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    @what Jabari wrote. So if the Spurs don't offer the super max deal then they're pretty much outta here. Bye then. And Philly? Let's not forget Jabari is a Philly dude. Of course he would love to see Kawhi in a Sixers uniform.

    That pick plus Sairic, Covington, and Fultz? No thanks
    looks like jabari rushed to get that out as soon as he read the ESPN article just so that he could save face and give the impression that he has some clue as to what is going on with the leonard scenario. dude has been clueless since training camp when he claimed his sources told him that leonard would only miss the first week or two of the season.

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    looks like jabari rushed to get that out as soon as he read the ESPN article just so that he could save face and give the impression that he has some clue as to what is going on with the leonard scenario. dude has been clueless since training camp when he claimed his sources told him that leonard would only miss the first week or two of the season.
    In an effort to become an insider, he became instead a dupe and a mouthpiece.

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    Jalen is 100% incorrect. Kawhi, if he’s traded, cannot recoup that lost money via the SuperMax. If he’s traded or walks in Free Agency he will never have that chance again.
    Last edited by DPG21920; 05-01-2018 at 04:45 PM.

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    Agreed. But Miami and Cleveland got les out of it. Maybe these groups are the cost of doing business these days....Again, what a blessing Timmy was.
    Miami didn't appease Lebron that's why he left. They won 2 les doing it there way and Lebron got fed up with not having power and left. Like I said before Cleveland only won a le due to Draymond being stupid. This is a flawed model that doesn't usually work out. I look at the Warriors who are now the gold standard of the NBA and it's very clear Lacob runs the show. It was evident when he refused to give Curry a no trade clause when re-upping him last summer.

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    Still should have showed up behind the bench for the gsw series. No excuse for missing that and maybe it would have helped in the home games.

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    This is going to be the longest thread in SpursTalk history if people quote the article.

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    The most interesting take is at 4:45 when Ramona states "My reporting on this says that he's close and all he really needs is a summer to get himself ready."

    Still, she indicates that there is much uncertainty regarding the injury.

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    so the Spurs PR stopped that interview and not Kawhi's "group"

    that sounds weird

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    If it goes all the way from no SuperMax to Kawhi walks away from whatever team holds his Bird rights next summer, he will lose $80M, from $219M to $139M.
    If he signs elsewhere, what’s the potential of Kawhi making the difference or more from endorsements, with his demeanor and marketability? I mean the guy doesn’t really talk, or personable. His mother even mentioned he doesn’t even want to be the face of the franchise. It’s not his personality. So I doubt he makes so much more in endorsements somewhere else. He’ll get more, but I doubt in the same range with LeBron or CP3. Moneywise his best option is with the Spurs with the Supermax.

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    This is going to be the longest thread in SpursTalk history if people quote the article.
    But more interesting than talking about Jimmer...

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    The most interesting take is at 4:45 when Ramona states "My reporting on this says that he's close and all he really needs is a summer to get himself ready."

    Still, she indicates that there is much uncertainty regarding the injury.
    He's been close since August. At least Jabari says so.

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    If he signs elsewhere, what’s the potential of Kawhi making the difference or more from endorsements, with his demeanor and marketability? I mean the guy doesn’t really talk, or personable. His mother even mentioned he doesn’t even want to be the face of the franchise. It’s not his personality. So I doubt he makes so much more in endorsements somewhere else. He’ll get more, but I doubt in the same range with LeBron or CP3. Moneywise his best option is with the Spurs with the Supermax.
    I don't think he'll ever make up the money, and if he even comes close, his uncle will skim off the top.

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    none of the videos get into the whole uncle/representation dynamic either and how thats led to this situation as well...

    Plus you can't draw paralells to IT and Kwahi. IT, if I read correctly, has Femoroacetabular impingement which causes early degenerative joint disease and labral tears. Boston knew that. Thats a developmental structural issue. Fixing that is a big ordeal, partial osteotomy.

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    I don't think he'll ever make up the money, and if he even comes close, his uncle will skim off the top.

    i think they got into that on the lowe podcast. Kwahi isn't marketable because he doesn't want to. Doesn't do social media, etc. His group thinks he deserves $10 million a year because he's a top 5 player. But other players market themselves. Nike developed the Klaw...

    They want there cake and to eat it too.

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    Good article. Uncle Dennis is definitely the man in control if all the business aspects.

    The article gave some insight into the injury and it doesn't appear to be over which isn't reassuring.

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    I can see his group demanding a trade in the second year of the super max deal. Anybody who thinks we can get Simmons or Embiid traded to us good luck with that.

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    The most interesting take is at 4:45 when Ramona states "My reporting on this says that he's close and all he really needs is a summer to get himself ready."
    Of course his team is going to say this when he's looking at a $219 million payday.

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    I can see his group demanding a trade in the second year of the super max deal. Anybody who thinks we can get Simmons or Embiid traded to us good luck with that.
    If he's not playing well enough that the Spurs would even consider trading him it means he never got healthy and that contract will have become an untradeable albatross.

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    If his quad is still not right after all this time and attention, it may never be right. Damn shame and so unlucky. I don't think anyone to blame, it's a bad cir stance which has in turn caused other dominoes to fall.
    Agreed. As Pop said multiple times it's an unfortunate situation.

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    To me the whole thing boils down to something very simple. He is soft and refuse to play through a relatively minor injury. From everything we have heard this is not a serious injury. Players have played through worse. Nicks and pains, sprains and bruises. It’s a man’s game. You didn’t man up. Is this issue really that much worse than a player breaking their orbital bone? Or sprained ankle four or five times badly in a given season? No.

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    Sign him, that is all that matters. Once that happens you have full control.

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    If he signs elsewhere, what’s the potential of Kawhi making the difference or more from endorsements, with his demeanor and marketability? I mean the guy doesn’t really talk, or personable. His mother even mentioned he doesn’t even want to be the face of the franchise. It’s not his personality. So I doubt he makes so much more in endorsements somewhere else. He’ll get more, but I doubt in the same range with LeBron or CP3. Moneywise his best option is with the Spurs with the Supermax.
    Can't assume the super max is available

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    I don't need an apology from Kawhi to fans for what happened this year. I can believe that he was mishandled, that there was some blame on both sides or whatever. If it seems like his teammates forgive him, I wouldn't hold him a grudge, because the broken chemistry was really my main issue with how Leonard has been handling this so far.

    However, this does not mean I'd want him to get a DPE contract. The article pretty much suggests what I had said earlier: The Spurs believe Kawhi's injury is permanent while Kawhi's camp believes it's something he can recover from if given enough time. A Kawhi who's never more than a part-time player again is simply not worth the DPE. That was one of the worst additions to a CBA that I've seen in a long time. Very few players are worth it, and even fewer teams can afford the contract regardless of what players they have. A healthy and fully committed Kawhi is as worth it on his end, but it was always going to be a dicey proposition for the team to accommodate him. A Leonard is never reaches his former heights isn't worth that.
    Agree 100% not even sure my desperate ass Lakers should sign him to a max deal..the last CBA was dumb ... now teams like Memphis are forced to overpay for dudes like Conley.

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    Sign him, that is all that matters. Once that happens you have full control.
    I know Magic and Pelinka will flame out eventually but you really think RC can con those two idiots into paying for $50mil for a brokedown Kawhi in a year or two?

    Actually, looking back to what Jeanie gave Kirby in his thank you deal, I'm with you.

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