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    I don’t listen or support anything with Nick Wright. Dude is straight up annoying and terrible.
    he is beyond annoying and horrible as a analyst
    but even worse claims to be a analytics guy but uses them tily.

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    delusions you went from not wanting this 4 weeks ago ...but now celts probably wont even give you this much ...

    I've since soured on that Cas deal. I don't think there is much star talent outside of the top 5. That pick doesn't look quite as good as it did then, particularly because there were a bunch of teams bunched up together and that pick could've just as early been 4th or 5th.

    Still better than anything that the Lakers can offer tbh

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    Philly still has the best package. Things Spurs have going for them:

    1. Underperforming against BOS might make them extra motivated.

    2. Fultz has very little body of work to show this year (the exact opposite of Tatum).

    3. They have an army of 2nd rounder in this draft which can help sweeten the pot.

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    Great news: Lebron is watching Sixers get exposed and Brett Brown isn't on the same universe as Stevens

    Bad news: Houston is probably the favorite to land him.
    I agree regarding Houston..but apparently they’re having internal conflicts on whether to gut the team..

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    he is beyond annoying and horrible as a analyst
    but even worse claims to be a analytics guy but uses them tily.
    He's always struck me as someone whose in the closet.

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    ^^ Expecting Philly to make big push for Kawhi trade, though. Neither Simmons nor the overrated bigmouth Embiid is anywhere near the closer they need in these type of playoffs games. They need to match Boston glaring wing advantage..
    Spurs too, but PATFO prefers undersized guards who can shoot 45% 3pt in practice but only 30% in real games

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    He's always struck me as someone whose in the closet.
    married to a black chick with mixed babies ...
    but plenty of gay dudes were once married and ate out the closet now ...

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    married to a black chick with mixed babies ...
    but plenty of gay dudes were once married and ate out the closet now ...
    Yeah I have known he's been married for a while now but still suspected him being in the closet. It's funny I had never heard about him until last year when a friend of mine sent me a clip of him. The first thought that entered my mind was wow this guy is pretty gay. Then I googled to see if he was married and found out like you said he was married to a black woman. I believe his wife is his beard.

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    married to a black chick with mixed babies ...
    but plenty of gay dudes were once married and ate out the closet now ...
    What the does race have to do with this?

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    CLE Gets: Kawhi

    PHX Gets: Kevin Love & LaMarcus Aldridge

    SA Gets: PHX first rounder this year (likely number 1), CLE’s 8th pick & Josh Jackson (and any other player needed to make money work)

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    CLE Gets: Kawhi

    PHX Gets: Kevin Love & LaMarcus Aldridge

    SA Gets: PHX first rounder this year (likely number 1), CLE’s 8th pick & Josh Jackson (and any other player needed to make money work)
    At the notion of the Suns giving up, if not the number 1 pick, close and the 4th pick from a year ago for a pair of bigs who'll be 33 and 30, respectively, at the start of next season.

    Even though they could be, they wouldn't even be a good fit because of ego. It's one thing for Love to play floor spacer for the best player in the league and before this season another All-Star perimeter player. It's another to do it for a comparable big, who I'm sure he believes he's better than . . . and vice versa for Aldridge.

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    PHX has been trying to lure both of those players in recent years. They are both still good players. PHX wants to win and can pair two solid vets while keeping Booker to become a playoff team now.

    Would I do that if I were them? Probably not, but I can see the reasoning behind it if they are desperate.

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    PHX has been trying to lure both of those players in recent years. They are both still good players. PHX wants to win and can pair two solid vets while keeping Booker to become a playoff team now.

    Would I do that if I were them? Probably not, but I can see the reasoning behind it if they are desperate.
    One of Bender or Chriss, along with the 16th pick, is a more realistic offer for one of them.

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    One of Bender or Chriss, along with the 16th pick, is a more realistic offer for one of them.
    Disagree. I would not trade LMA for that nor would CLE trade Love for that.

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    Disagree. I would not trade LMA for that nor would CLE trade Love for that.
    I didn't say they would. Obviously, that trade would make no sense for two organizations with current championship aspirations. I'm saying, I think that's what they'd fetch.

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    I think PHX could definitely be the team to try and think short term. We will see. Both Love and LMA are still good and under contract so they can’t bolt.

    I agree, is that worth the #1 pick? I don’t know, but maybe.

    CLE would definitely trade #8 for Kawhi.

    It would hinge on PHX.

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    CLE Gets: Kawhi

    PHX Gets: Kevin Love & LaMarcus Aldridge

    SA Gets: PHX first rounder this year (likely number 1), CLE’s 8th pick & Josh Jackson (and any other player needed to make money work)
    Don't see them giving up #1. I do wonder what love would bring in that 3 team trade if we didn't include LA? Could we jet Jackson and bender for him or is that to rich?

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    If LMA is not in the deal, I think you could sub in the 16th pick. But I do get the sense PHX would be wiling to really make a splash if Kawhi was going to them.

    I wonder if Kawhi would sign there, if there were even a 50% chance they thought Kawhi would sign there they will go guns blazing for him IMO.

    This is the leagues chance to pull a Harden. The thing with OKC was different but everyone sees the potential for that to happen and how it’s franchise changing

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    If LMA is not in the deal, I think you could sub in the 16th pick. But I do get the sense PHX would be wiling to really make a splash if Kawhi was going to them.

    I wonder if Kawhi would sign there, if there were even a 50% chance they thought Kawhi would sign there they will go guns blazing for him IMO.

    This is the leagues chance to pull a Harden. The thing with OKC was different but everyone sees the potential for that to happen and how it’s franchise changing
    I do think Phoenix can make the strongest trade proposal for Kawhi if they choose to.

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    With each passing game my dream of getting Tatum gets more and more distant.

    That Irving injury kicked us on the butt. If only he was still out there chucking.

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    Yep, this sucks. I haven't watched any Celtics games in the playoffs, actually, maybe I did watch one game in round 1. I was hoping that they would lose so that helps the Spurs out if they are looking to trade with them.

    Is Tatum playing that well? Is he there main offensive option?

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    You're just saying not to play hardball, to take a Lakers crap offer if that's the best you get. I don't think you take an offer you don't like just because it might be slightly better than getting nothing. I'd tell Leonard he's getting suspended for the season and follow up on it with the hopes that he either expands his list of teams he'd sign an extension with or gets his agent to light a fire under the Lakers' asses to get them to make a move for assets the Spurs would want. If the worst case scenario is it doesn't work out and the team loses out on some crap like Kuzma I'll live with it, especially since it would Leonard over by having him miss a second season of basketball. I don't think it would come to that because I can't imagine he can live with a second year away from the game, but he already stole $19 million from the team this year so I could give a about him if he tries to the Spurs over again by depressing his trade value with threats to only sign in LA.
    So cutting off your nose to spite your face then. How does that play with future free agents? You get nothing but hey, at least you stuck it to Kawhi!

    So dumb. The Spurs are a professional sports franchise, not a vehicle for being petty.

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    So cutting off your nose to spite your face then. How does that play with future free agents? You get nothing but hey, at least you stuck it to Kawhi!

    So dumb. The Spurs are a professional sports franchise, not a vehicle for being petty.
    Daring Leonard to sit out a second season isn't being petty; it's much more likely he'd either expand his list of teams he'd go to or the Lakers would have to sweeten the offer. I would much rather try to maximize the expected value of the return I got than take a crap worst case deal. Besides, if that doesn't work you could always do the crap Kuzma deal right before the trade deadline if the suspension hasn't worked just so you can say you didn't lose him for absolutely nothing. I don't know why you don't want the Spurs to play hardball when Uncle Dennis obviously is. You call it cutting off your nose to spite your face but I call it the only way the Spurs could get any leverage whatsoever if Leonard pulls a Paul George and no one offers anything decent before the season starts. Do you actually think Leonard would be willing to sit next season out if the Spurs don't trade him to the Lakers? I think the odds he would do that are extremely low. If you think they're high I could understand your objection more.
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    That's an interesting approach to take, and I wouldn't be against it if Uncle Dennis and Kawhi tries to screw the Spurs over. I would definitely consider it if they play hardball and try to screw the Spurs over with demands and a very short list of teams he'd only play for IF he wants out.

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    You think you increase your leverage by waiting for the trade deadline? You have no leverage at that point. The Lakers are probably going to burn their cap room this summer. They're not waiting to the trade deadline for a possibility at Leonard. I also don't know why you're limiting this to the Lakers.

    If Kawhi isn't staying, the Spurs need to move on THIS summer. Makes no damn sense to wait.

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