NBA: Playoffs thread..

[Chris Fall]

Duncan did that to the Wallace brothers on one good ankle.

Not only disingenuous but factually incorrect. Disingenuous because neither Wallace was a primary scorer so the points comparison doesn’t shock nearly as much as Lowry and DeRozan since they are #1 and #2 scorer on Toronto. Still Duncan was short on points anyway of the two Wallaces. And while the secondary stats were close, they weren’t 1 or 2 rebounds or assists difference like with LeBron. And should you make a more apt stats comparison with blocks, it’s not close.

LeBron essentially matched the combined stats sheet of Toronto’s two main stars.

Duncan statistically put up stats in the neighborhood of a combined two role players.

Again, disingenuous and untrue. Tim Duncan is the greatest PF to ever play the game. You don’t need to lie on his behalf.

[LkrFan]

First, great that Duncan is the measurement of greatness.

Second, Kobe is 4-3:
98 - N/A Spurs lost in 2nd round
99 - Lost
00 - N/A Spurs lost in 1st round because Duncan was hurt
01 - Won
02 - Won
03 - Lost
04 - Won
05 - N/A Lakers missed playoffs
06 - N/A Lakers lost in 1st rund
07 - N/A Lakers lost in 1st rund
08 - Won
09 - N/A Spurs lost in 1st rund
10 - N/A Spurs lost in 2nd round
11 - N/A Spurs lost in 1st rund
12 - N/A Lakers lost in 2nd round
13 - Lost Torn Achilles to avoid the sweep
14 - N/A Lakers missed playoffs

Third, the Lakers missed two playffs during this time

Kobe didn't play in 2013 playoffs numbnuts. -20 points for being a dumbass. My point stands. Kobe is 4-2 vs Jim H2H when they both played. That's it and that's allPERIOD.

[ambchang]

Not only disingenuous but factually incorrect. Disingenuous because neither Wallace was a primary scorer so the points comparison doesn’t shock nearly as much as Lowry and DeRozan since they are #1 and #2 scorer on Toronto. Still Duncan was short on points anyway of the two Wallaces. And while the secondary stats were close, they weren’t 1 or 2 rebounds or assists difference like with LeBron. And should you make a more apt stats comparison with blocks, it’s not close.

LeBron essentially matched the combined stats sheet of Toronto’s two main stars.

Duncan statistically put up stats in the neighborhood of a combined two role players.

Again, disingenuous and untrue. Tim Duncan is the greatest PF to ever play the game. You don’t need to lie on his behalf.

If I didn’t know any better the Wallace brothers were the main defensive engines of the pistons.

[ambchang]

Kobe didn't play in 2013 playoffs numbnuts. -20 points for being a dumbass. My point stands. Kobe is 4-2 vs Jim H2H when they both played. That's it and that's allPERIOD.

tearing an Achilles to avoid playing against duncan.
taking pride in missing the playoffs.
team accomplishments to justify

[LkrFan]

tearing an Achilles to avoid playing against duncan.
taking pride in missing the playoffs.
team accomplishments to justify

How old is your sister and is she an Asian Thot tbh?

[ambchang]

How old is your sister and is she an Asian Thot tbh?

I don’t have a sister but if I did she’d be your cenobyte.

[LkrFan]

I don’t have a sister but if I did she’d be your cenobyte.

You are such a gt

[dfens]

No killa kyrie = no rang, that much becomes apparent when kevin scrub is your 2nd option

you sound black tbh.

[spurraider21]

you sound black tbh.

he certainly tries to

[Chris Fall]

If I didn’t know any better the Wallace brothers were the main defensive engines of the pistons.

Duncan 144 points, 54-129 FG 41.9%, 99 rebounds, 15 assists, 15 blocks
Wallacex2 151 points, 68-138 FG 49.3%, 111 rebounds, 20 assists, 38 blocks

LeBron 136 points, 57-103 FG 55.3%, 33 rebounds, 45 assists
Lowry/DeRozan 138 points, 53-108 FG 49.1%, 30 rebounds, 46 assists

The defensive difference was there. Each Wallace individually had more blocks than Duncan. And despite neither being a primary scorer, the combined Wallace pair outscored Duncan and were more efficient doing so.

LeBron virtually paced the combined stats of Lowry and DeRozan while doing it very efficiently, and the scoring is what stands out because Lowry and DeRozan are the #1 and #2 scorers on Toronto, not the third and fifth best scorers like the Wallaces. There was really little reason to mention Duncan’s 2005 performance compared to Wallace and Wallace as it relates to what LeBron just did. With Duncan, it was “in the neighborhood” statistically. LeBron was almost exactly the same as the combined two scoring Raptor stars.

[ambchang]

Duncan 144 points, 54-129 FG 41.9%, 99 rebounds, 15 assists, 15 blocks
Wallacex2 151 points, 68-138 FG 49.3%, 111 rebounds, 20 assists, 38 blocks

LeBron 136 points, 57-103 FG 55.3%, 33 rebounds, 45 assists
Lowry/DeRozan 138 points, 53-108 FG 49.1%, 30 rebounds, 46 assists

The defensive difference was there. Each Wallace individually had more blocks than Duncan. And despite neither being a primary scorer, the combined Wallace pair outscored Duncan and were more efficient doing so.

LeBron virtually paced the combined stats of Lowry and DeRozan while doing it very efficiently, and the scoring is what stands out because Lowry and DeRozan are the #1 and #2 scorers on Toronto, not the third and fifth best scorers like the Wallaces. There was really little reason to mention Duncan’s 2005 performance compared to Wallace and Wallace as it relates to what LeBron just did. With Duncan, it was “in the neighborhood” statistically. LeBron was almost exactly the same as the combined two scoring Raptor stars.

Sure, but Lebron wasn't guarded by two of the best defensive players in the league either.

The scoring between Duncan and Wallace were very close, but that part that stood out were the rebounds. Ben Wallace was 2nd in the league in RPG that year, and even with another defensive big men in the league next to him in Rasheed, Duncan was close to the total rebounds of the two in a 7 game series. What the Wallace brothers were to rebounding was what DeRozan and Lowry were to scoring. That was my point.

[Chillen]

Who would have thunk it, Cavs the first team in NBA playoffs to a conference final.

[Neo.]

Sure, but Lebron wasn't guarded by two of the best defensive players in the league either.

The scoring between Duncan and Wallace were very close, but that part that stood out were the rebounds. Ben Wallace was 2nd in the league in RPG that year, and even with another defensive big men in the league next to him in Rasheed, Duncan was close to the total rebounds of the two in a 7 game series. What the Wallace brothers were to rebounding was what DeRozan and Lowry were to scoring. That was my point.

hmm

difference of 2 points = difference of 12 rebounds

2 = 12?

nice math bro

[HarlemHeat37]

Wow, what a strange choice of comparison..one of Duncan's worst series of his career can't get out of that hole..

[Arcadian]

Try comparing 2003 Duncan's stats to Kenyon Kartin and Richard Jefferson

[TDfan2007]

Wow, what a strange choice of comparison..one of Duncan's worst series of his career can't get out of that hole..

A subpar series, but still led the team in points, rebounds, and blocks, and also came up big in the series-deciding game. That Frontline of Detroit was devastating defensively, and maybe one of the best ever His 2001 and 2004 series vs LA comes to mind as worse.

Otherwise, I agree. LeBron was WAY more dominant in this series than Timmy in the finals. Very weird and unnecessary comparison

[Budkin]

Rockets just ing around... now losing.

[daslicer]

A subpar series, but still led the team in points, rebounds, and blocks, and also came up big in the series-deciding game. That Frontline of Detroit was devastating defensively, and maybe one of the best ever His 2001 and 2004 series vs LA comes to mind as worse.

Otherwise, I agree. LeBron was WAY more dominant in this series than Timmy in the finals. Very weird and unnecessary comparison

Also factor in that Duncan played with two bum ankles in that series but I agree with your post.

[Budkin]

21-6 Utah run

[gambit1990]

sucks for mitc .

[RD2191]

Healthy jazz beat the roxs imo tbh

[Killakobe81]

sucks for mitc .

what sucks?

[Pelicans78]

what sucks?

He got injured.

[Robz4000]

What happened to Mitc ?

[DMC]

Probably tore a hamstring