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    I would probably agree as things currently stand. If Kawhi signs some type of extension though knowing it will be for him to be traded?

    Ainge the stingy mormon is not trading two cost controlled assets for Kiwi and his health issues on a max, never going to happen. PATFO will be offered Brown and their 2019 SAC pick at best tbh...

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    Zero chance both Tatum and Brown are included in a potential deal with Boston imo. It’d likely be Brown + Rozier + picks as the initial offer from Ainge. Then RC would conter-offer with a demand for Tatum + Rozier OR Morris (to match salaries) + 2 Lotto picks.

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    Just make a team eat Pau’s deal please. That’s my only request.

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    Zero chance both Tatum and Brown are included in a potential deal with Boston imo. It’d likely be Brown + Rozier + picks as the initial offer from Ainge. Then RC would conter-offer with a demand for Tatum + Rozier OR Morris (to match salaries) + 2 Lotto picks.
    I think the Boston offer will either have Hayward or horford in it. Boston won't pay Hayward, horford, Kawhi, and kyrie.

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    Just make a team eat Pau’s deal please. That’s my only request.
    Problem is how do you manage to match, both, Kawhi and Pau's salaries?

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    Problem is how do you manage to match, both, Kawhi and Pau's salaries?
    Kawhi and pau for Hayward and either Tatum or Brown works with the cap.

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    Problem is how do you manage to match, both, Kawhi and Pau's salaries?
    There are several teams with enough cap space to absorb Kawhi/Pau while sending out much less salary. Or even someone close to Pau’s annual, but on a one year deal.

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    There are several teams with enough cap space to absorb Kawhi/Pau while sending out much less salary. Or even someone close to Pau’s annual, but on a one year deal.
    Do those teams also have the necessary assets for a Kawhi deal?

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    Spurfan demanding Tatum, Brown, AND a pick?!?!

    You'll get Rozier & Morris and you'll love it.

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    Do those teams also have the necessary assets for a Kawhi deal?
    I think part of the assets are being able to absorb a bad contract, but yes. PHI has assets and cap space. Lakers have some assets and lots of cap space. Suns maybe (possible first pick as the asset).

    I mean, it’s not a lot of teams, but PHI and LAL for sure do.

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    Agree, plus we can move on from Patty. Then You have flexibility to package Murray and 18 for something.
    No to packaging Murray and 18, doesn't make a lot of sense tbh

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    No to packaging Murray and 18, doesn't make a lot of sense tbh
    Just depends on what you're getting back.

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    Some guys here "Kawhi's quad is ed, he will never be the same player, Spurs can't give him a super-max deal"

    Celtics' offer: Smart + Morris + Ojelele for him.

    The same guys here "But but this isn't enough, he's still a top 5 player..."

    If fans think his injury is an issue I wonder how a GM like Ainge wouldn't think the same...Many teams will try to lowball the Spurs this offseason, C's included.

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    I have a feeling it’s going to be Philly Kiwi knows the coach and they have a ton of good players and draft picks. I actually think we could move Kawhi and Mills they need outside shooters and Mills would be perfect coming off the bench
    On the Lowe post podcast, Ramona shelburn states that the doctor Kawhi is using for his rehab in New York has connections with the Philadelphia 76ers and, while not the team doctor, is a specialist that the team uses

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    Some guys here "Kawhi's quad is ed, he will never be the same player, Spurs can't give him a super-max deal"

    Celtics' offer: Smart + Morris + Ojelele for him.

    The same guys here "But but this isn't enough, he's still a top 5 player..."

    If fans think his injury is an issue I wonder how a GM like Ainge wouldn't think the same...Many teams will try to lowball the Spurs this offseason, C's included.
    If fans and GM’s thought the same the league would look a lot different

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    Just depends on what you're getting back.
    Murray and Fultz would be the future starting back court with Saric as the 4 and the 10th and 18th picks to potential take a 5 or a wing. If Parsecniks is apart of a deal for Kawhi then he projects as a possible modern starting center.

    I would prefer that scenario more.

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    Murray and Fultz would be the future starting back court with Saric as the 4 and the 10th and 18th picks to potential take a 5 or a wing. If Parsecniks is apart of a deal for Kawhi then he projects as a possible modern starting center.

    I would prefer that scenario more.
    A Murray/Fultz backcourt would suck major ass.

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    A Murray/Fultz backcourt would suck major ass.
    Fultz was a damn good shooter in college; have no idea what happened. If he can regain his shot then he still has a chance to be damn good. But it’s a crazy situation. Never seen anything like it

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    I agree actually— i also see Philly as a Danny free agent destination by the way.

    Deal around Fultz (who they have to move with Simmons, right?) + Saric + 10 + Convington’s salary seems appealing. Maybe we get a 2nd (they own 38, 39 and 56) or Bolden/AP for Kyle.

    Starting:
    Fultz
    Convington
    [FA/pick]
    Saric
    LMA

    Then I’d shop 18 + Murray to seeing i can move up.



    Covington could be a useful trade chip in the future but I would prefer this roster a lot more;


    Fultz, Murray, Covington, Saric, LMA

    Parker, Manu*, Green, Gay, Gasol

    White, Anderson, 10th pick, 18th pick, Bertans

    * If Manu retires, then Parker, Green, Anderson, Gay, and Gasol as the bench rotation
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    A Murray/Fultz backcourt would suck major ass.
    Probably wouldn't be good next season but In the future would be an ideal tandem. Fultz was considering to one of the better shooters in the draft but had a shoulder surgery that had caused issues with his form. He is still a really good prospect though

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    Fultz was a damn good shooter in college; have no idea what happened. If he can regain his shot then he still has a chance to be damn good. But it’s a crazy situation. Never seen anything like it
    What exactly happened? I don't know anything about the situation. Did he damage his shoulder to the point where he hasn't/can't seem to regain his shot? Someone mentioned it's a mental thing? I didn't follow Philly during the regular season much.

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    What exactly happened? I don't know anything about the situation. Did he damage his shoulder to the point where he hasn't/can't seem to regain his shot? Someone mentioned it's a mental thing? I didn't follow Philly during the regular season much.
    Probably both, apparently.

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    What exactly happened? I don't know anything about the situation. Did he damage his shoulder to the point where he hasn't/can't seem to regain his shot? Someone mentioned it's a mental thing? I didn't follow Philly during the regular season much.
    Honestly I followed it and still dont’ know. I think it’s both, but he literally forgot how to shoot. He supposedly was working on “changing his form” and that messed everything up then the injury happened and made it worse. It’s like when a catcher in baseball can’t throw the ball back to the pitcher.

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    I mean, BOS is much more attractive. I would rather have Brown or Tatum over Fultz/Saric and the Kings pick looks to be better than PHI pick.

    PHI can absorb Mills or Pau though

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    People thinking that a potential Kawhi trade to Philly for a package including Fultz is good is confusing to me. Fultz's situation is just as mysterious as Kawhi's situation.

    Fultz supposedly started working on tweaking his jumper before the season and apparently that missed up his jump shot altogether. Then the Sixers made a statement that Fultz couldn't even raise his shoulder. It's as much as a mystery as Kawhi's. No one really knows I don't think except for Fultz & the Sixers as to what really happened to Fultz's jumper. Personally I think his jumper was just fine outta college.

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