Lowe: Celtics starting point for Leonard likely Tatum and Kings 1st

[SAGirl]

The Celtics are in the 2nd round with their you core.. WITHOUT THEIR 2 STARS!!!! Why in Sam would they trade away thst for a quiter or injury prone mute who's uncle controls him talking to management!?! Not to mention giving up picks too.

Yup. I never believed Celtics are even remotely interested unless it was in a firesale, like them sending us Hayward who also missed a season with an ugly fracture and wasn't ever as good as Kiwi was... No thanks Boston.

[raybies]

The Celtics are in the 2nd round with their you core.. WITHOUT THEIR 2 STARS!!!! Why in Sam would they trade away thst for a quiter or injury prone mute who's uncle controls him talking to management!?! Not to mention giving up picks too.

I was literally coming here to make a thread of all things about the same... If we were lucky enough to get 2 of the Brown, Tatum, and Rozier three, why would they include a draft pick... They are best not making a move at all tbh. They got a young cheap workforce while they pay Irving, Hayward and Horford and then when they come up to the end of the contracts they have the leverage. Take pay cuts or we go young. They are already winning with Rozier, Brown and Tatum. Boston gonna be adding banners someday soon. Philly and Boston are the future if they stay healthy and they have some long ass windows if they keep it together and don't screw it up.

Like I said, Boston would be stupid to part with their core for Leonard cause they have a very bright future.

[TheGreatYacht]

It feels like the best theyre gonna get is that Clips deal, Harris and their 2 picks. Leonard’s uncle can just say, nah, only place he’s extending is LA, so we’ll wait it out until UFA.

Yep....

Spurs would go into the draft with 3 (potentially 4, if they trade LMA) Top 20 draft picks. Let them develop for 3 years while the Fatty/Gasoft albatrosses expire & Parker gets his wish of a 20 year career. Best case scenario for sure.

[spursistan]

There is also this theory that Brad Stevens is making Tatum/Brown/Rozier look better than they are..I would be actually weary to trade a healthy Kawhi for one of these dudes to be coached by 2018 Poop ..

[SAGirl]

There is also this theory that Brad Stevens is making Tatum/Brown/Rozier look better than they are..I would be actually weary to trade a healthy Kawhi for one of these dudes to be coached by 2018 Poop ..

They are all young and talented though (high lotto picks and Rozier has improved shooting).
Discrediting what they have done bc of the system is like discrediting what Kiwi did back b4 he was an established star bc of the system...

[CGD]

Yep....

Spurs would go into the draft with 3 (potentially 4, if they trade LMA) Top 20 draft picks. Let them develop for 3 years while the Fatty/Gasoft albatrosses expire & Parker gets his wish of a 20 year career. Best case scenario for sure.

It’s not a bad benchmark to have actually, and who knows, maybe Leonarda uncle is down with NYC. The will NYC try to top the Clip offer with a package centered around KP + Pick? If NYC becomes a player then division rivals BOS and PHI perk up.

[TimDunkem]

There is also this theory that Brad Stevens is making Tatum/Brown/Rozier look better than they are..I would be actually weary to trade a healthy Kawhi for one of these dudes to be coached by 2018 Poop ..

Pop would run the offense through Fatty or 41 year old Manu in a lineup with all three of Tatum/Brown/Rozier reduced to the role of spot up shooters.

[SuperCam]

if you get jason tatum you do it tbh. he would be miles better than the culture scrubs from day 0

[KDKSpurs24]

If I was Boston I wouldn’t many ANY trades at all. This team will be amazing when healthy. Even the stars will fit nicely together and they will move the ball really well.

[TheGreatYacht]

Brad Stevens is the coach casuals think Poop is, tbh.

Winning playoff games without his top 3 players, wow....

[KDKSpurs24]

There is also this theory that Brad Stevens is making Tatum/Brown/Rozier look better than they are..I would be actually weary to trade a healthy Kawhi for one of these dudes to be coached by 2018 Poop ..

I’ve been watching Rozier closely and that’s definitely not the case. He’s been taking and making huge shots. Tonight he’s been great.

[SAGirl]

Pop would run the offense through Fatty or 41 year old Manu in a lineup with with all three of Tatum/Brown/Rozier reduced to the role of spot up shooters.

Disgusting and only half trolling... Part of me wants the team to tank... Although I have been vocal about it. I am as disgusted as everyone else with the status of the team. Kiwi turning into a diva is the cherry on top.

[TimDunkem]

I’ve been watching Rozier closely and that’s definitely not the case. He’s been taking and making huge shots. Tonight he’s been great.

That's what a dynamic guard looks like. Unfortunately, we have to watch a fat thieving Aussie scrub, an IG baller, and geriatrics handle the ball for the Spurs.

[spursistan]

Pop would run the offense through Fatty or 41 year old Manu in a lineup with all three of Tatum/Brown/Rozier reduced to the role of spot up shooters.

Thinkin' those numbers will translate in SA

[SAGirl]

Thinkin' those numbers will translate in SA

Would instantly be the Spurs best guard. He might be overwhelmed from having to carry geriatrics and shooters that can't shoot though.

He's due for an extension. At some point Ainge has to trade guys out bc he can't afford to pay everybody.

[Emperor]

So Tatum/Rozier and a pick certainly seems like a pretty good option for Kawhi now

[cd021]

The minute he gets traded to LA he'll get a $100M shoe endorsement. He's got all the leverage in the world.

He isn't getting traded to L.A so he really doesn't

[cd021]

So Tatum/Rozier and a pick certainly seems like a pretty good option for Kawhi now

1 pick definitely isn't enough tbh

[Emperor]

1 pick definitely isn't enough tbh

Let's just hope Ainge is kind enough to add that second pick depending on how far the Celts advance these playoffs.

[SuperCam]

1 pick definitely isn't enough tbh

if jason tatum keeps scoring 25+ in the playoffs while kiwi limps around NY while his uncle drags him around it will be spur having to throw in the pick

[DaBears]

Danny had better be prepared to push a BUNCH of chip into the pot. Spurs won’t give him away, knowing what’s in Boston’s cupboard.

Boston would have a sick team... Kyre I. | G. Hayward | Kiwi | & swamp-thing... Those 3 are nice trio to have in a starting lineup.

[DaBears]

So Tatum/Rozier and a pick certainly seems like a pretty good option for Kawhi now

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You have to look at it like this.. Best case scenario what is the ceiling for both of these players you've mentioned..

Tatum - Best case scenario what is his ceiling as a player? Better than Kiwi by Year 6..
Rozier - Best case Scenario, what is his ceiling as a player? Better than TP in his prime or a better version of Rod Strickland ( and going back some years )? If either of these players ceiling doesnt match or come close than it needs to be more..

[Emperor]

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You have to look at it like this.. Best case scenario what is the ceiling for both of these players you've mentioned..

Tatum - Best case scenario what is his ceiling as a player? Better than Kiwi by Year 6..
Rozier - Best case Scenario, what is his ceiling as a player? Better than TP in his prime or a better version of Rod Strickland ( and going back some years )? If either of these players ceiling doesnt match or come close than it needs to be more..

Absolutely agree but the more they impress these playoffs the more Ainge might be willing to play hardball with the Spurs. He could use the argument that his team managed to get this far without their two best players and Kawhi so he may not be willing to give up too much in return. If they end up in the Conference Finals then why would they even be interested in Kawhi and "his group" and his possible chronic quad pain when all they would possibly need is Kyrie and Hayward to return to achieve the next step. The loser of this Celtics/76ers series would be the ones the Spurs might be able to get more out of if they show interest.

[cd021]

Absolutely agree but the more they impress these playoffs the more Ainge might be willing to play hardball with the Spurs. He could use the argument that his team managed to get this far without their two best players and Kawhi so he may not be willing to give up too much in return. If they end up in the Conference Finals then why would they even be interested in Kawhi and "his group" and his possible chronic quad pain when all they would possibly need is Kyrie and Hayward to return to achieve the next step. The loser of this Celtics/76ers series would be the ones the Spurs might be able to get more out of if they show interest.

If Philly is interested then they could put together a more than compe ive offer; something like

Fultz, Saric, Covington, and 10th pick

For Kawhi and Mills

[cd021]

if jason tatum keeps scoring 25+ in the playoffs while kiwi limps around NY while his uncle drags him around it will be spur having to throw in the pick

Leonard isn't coming off a major injury (though, with him every injury is a major injury amirite? )

To be serious, moving a legit top 3 player for last year 3rd pick and Rozier plus the Kings pick (probably around 7th Next year) is Ainge's kind of trade. He gets the best player without giving up all that much to do so.

Th Kings and Grizzlies picks (which both would probably fall into the 7-13 range next year) on top of Rozier and Tatum and Morris ( I think he would have to be included to match up salary) is much more of a fair deal.

Spurs would have three picks next season, to go along with Tatum, Murray, and this year's pick to help the rebuild.

Boston would have a core of Hayward, Horford, Kyrie, Kawhi and Brown too.