When Parker entered his prime Duncan left his prime. I said earlier Duncan never played with a superstar during his prime.
You're being naive and over rating D'Antoni and Paul's ability to be effective when it matters most if you thought this was going to be a legitimate series. The Rockets, and their fans, should feel very accomplished to get this far and even prouder if they win 2 games in this formality of a series.
"Lolckets"? You've done better work. The Rockets name has far more satirical potential...
Manu was not a superstar. From '05-'09 he only made one all-nba team and that was all-nba third team in '08. A superstar easily makes the all-nba team every year and is on the first or second team. I will say this he had a superstar run during the '05 playoffs but outside of that playoff run he wasn't ever really dominant. Spurs were a very good team but they were not a super team. Imagine if Duncan was paired up with prime Wade from '05-'09 that would have cons uted as a super team with Duncan-Wade being the superstars and Parker being the all-star.
I have said before a better idea of how great the Warriors are imagine if Duncan teamed up with Kobe-Shaq. The Lakers would have had the best PF in the league, best center, and best SG. Warriors have with Durant the second best SF, Curry the best PG, Klay is arguably the second best SG in the league after Harden. Spurs never had a Warriors type of set up. Tim was the best PF, but I can't recall a time in Tim's prime where Manu was the second best SG along with Parker being the second best PG in the league.
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its not really lol rockets, imo. the warriors are just historically stacked
This is absolutely true. That change you mention in the game is really the story of the decade. And I don't think it has made their product better or the game more interesting/entertaining.
No, it's lol rockets. Spurs took a game, and were in two more, WITHOUT Kawhi.
lol rockets lol Mike Dan Tony
I wonder how much of a meltdown there is over at clutchfans. Not enough to actually go there and check, but still...
the spurs didnt face curry
and it's been one game. we were blown the f out in game 1
It is lol rockets in context of SA fans getting so mad CP3 was not a Spur and Rocket fans worshiping everything Rockets do only to put up literally no resistance. It’s early, but their style of play with Harden/CP is not well suited vs GS. GS defends PnR/Iso better than anyone and HOU has zero post/inside threat.
CP3 is due MASSIVE money and if they flame out after the season they had? How do you commit that money to those players?
Golden state didn’t face Kawhi. SA was on the road for GM1 as well.
Forget about the talk of HOU being better than GS with this team, I don’t think they would have been better than SA with Kawhi even with TP/Manu aging, Danny regressing & a slew of other issues.
no doubt. we saw what a difference maker kawhi was last year... and just how putrid our offense looked after he went out (and how LMA dependent we were this year)
I said this before the series started but HOU does not appear to be a good match up, despite CP3/Harden doing great this year. But that deal hinges on them making progress vs GS and it appears they might have made very little progress. IF (it’s still super early and we saw Harden drop 40+ already) they flame out in 5 or less?
That will make things very tricky for them considering CP’s age and money due. You can’t fault them for swinging obviously and they are damn good. But this will be judged on their ability to compete with GS.
If the Warriors end up beating the Rockets in 4 or 5, it won't be a sign that the Spurs are as good or better than the Rockets or would have necessarily performed better with Leonard against the Warriors, it'll be a sign that the Warriors antenna was up against the Rockets (because of the hype of them being the perceived first true test since they signed Durant), while they were in cruise control against the Spurs.
Considering the Rockets have their full attention, they'd do well to get this to 6. The interesting thing will be, for an older team, without much flexibility, if they're not within' striking distance now, is giving Paul a 4 year max the given it's perceived to be? Would they try to recruit James to take his place first? Would Paul be offended enough to leave if they tried, failed and circled back?
Disagree. I don’t think it’s easy to say at all that HOU would have even had the shot at GS this year with Kawhi healthy even with all the flaws in SA’s roster.
Has nothing to do with GS and everything to do with how the HOU move for CP3 was/is viewed and will be judged. I also think the Warriors antenna would be fully up vs a SA team that made it back to the WCF again even if the Rockets hype was not attached. Between the narrative of them being dirty and SA whopping up on them in that first road game, it would have been great.
GS got lucky vs this depleted SA team to be quite honest. Whether you want to call it coasting or what ever LMA gave them issues and if SA’s shooters didn’t crap the bed, SA would have won 2 games.
They more than likely would have. They should have beaten the Spurs last season and added a superstar while the Spurs more or less stayed the same.
I don't. The Warriors, like most everyone, view the Spurs personnel and style as archaic and don't see them as any sort of threat.
Other than game 1, when they wanted to reassert their dominance, they were clearly in cruise control throughout . . . and the Spurs shooters, for the most part, couldn't shoot all season.
Not to get into it, but I did the math. If SA just shot their season average (so not asking them to step up, just shoot at the level they shot all season) they win another game. Not even the tough one’s either. Even if they just shot their average on the uncontested ones alone (which there were a lot of), that swings another game.
If not from January 1st on, then from the All-Star break on, their already mediocre shooting seemingly fell off a cliff.
That's basketball though. How many times could someone say that or something similar? The reality is, another game wouldn't have made any difference. Either way, they were still in cruise control. If they cared enough to sweep the Spurs, they would have.
It’s context with regards to HOU. SA is built better, due to LMA, than HOU is to beat GS. With Kawhi and no Curry, SA absolutely beats GS this year. But with Curry it would not be as likely although I suspect SA would fare better than HOU will end up.
Probably not, but even if they were, it wouldn't matter. Like everyone else, they're both running a race they can't win.
The Spurs have a whopping 5 rotation players who are unplayable vs elite teams. Gasol, Mills and Parker defensively and Anderson and Murray offensively.
that's the truth... lol
People fall for this every time he puts a team out on the floor. They blow out some bad teams, beat a few good teams in the RS, and suddenly, they're 'contenders'. You cannot win a championship if you play indifferent defense. They'll always run into that better, two way team at some point in the playoffs.
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