and getting one back in any trade is very low.

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    It's not an opinion. It's a fact. Peter Holt doesn't have a say in all this. Yes they divorced and yes there is money/property to split, but Peter Holt has nothing to do with the Spurs anymore.
    Wow

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    illness or..?

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    Like any corporation, those decisions were for forecasted way in advance. The organization would have analyzed the financial impact of the supermax given that Leonard would be a strong candidate for it when the rule was originally discussed by the owners.
    Agree. But we can't say what was owners' opinion about it.

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    Matter of fact... I'd trade Aldridge for either Tatum or Jaylen Brown + fillers
    ...Jesus...you really are like gnsf circa 2010, aren't you?

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    Has he gotten back on the alcohol?

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    Agree. But we can't say what was owners' opinion about it.
    I don’t know Peter holts position on it but what I do know is NBA contract decisions are not made in a vacuum and extensive financial analysis would have been done on the impact of the supermax. This analysis would also include an evaluation of contracts on the books and future projected contracts. Therefore, the decision on whether it was financially feasible to pay the supermax would have been decided prior to this year. So there is very strong case that financially speaking the supermax is a nonissue. However, the ancillary issues at play will need to be addressed by both parties before such a commitment is given.

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    Has he gotten back on the alcohol?
    That'd be my guess. He's always had problems with it, and several very public falls from the wagon. He could have crossed a line, both to lose his position as chairman, and his marriage. Addiction is a terrible thing.

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    Did he sell his shares? He's not a Spurs' majority owner? We know he's not Spurs chairman anymore but he was still a majority owner this season.
    Peter Holt has never been the majority owner of the Spurs.

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    How do you know? Such divorces demand cash to settle and if parties don't agree it's hard to see them commit that money to an unknown prospect. It's likely to think if parts divide the money that they will want to take the most.

    If Kawhi was a secure prospect there wouldn't be any question as to offering the max, divorce or not. Now he's an unknown.

    You are en led to your own opinion, of course. I disagree, however.
    No they don't. Both Holts have seen the ridiculous sale prices of recently sold teams. Julianna isn't your typical (former) owner's wife. She understands the business, and that the team will only become MORE valuable. You can transfer shares instead of cash. Neither one of them is dumb enough to sell even one share in this cash cow of an NBA franchise.

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    No they don't. Both Holts have seen the ridiculous sale prices of recently sold teams. Julianna isn't your typical (former) owner's wife. She understands the business, and that the team will only become MORE valuable. You can transfer shares instead of cash. Neither one of them is dumb enough to sell even one share in this cash cow of an NBA franchise.
    lol

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    They're gonna try to lowball him, IMO... pretty typical Spurs move, tbqh

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    They're gonna try to lowball him, IMO... pretty typical Spurs move, tbqh
    People keep on saying lowball. If it was a year ago, sure not offering him the supermax would be lowballing him. But now? He's a guy on a medical mystery injury with NO projected return date. How can you put 35% of your cap for 5 years into that?

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    People keep on saying lowball. If it was a year ago, sure not offering him the supermax would be lowballing him. But now? He's a guy on a medical mystery injury with NO projected return date. How can you put 35% of your cap for 5 years into that?
    Superior talent like him is just not generally available, tbh... especially for a small market team. Half the league will probably take that gamble...

    What’s more, not offering it could look as retaliatory...

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    If this was the NFL people wouldn't even consider giving a player coming off injury that kind of contract.

    Just let Kawhi play and qualify again for the supermax next season or trade him for picks

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    If this was the NFL people wouldn't even consider giving a player coming off injury that kind of contract.

    Just let Kawhi play and qualify again for the supermax next season or trade him for picks
    Huh?? Too much of a risk... Kawhi could just leave for nothing if we field a trash team around him... U HAVE to resign him now... Unless u want a media circus next year... If u think this year was bad, the Spurs dissing him by not offering supermax, and Kawhi leaving because of it will be the talk of every broadcast

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    It's hard to offer a super max for what he did/didnt do. It's not just the injury, it was the complete absents from the team. If he played his 9 games, did rehab in SA, and cheered from the bench in home games, head office offers the super max. Leonard group decisions should cost them money. They deserve that.

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    Well now that PG is leaving OKC that means even less teams who will have cap space a summer from now

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    Old interview from 2014 but interesting question asked at 3:46 mark.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYl7NJZLJZo

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    Old interview from 2014 but interesting question asked at 3:46 mark.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYl7NJZLJZo
    "Uh... whatever makes him happy." Pretty much what you would expect from Kawhi.

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    Did he sell his shares? He's not a Spurs' majority owner? We know he's not Spurs chairman anymore but he was still a majority owner this season.
    You're speculating. You know for sure he is/was the majority owner?

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