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"Kawhi and LBJ going to Philly."
http://news4sanantonio.com/sports/ex...-leonard-happy
David Griffen, ex Cavs gm on bill Simmons podcast:
My intention wasn’t necessarily to say L.A. made the most sense (as a landing spot for LeBron James), just that it’s as likely as anything else. San Antonio could be as likely as anything else. Why couldn’t San Antonio find a way to clear the space to bring LeBron in to make Kawhi happy? LeBron thinks Pop is an absolute icon. That’s an outcome that could happen as well. And if someone could pull that off, it’s Pop. For me, when I look at it, and you’re making the decision to do this, you have to start, ‘This is the Spurs.’ If this was any other organization, I would believe all the fire starter nonsense about he has to leave. I don’t think you have to do anything. Pop has the level of control and power to say, ‘No, I’m not trading Kawhi Leonard.’ If you’re going to not do that, then you’ve going to need to put him in a position to dictate outcomes, so maybe you have to change the pieces around him. I think that’s more likely than they just cave and move the guy.”
"Kawhi and LBJ going to Philly."
According to Dunc'd On podcast. Lebron is going to make slightly more than what the max would be so instead of opting out and signing elsewhere, it makes more sense for him to pull a CP3 so his next team doesn't give up the farm to get him.
Mills, Gasol, and 1st rounder would technically work for Lebron. Parker, Green, Gay, Anderson, Bertans, could all be re-signed and
Murray, Lebron, Leonard, Gay, LMA
Parker, Green, Manu, Anderson, C
I'd ing faint
Kawhi ain't going anywhere tbh. He know hes about to sign the supermax deal and wasn't gonna risk playing this past year. be back fully healthy next year and were gonna get revenge on the Warriors.
Maybe, but there are a few things to consider; but It sounds like they are definitely angling for an all-star wing and whether it be Lebron, PG13 or Kawhi. PG sounds like he is L.A. bound or back to OKC, Lebron may head out west, possibly to join PG in L.A., leaving Kawhi as their best shot at acquiring one of three.
1. Spurs simply could not trade him, giving the Spurs leverage in trade negotiations.
2. Boston's success without Hayward and Irving plus how their young players have played-they may not be interested in making a move, if they stand pat with Brown, Tatum, Harward, Irving, and Horford that team is also certainly better than Philly next year and probably going forward (easy to forget that Boston still has 5 1st rounders in the next two drafts too)
3. If Spurs were to consider moving him, then it would probably be to a team in the East, making Philly the most likely trade partner.
4. I think that is almost exactly the asking price, it's up to Philly to counter, balk, or agree to the terms.
-Fultz was obviously the number 1 pick but missed most of the year with a mysterious shoulder injury and his shot has been jacked ever since, there's no guarantee that he'll ever be the shooter that he was, lowering his value, which is how the Spurs would probably try and spin in in negotiations.
Covington-valuable player on a really valuable contract but expendable (also if Mills included in the deal he would contract would be needed to make the $ match up)
10th pick- already a young team in need of experience, moving a lottery pick probably isn't ideal but it probably wouldn't be a hang up in a possible deal.
Saric-Probably the biggest sticking point, imagine the Spurs highly value him due to his age (barely 24) and skill set but the 10th, Covington and Fultz aren't nearly enough and Philly doesn't have a subs ute to offer up, in his place.
Parsekniks-7'2 mobile center, who could potentially be a stretch 5 in the NBA, switch and protect the rim. Was the 25th pick in last years draft and was stashed. Would be a good throw in to a potential deal.
So he missed 78 games to not risk getting the Supermax, thus causing the Spurs to reconsider giving him the supermax and even possibly trading him-making him inelible for the supermax. If that was his plan then it was pretty stupid tbh.
He'll get offered the supermax if he's healthy and he'll take it.
But it won’t be with the Spurs.
It’s sad and funny at the same time how fast the media is turning on Pop.
Nah, that’s bare bones. Maybe had Fultz played this season (ala Tatum) then you’d be right but his lack of body of work helps the spurs here.
They also turned on Phil Jackson a few years ago which I never thought could happen.
I'd rather have Bolden than Pasceniks.
I think Parsecniks has a more realistic chance of being a starting caliber player in the NBA. Bolden is interesting though too
Did Bolden play much this season? If he did, was he any good? Did he show any flashes of potential?
I think they ask for both, and settle for one plus one of the Sixers many 2nd round picks this draft.
No one else can give it to him. I think that both his uncle, and this football agent he hired may not have even known that.
Exactly
Well. I'm sure the Spurs already rejected the Super Max with him and his uncle. Knowing Kawhi's weird quad injury it was obvious he wasn't going to get it this offseason anyway. I'm not sure about this degenerative thing but it appears the Spurs know its something he is going to have to manage and it may be that he peaked physically last year and they expected him to understand that a supermax would have severely limited there chances of competing with the Warriors anyway. All signs point to a bitter stand off contractually while trying to get healthy. Kawhi's camp has a lot of leverage. They can literally sit and make 20mil/yr and then bolt for LA where loads of endorsements wait as well as there hometown advantage. sigh* more spinning our heads waiting to see what happens.
His endorsement pool is overrated. He was a Finals MVP, for 's sake, and Jordan Brand wouldn't give him more than $5M. He's just not very personable, or marketable, and that doesn't change with what city he's in. Social media presence is the new 'large market', and he has none.
If he sits out another year, and then suddenly goes to LA and is healthy, I think the Spurs have a case to sue him to recoup that $40M he stole while faking an injury.
I still think it's very naive to think he doesn't get more endorsement money in LA or NY. The Lakers competing and making more playoff games brings in so much more money for them that I'm sure they will be glad to set up back door endorsements for him. As far as his shoe deal, check this article out. (https://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/nb...tml/?a=viewall) I think Jordan is just cheap which harkens back to his uncle not being a business savvy as he may think but still players wanting bigger markets and more money is nothing new. I think all this surprised us because Kawhi seemed to fit the low key organization so well. About the whole faking injury yea I suppose that could be in their back pocket but near the bottom of cir stances the Spurs would want.
I don't see how the Spurs have much option other than to trade him. Relationship is broken. His health hasn't been recovered fully and may not ever be back. They would be foolish to give a broken player a Supermax contract, and the Spurs office never makes a bad contract with a player, right? He would walk at the end of next season. Have to trade him.
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