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  1. #176
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    that's why i said you will be on the books 18 million next season and he will be a valuable trade asset for 2019. If spurs are looking for higher draft pick positioning than a deal with clippers would make more sense since they have the draft pick from Detroit for the blake griffin trade. Most likely it will be Detroit 2018 draft pick clippers 2019 draft pick and possibly tobias harris and Patrick Beverly for Leonard. even to me that sounds like compared to Ingram and Randle. rather have the potential player over the draft pick tbh
    Harris + Beverley + two late lottery firsts is a way better return than Ingram. Randle isn't worth the $20 to $25 million he'll demand to be part of a sign and trade, I don't know why you keep trying to shoehorn that pos into trades.

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    Harris + Beverley + two late lottery firsts is a way better return than Ingram. Randle isn't worth the $20 to $25 million he'll demand to be part of a sign and trade, I don't know why you keep trying to shoehorn that pos into trades.
    that POS averaged a double double and 1.5 blocks per game for the last 30 games and he played all season. both of those players have a lot of potential. I just see them more valuable than harris bev and the 2 draft picks. However, If spurs and clippers pull off a trade like that than I hope it happens because i don't see kiwi signing long term with the clippers.

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    that POS averaged a double double and 1.5 blocks per game for the last 30 games and he played all season. both of those players have a lot of potential. I just see them more valuable than harris bev and the 2 draft picks. However, If spurs and clippers pull off a trade like that than I hope it happens because i don't see kiwi signing long term with the clippers.
    Randle isn't worth the payday he'll get and he makes no sense for the Spurs with a much better player in Aldridge playing the same position. Why would you think anyone is enthralled by someone who is the Lakers Plan D this summer? Players who put up empty stats on a garbage team are a dime a dozen.

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    Randle isn't worth the payday he'll get and he makes no sense for the Spurs with a much better player in Aldridge playing the same position. Why would you think anyone is enthralled by someone who is the Lakers Plan D this summer? Players who put up empty stats on a garbage team are a dime a dozen.
    who else can you get? kawhi is owed 40 million dollars. what other players are out there that can match that kind of salary without giving up a lot.

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    who else can you get? kawhi is owed 40 million dollars. what other players are out there that can match that kind of salary without giving up a lot.
    Leonard's not owed $40 million, where are you getting this from? His salary next year is $20 million.

    https://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio_spurs/

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    Leonard's not owed $40 million, where are you getting this from? His salary next year is $20 million.

    https://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio_spurs/
    ok fine 20 with an opt out. who would you go with

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    I wouldnt trade Patty Mills for BALL and a 2nd RD pick. naw!!!

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    I wouldnt trade Patty Mills for BALL and a 2nd RD pick. naw!!!

    than you are what they call a dumbass... 100% grade A for brains dumbass.. good thing your not a GM

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    I wouldnt trade Patty Mills for BALL and a 2nd RD pick. naw!!!
    Let's get back on topic, shall we?




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    Nice work Lkrfan ...
    May not mean , but make those farmers sweat!

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    Nice work Lkrfan ...
    May not mean , but make those farmers sweat!
    Oh they sweating alright . Peep this le upstairs: Kawhi rehabbing at Dodger Stadium: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...72#post9385672

    They maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad AF right about now!

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    Isn't he from California?

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    Isn't he from California?
    Yep yep. But, he can go to a Dodger game, but he can't sit on the Spurs bench and cheer on/support his teammates during the playoffs? Kyrie did for the Celtics

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    It's commonly heard on the front office grapevine that Leonard is eyeing the Lakers as a free agent in 2019. One of the Western Conference executives noted it's no accident that the Lakers reportedly have shifted their free-agent plans to focus on the '19 class (which Leonard may headline), according to Shelburne and ESPN.com's Adrian Wojnarowski, as opposed to a quick fix this summer.

    "That's why [the Lakers] are spinning it into 'wait till next year,'" the executive said. "They know they can get Kawhi."

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...whi-make-peace

    I'd love this scenario. Get PG13 this summer, re-sign Randle, win 45-50 games, then poach 27 year old
    in 2019.

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    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...whi-make-peace

    I'd love this scenario. Get PG13 this summer, re-sign Randle, win 45-50 games, then poach 27 year old
    in 2019.
    Agreed. It's risky because maybe someone trades for him like OKC did ...but I take that risk. Unless Bron comes (doubt it) then you re-calibrate.

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    Agreed. It's risky because maybe someone trades for him like OKC did ...but I take that risk. Unless Bron comes (doubt it) then you re-calibrate.
    Pop would never flat out trade him to us. So I can see them trading him like Indy did with PG13 when he says he won't sign an extension.

    And before these farmers say, "there are 219 million reasons why he would" did not CP0 forego a similar extension by signing with the Rockets?

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    And before these farmers say, "there are 219 million reasons why he would" did not CP0 forego a similar extension by signing with the Rockets?
    Technically, he didn't "forego" it. He just deferred it for a year by opting into the last year of his current contract.

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    Pop would never flat out trade him to us. So I can see them trading him like Indy did with PG13 when he says he won't sign an extension.

    And before these farmers say, "there are 219 million reasons why he would" did not CP0 forego a similar extension by signing with the Rockets?
    Nope. CP3 changed the CBA basically as the president of the players union so that he could get his money (in fact more) by him getting moved to HOU

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    Nope. CP3 changed the CBA basically as the president of the players union so that he could get his money (in fact more) by him getting moved to HOU
    Kenyon Martin called this out on Cowherd's show ...saying some players, resent him for this ...but mo way Paul is the plaYer's Prez without LeBron's endorsement ...

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    Technically, he didn't "forego" it. He just deferred it for a year by opting into the last year of his current contract.
    He left the Clipps $200+ million dollar offer on the tablePERIOD. Like Kawhi with San Antonio, he could have made more by staying with the Clipps. He bounced anyway

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    Nope. CP3 changed the CBA basically as the president of the players union so that he could get his money (in fact more) by him getting moved to HOU
    How did he change the CBA? Not questioning you per se, but this is the 1st I'm hearing this angle.

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    How did he change the CBA? Not questioning you per se, but this is the 1st I'm hearing this angle.
    In the last CBA update (where it was revised to avoid a lockout) CP3 was the head of the players union. One of the big things to come out of this most recent update was the ability for players of CP3 age/time in the league being able to get bigger pay days at their age. Also, with the benefit of hindsight, this CP3 type deal should have been so obvious. We knew 2 things: 1) CP leaving LAC was a legit possiblity & 2) He abused his power as a players union president basically to get that new contract in his favor

    So knowing those two things, him leaving LAC would only happen via trade since we know he was damn well not going to give up that money. Not only that, TX should have been obvious since not only is getting the same deal he could get in LAC a big deal, but getting it in TX MEANS EVEN MORE MONEY FOR THAT SAME DEAL.

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    In the last CBA update (where it was revised to avoid a lockout) CP3 was the head of the players union. One of the big things to come out of this most recent update was the ability for players of CP3 age/time in the league being able to get bigger pay days at their age. Also, with the benefit of hindsight, this CP3 type deal should have been so obvious. We knew 2 things: 1) CP leaving LAC was a legit possiblity & 2) He abused his power as a players union president basically to get that new contract in his favor

    So knowing those two things, him leaving LAC would only happen via trade since we know he was damn well not going to give up that money. Not only that, TX should have been obvious since not only is getting the same deal he could get in LAC a big deal, but getting it in TX MEANS EVEN MORE MONEY FOR THAT SAME DEAL.
    Good

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    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...whi-make-peace

    I'd love this scenario. Get PG13 this summer, re-sign Randle, win 45-50 games, then poach 27 year old
    in 2019.
    With a $108 million cap for 2019-20 you'd have to do one of three things to land PG13 this summer and Leonard next:

    1. Find someone to take Deng's contract, perhaps offering Ingram as a sweetener to do it.
    2. Let Randle walk.
    3. Not pick up the team options on both Ingram and Ball.

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